Re: flushEvents("system")

2014-03-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/21/14, 6:08 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: If I'm remembering right, flushEvents("system") called flushEvents() on Mac OS, which in turn removed low-level events from the OS event queue (as opposed to the engine's queue) - mouse, keyboard, disk-insert. I'm not sure what, if anything, it did

Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I think that what you must mean by, "wrong" is, "presently inconvenient to > me", Actually, I mean it as in, "driving on the left side of the road is wrong" (unless you're in Britain, or . . . ) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-84

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread PystCat
One of my two favorite beers... Any ice cold Belgian beer and Guiness. Nothing else will do. > On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:09 PM, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM, PystCat wrote: >> >> STOP, STOP! Do you know how much it hurts to snort Tea through your >> nose..? :-P >

Re: before vs on in behavior scripts

2014-03-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:40 AM, BNig wrote: > may I humbly suggest to a physics major to reconsider the spelling of > "Boltman"? > remembering and successfully typing with two numb fingers are separate matters :) It's over half my practice, and I type "bankruptcy" incorrectly 80% of the time.

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > But Apple of late has not blown my skirt up either. Soldering memory to > the motherboard?? And why??? Well they will cite cost of production, but > how curious that we can no longer take advantage of the price match > guarantee on a memory up

Request to makers of add-ons

2014-03-21 Thread James Hale
Hi, I really enjoy looking at software and appreciating the work the authors put in to their products. The same goes for all the helpful add-ons that are written for Livecode. I have quite a few and really appreciate their utility. But I have one request for authors of add-ons that require the ins

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM, PystCat wrote: > STOP, STOP! Do you know how much it hurts to snort Tea through your > nose..? :-P > Another reason drink beer instead (he says sipping on a belgian pale) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Fraser Gordon wrote: > If I'm not careful, we might end up with Tex re-implemented inside the > LiveCode engine. > If this would let me manipulate pdf in livecode, I'd be all for it. At the moment, I need to have a latex installation to run the pdf tools (jar). A

[ANN] Installer Maker 1.8.4

2014-03-21 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hello, I have updated Installer Maker. In this version, you can now choose the root of the hard disk as the destination of files, the routine that adds aliases to the OSX dock has been improved and a few small interface improvements have been applied. This update applies to both the standalon

RE: mobile sensor reading

2014-03-21 Thread Ralph DiMola
-Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Devin Asay Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 6:40 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: mobile sensor reading Has anyone successfully used the mobileSensorReading() function? I have tried it both in

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Vaughn - just a quick note to say I've done what I said I would and have watched your video and sent you my feedback Kind regards Dave - "Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them." - William Shakespeare & Hugh Senior -- View this message in cont

Re: mobile sensor reading

2014-03-21 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Devin, It depends... I wrote something about it at http://qery.us/45m -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB,

Re: flushEvents("system")

2014-03-21 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 3:56 PM -0500 3/21/2014, J. Landman Gay wrote: The dictionary says flushEvents("system") ignores operating system events. Does anyone know which events those might be? If I'm remembering right, flushEvents("system") called flushEvents() on Mac OS, which in turn removed low-level events fro

mobile sensor reading

2014-03-21 Thread Devin Asay
Has anyone successfully used the mobileSensorReading() function? I have tried it both in the simulator and on devices but it doesn't seem to report the expected sensor data. (I have been able to get sensor data using mobileStartTrackingSensor in conjunction with the sensor messages, but no luck

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 21:03, Richmond wrote: > By the way; Korean (among other writing systems) seems to have been > overlooked: it is often written vertically: i.e. Top to Bottom, Right > to Left. Not overlooked so much as not really possible to retro-fit into the current implementation of fields (unlike

Re: [Waaaaay OT] [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 23:05, PystCat wrote: I would try it but... I really dislike the taste of coffee... I like the smell of it but can't take the taste. Now... I've been told I make the best coffee in the world, so I proudly made it all the time for her enjoyment and my delight to see her smile. Loo

Re: Do you miss the 'box' filter?

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 22:57, Curry Kenworthy wrote: Richmond wrote: > Best thing to do would be to lob me a screenshot off list??? Screenshots and live demo in the test stack here in the report: Best wishes, Curry K. Yup: that's a dud in 6.6 on Linu

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 22:52, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 21/03/2014 20:25, Peter Haworth wrote: Also, the new cursorMovement and textDirection properties do not have dictionary entries. They are not documented because RTL is still an experimental feature and they will almost certainly change before the final

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread PystCat
I would try it but... I really dislike the taste of coffee... I like the smell of it but can't take the taste. Now... I've been told I make the best coffee in the world, so I proudly made it all the time for her enjoyment and my delight to see her smile. Looking back on it, it might have been

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Peter Haworth
Bernd, This all happened while using 7.0, but thanks for the heads up. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, BNig wrote: > Hi Pete, >

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Fraser, not a big issue, just wanted to be sure you are aware. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Fraser Gordon wrote: > On 2

Re: Do you miss the 'box' filter?

