Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.5.0 DP1 (Benjamin Beaumont)

2013-09-12 Thread Michael Kristensen
Will the new Resolution Independence give us zoom facilities? Mic ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/list

Re: Trying a custom handler for several math fields

2013-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/13 9:17 PM, Vaughn Clement wrote: 1 Issue: on the card the different sets of field controls would only update within the set of fields in the script. If a user edited one of the fields that set would update. What I needed was to have all the fields update regardless of what set they belo

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/09/2013, at 3:53 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Monte- > > Thursday, September 12, 2013, 5:34:28 PM, you wrote: > >> I hadn't thought about supporting multiple script editors yet. >> How does one tell if GLX is the user's current choice of script >> editor? > > I suppose you could check to see

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Monte- Thursday, September 12, 2013, 5:34:28 PM, you wrote: > I hadn't thought about supporting multiple script editors yet. > How does one tell if GLX is the user's current choice of script > editor? I suppose you could check to see if GLX2 is in the frontscripts. function GLX2IsActive loc

Re: Trying a custom handler for several math fields

2013-09-12 Thread stephen barncard
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Vaughn Clement wrote: > The current database I use is FileMaker Advanced and it is so well yes but Filemaker can be limiting as it is so easy to use the pre-fab scripting segments...with built in bumpers... LC is the wide open spaces of "do anything". Barncar

touchscreen interactivity basics

2013-09-12 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Hello. I'm planning a quiz-type stack that'll be displaying on a SMART interactive whiteboard or a Windows 8 laptop's touchscreen. I've already tested with the usual mouse related commands such as mouseUp, mouseDown and such. But I'd like to include touch-and-drag, touch-and-throw, mabe even mult

Re: Trying a custom handler for several math fields

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Craig Actually I am very determined to get to a mastery of LC. I understand it takes time. BUT, after 35 plus years working with programming database apps I find it odd that the old HyperCard I used 20 years ago has evolved but not as well documented as was HyperCard of old. Oh yes I know Hyper

Re: Trying a custom handler for several math fields

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Stephen Interesting idea, but I first need to learn how to do that? Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com LogMeIn also avaialbl

Re: Trying a custom handler for several math fields

2013-09-12 Thread dunbarx
Vaughn. I keep hearing a certain tone in all your correspondence, that LC is flawed in much of its implementation, its documentation and its execution. It ain't so. It is, rather, a modern miracle of software, and transcends the programming paradigm common to virtually all other similar packag

Re: stack corrupted

2013-09-12 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Vaughn, If you're on a Mac, maybe Time Machine backed up the file you lost. Regards - Phil Davis On 9/12/13 4:39 PM, Vaughn Clement wrote: Hi Everyone I just updated to the newest update for LiveCode 6.5 I then had a surprise when I opened the last stack project I was working on and it's

Trying a custom handler for several math fields

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi All Since my scripts were lost on the update app killer I wanted to try out a custom handler: I wanted to try this out to see how it works for the first time. The original scripts (lost now) were using a field control to do the math between 3 to 4 fields. I used the suggested on closeField han

Re: Trying a custom handler for several math fields

2013-09-12 Thread stephen barncard
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Vaughn Clement wrote: > The same thing happened when I used a > comma for the divider of hundreds. So that kills the scripts. I did not > find anything that tells you how to solve this? I tried the dictionary for > answers but nothing was doing it! > strip the of

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.5.0 DP1

2013-09-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Does exist some way to test/use this feature "resolution independence" in the desktop? Thanks in advance! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-6-5-0-DP1-tp4669716p4669748.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi I don't recall any warning. I just had the update popup on my screen. So I installed it thinking it was the window size update that was due out last month. Owell now I can try out some of the things I was considering doing on that design before the thing went south. By the way I did have it bac

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Monte- Thursday, September 12, 2013, 4:58:01 PM, you wrote: > So I'd just need to have a line offset rather than a char offset. > I think I can change my conflict parser to do that... I think both are necessary: a line offset and a char offset into the line. > Does this support script editors i

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Scott, It looks like this was an email sent to me by The LiveCode Team Try the following link! http://livecode.com/store/livecode/livecode-app2market Cheers, Rick On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > I sure would like to know what this is. Whatever notice was sent out > h

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Truth well told! Many Thanks, Richard. :D Richard Gaskin wrote > Long before they went open source, RunRev added community enhancement > capabilities in the Dictionary through its Comments feature, so anyone > can annotate it with useful additions. > With a language this broad and used in so m

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread James Little
Here's a link: http://livecode.com/store/livecode/livecode-app2market On Sep 12, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > I sure would like to know what this is. Whatever notice was sent out > hasn't showed up here and doesn't appear to be on Nabble either. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Crea

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Rick Harrison
Thank you for clarifying this offering! Rick On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:49 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > On 9/12/13 3:30 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> Does anyone know the real price of this package? >> >> I noticed there are some prices crossed out and others >> were left intact. S

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/09/2013, at 10:01 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> >> So I'd just need to have a line offset rather than a char offset. >> I think I can change my conflict parser to do that... > > I think both are necessary: a line offset and a char offset into the > line. Ah, well the conflict markers will al

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/09/2013, at 10:05 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: > It looks like this was an email sent to me by > The LiveCode Team > > Try the following link! > > http://livecode.com/store/livecode/livecode-app2market It's an interesting proposition... I wonder if they have a google analytics external...

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
I sure would like to know what this is. Whatever notice was sent out hasn't showed up here and doesn't appear to be on Nabble either. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 9/12/13 4:49 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: >The crossed-out prices are what each item w

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/09/2013, at 9:49 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > The crossed-out prices are what each item will cost when the special is over. > The whole package is $499 for now. I must have missed this email... don't know what you guys are talking about. -- M E R Goulding Software development services Be

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/09/2013, at 9:33 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Monte- > > Thursday, September 12, 2013, 3:14:43 PM, you wrote: > >> Well one thing I'd like to work out is if it's possible to open >> up a script editor with the scroll so that a specific char offset >> from the beginning of the script is visibl

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/12/13 3:30 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi there, Does anyone know the real price of this package? I noticed there are some prices crossed out and others were left intact. So it is confusing as to whether the entire package is being offered for $499 or if the offers are pieced together for un

Re: stack corrupted

2013-09-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
6.5 was a developer preview of some very big changes. I would not have recommended running it on a stack that was not backed up in another location. In fact, Mr. Beaumont actually had this at the very beginning of that email: We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.5.0 DP1. > *WARNI

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
This works even better than what I had just mailed monte. Thanks! On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Monte- > > Thursday, September 12, 2013, 3:14:43 PM, you wrote: > > > Well one thing I'd like to work out is if it's possible to open > > up a script editor with the scroll s

Re: Okay, I think I'm brain damaged -- nope, I figured it