2014-03-21 Thread Curry Kenworthy
Richmond wrote: > Best thing to do would be to lob me a screenshot off list??? Screenshots and live demo in the test stack here in the report: Best wishes, Curry K. ___ use-livecode mailing list use

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 20:42, BNig wrote: > I noticed that plug-ins in 5.5 format save in 7.0 format when opened in 7.0 > and the plug-in is saved. > This happens inspite of the the preference to save in legacy format. That definitely looks like a bug to me - the intention was that anything that was opene

flushEvents("system")

2014-03-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
The dictionary says flushEvents("system") ignores operating system events. Does anyone know which events those might be? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 20:25, Peter Haworth wrote: > Also, the new cursorMovement and textDirection properties do not have > dictionary entries. They are not documented because RTL is still an experimental feature and they will almost certainly change before the final release - we don't want anyone relying

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 22:47, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 21/03/2014 19:35, Richmond wrote: Am I to assume that either: 1. The standalones they produce are duds? or 2. The standalones use earlier recensions of the engine The changes that cause incompatibilities with MacOS X 10.5 are part of 6.7, which is s

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 19:35, Richmond wrote: > Am I to assume that either: > > 1. The standalones they produce are duds? > > or > > 2. The standalones use earlier recensions of the engine The changes that cause incompatibilities with MacOS X 10.5 are part of 6.7, which is still under development and isn't

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread BNig
Hi Pete, I noticed that plug-ins in 5.5 format save in 7.0 format when opened in 7.0 and the plug-in is saved. This happens inspite of the the preference to save in legacy format. Might that be a problem for you? It certainly is if you try out 7.0 and use a plug-in and then use 6.x and the plu

Re: Do you miss the 'box' filter?

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 22:27, Curry Kenworthy wrote: Richmond wrote: I just made a stack contain a field containing the text "cheese cheese cheese" and set the textStyle of the middle "cheese" to 'Box" in 6.6. 'stable' and everything worked as it should. Thanks! This is a graphic effect filter rather

Re: Do you miss the 'box' filter?

2014-03-21 Thread Curry Kenworthy
Richmond wrote: I just made a stack contain a field containing the text "cheese cheese cheese" and set the textStyle of the middle "cheese" to 'Box" in 6.6. 'stable' and everything worked as it should. Thanks! This is a graphic effect filter rather than a text style. Try an outerglow, or bet

7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Peter Haworth
Two issues so far, all while going through the compile stage at startup which I assume is necessary for the new file format. On starting up on of my plugins got an error on put arrayDecode(it) into tVar Got the error "visual: not a visual name" with Hint: set to "fast" on the following: show gr

LC Dictionary Pro app for users of LC

2014-03-21 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi all I just had a email question about the link for the app I developed for the LiveCode Dictionary improved features. The link below is for the YouTube intro for this app. I wanted to get feedback before it goes live in the near future. If you want to comment or add your suggestions for this ap

Re: Do you miss the 'box' filter?

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 21:33, Curry Kenworthy wrote: I love the box filter for graphic effects. It makes wonderful outlines around text or graphics. It also runs quickly on low end hardware. It's been gone since LC 6.5, I believe. Is anyone else missing it as much as I am? Here's the report:

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
Interestingly enough, both 6.6 and 7 allow one to build Mac PPC and Mac Universal standalones. Currently I have no way of testing them: my 2 currently available PPC Macs being divided between my G3 iMac running Mac OS 9.2.2 (a.k.a.'Classic') and my MacMini running Xubuntu 12,04 PPC. Am I to

Re: package maker

2014-03-21 Thread Alain Vezina
Hi All, I just want too tell anybody who doesn’t want to have problem with entitlements list, sign Mac app and package it that App Wrapper from Ohanaware is a very good choice. It is easy to use, rapid and the step by step documentation is very helpful. Three advices to use this application 1.

Do you miss the 'box' filter?

2014-03-21 Thread Curry Kenworthy
I love the box filter for graphic effects. It makes wonderful outlines around text or graphics. It also runs quickly on low end hardware. It's been gone since LC 6.5, I believe. Is anyone else missing it as much as I am? Here's the report: B

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 20:46, PystCat wrote: STOP, STOP! Do you know how much it hurts to snort Tea through your nose..? :-P You really ought to try it with badly filtered coffee sometime; the grounds do wonders to your nasal membranes :-P On Mar 21, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Richmond wrote: On 21/03/14

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Vaughn - I've just checked back through this thread and can't find your youtube link - post it again and I'll have a look (and I promise I'll give you feedback...) Dave Vaughn Clement wrote > I provided a YouTube video for the app I wrote for the LC Dictionary Pro > for LC users. I did not ge

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread PystCat
STOP, STOP! Do you know how much it hurts to snort Tea through your nose..? :-P > On Mar 21, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Richmond wrote: > >> On 21/03/14 20:16, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: >> I'm really glad we're having this very lengthy discussion about email >> procedure. It's helping me a

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-21 Thread Curry Kenworthy
Fraser wrote: That's the reason behind most of the functions we've marked as deprecated in 7.0 - upgrading them to support Unicode would break existing stacks in subtle ways Geoff wrote: That's the Microsoft way to handle this. The Apple way would simply be to do the right thing -- if you wan

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 20:16, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I'm really glad we're having this very lengthy discussion about email procedure. It's helping me a lot with my programming. LOL! Mind you, it could be pointed out that it was your choice to read the thread. Maybe I should insert a secon

Re: P.S. Why is there no minimize button on the Project Browser?

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
On 21/03/14 19:31, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Am I missing something again? I can see no way to minimize the Project Browser, which reduces its usefullness a great deal. Which platform are you on? On Linux, at least, there are, in the top, right-hand corner 3 'things': '-' this make

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi All I provided a YouTube video for the app I wrote for the LC Dictionary Pro for LC users. I did not get 1 comment or question on the video. Did anyone view the video? Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread larry
I'm really glad we're having this very lengthy discussion about email procedure. It's helping me a lot with my programming. - Original Message - From: "Peter M. Brigham" To: "How to use LiveCode" Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release On

Re: [OT][[TL/DR] 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Mar 21, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Bob Sneidar wrote: > > > I think that what you must mean by, “wrong” is, “presently > > inconvenient to me”, but as Richmond pointed out, what is > > inconvenient for one may be standard operating procedure for > > another. I don’t want to be

P.S. Why is there no minimize button on the Project Browser?

2014-03-21 Thread larry
Am I missing something again? I can see no way to minimize the Project Browser, which reduces its usefullness a great deal. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subsc

Re: Deja Vu

2014-03-21 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob Sneidar writes: > Further, when I set a breakpoint and try to catch the bugger in > the act of executing twice, IT DOES NOT DO IT! Only when I am running does it pop twice and it does so every time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenbug -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com __

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread larry
You've done it again Jacqueline! The simplest answer. I just never realized until you explained that the Application Browser highlights the selected objects. Thanks to all of you who helped me understand. Larry - Original Message - From: "J. Landman Gay" To: "How to use LiveCode"

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread Peter Haworth
lcStackBrowser highlights all selected objects in it's display, assuming that the card they are on is expanded. You can also select the control's in lcStackBrowser. However they are selected, the pop up menu action to group them includes a count of how many control's are to be grouped. Pete lcSQ

Inserting Text, photo or video into a circle ?

2014-03-21 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I recently asked for help on displaying video clips in a circle. Scott Rossi put me on the right track, and I managed to get a stack up and running. Thanks Scott ! If anybody is interested, you can find the stack at : http://www.nugent.fr/Round1.htm I hope you

Re: Deja Vu

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Okay so the solution is send in time. This apparently allows the engine to complete the closing of the field and then set the focus on the next field. Simply moving the closeField handler out of the field and into the card script did not do the trick. I am curious however, to know what gets exec

Re: Deja Vu

2014-03-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Richard, I have a field with only the closeField handler and an > answer dialog. Tabbing out of the field after editing pops the > dialog, and any answer to the dialog returns the focus to the field, > even if I pass closeField! That can’t be the desired behavior. Also, > if

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/21/14, 9:52 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The Project Browser shows all currently-selected objects. Once you select objects, those are highlighted there before subsequently grouping. And the Application Browser does the same. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com

Re: Deja Vu

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Richard, I have a field with only the closeField handler and an answer dialog. Tabbing out of the field after editing pops the dialog, and any answer to the dialog returns the focus to the field, even if I pass closeField! That can’t be the desired behavior. Also, if you edit the field, then cli

Re: Deja Vu

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Kay, I’ll give your solution a try. Richard, I will attempt to do that. Bob On Mar 20, 2014, at 23:08 , Kay C Lan wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Bob Sneidar > wrote: > >> I know this has come up in the past, because I remember the poor fellow >> who was struggling with it. >> >>

Re: Deja Vu

2014-03-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I have a field with a closeField handler. In the handler there is > an answer dialog command which the user must respond to. The problem > is that the answer dialog pops twice! I have verified by way of > search that the ONLY closeField handler in this stack is the one in > t

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Vaughn Clement wrote: First the objects on the screen will have the selection highlights appear when you select them to be apart of a group. On the edit menu you can use the Select Grouped Controls and then you can click to add the objects you want to add to the group. If you group the selected i

[OT][[TL/DR] Re: 6.6 RC2 Release

2014-03-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I think that what you must mean by, “wrong” is, “presently > inconvenient to me”, but as Richmond pointed out, what is > inconvenient for one may be standard operating procedure for > another. I don’t want to belabor the point, but if some committee > of persons sat around a

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Apple vs Microsoft anyone? I’m not a huge Microsoft fan, but I have to work with it everyday as part of my job, so I’ve learned to live with it. But Apple of late has not blown my skirt up either. Soldering memory to the motherboard?? And why??? Well they will cite cost of production, but how

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Richard First the objects on the screen will have the selection highlights appear when you select them to be apart of a group. On the edit menu you can use the Select Grouped Controls and then you can click to add the objects you want to add to the group. If you group the selected items, then d

Re: Rally the troops Part 2 - aka Wish List Part 1

2014-03-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
larry wrote: Hello Richard, Thanks for the info, but it seems you missed my point. The Project Browser does NOT tell me BEFORE I group something what is going to be grouped. At least not that I can figure it out. I want something to show me what the grouping will be BEFORE I group it. The P

Re: A weird bug/occurrence

2014-03-21 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Guglielmo Braguglia < guglie...@braguglia.ch> wrote: > have you a "fusion" drive on your Mac ? I don't think so -- macbook pro w/retina display, straight SSD. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-21 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Fraser Gordon wrote: > That's the reason behind most of the functions we've marked as deprecated > in 7.0 - upgrading them to support Unicode would break existing stacks in > subtle ways (e.g. numToChar - somebody, somewhere, might be depending on > the fact that i

Re: before vs on in behavior scripts

2014-03-21 Thread BNig
Dear Dr. Hauking, and while you are at reconsidering spelling you might want to have a look at "Plank" also. Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/before-vs-on-in-behavior-scripts-tp4677166p4677347.html Sent from the Revolution - U

Re: before vs on in behavior scripts

2014-03-21 Thread BNig
Dr. Hawkins wrote > This is a good time to point out where quantum physics was developed . . . > > You didn't find Professors Einstein, Plank, Boltman, etc. in their > offices, > but in the bierhalls. > > And, speaking as a physics major, noone would have come up with that stuff > sober . . . ma

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Warren Samples
On 03/21/2014 04:26 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: No, its broke. ... Maybe there is something else dependency? Since it's worked for others, it might not be correct to say "it's broke". There must be some definable reason it's not working on your system and a dependency issue sounds like the m

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Richmond
I have extended my report with attempts on Xubuntu 12.04 LTS. http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19658&p=99712#p99712 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and m

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21 Mar 2014, at 01:36, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Thanks. Most of that makes sense, but why not alias the deprecated > uni* functions to text* functions rather than just having them return > the wrong thing? UniEncode would alias to textDecode and uniDecode to textEncode as the closest equivale

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Martin Baxter
On 20/03/14 20:13, Warren Samples wrote: > On 03/20/2014 01:45 PM, Richmond wrote: >> I am sorry to say that the middle button: "You Only" does not >> work as it stops with a windows that states this: >> >> "The installer will automatically continue when these conflicting >> applications are closed

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Peter Alcibiades
No, its broke. Logged in as root, navigated to the download, started from the file manager, and I get the same thing, blank window with buttons with no text in them, and it don't work. Running it in a terminal gives no information. I do have mulitarch latest version (debian has dropped ia32 as s

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Peter Alcibiades
No, its broken. Update simply doesn't work. I'll download and try to install from scratch. This is: su to root, cd to /opt/runrev/release-in-question ./livedodexxx Then run the updater and quit LC as soon as downloading starts. The window loses its content and there is no update. Peter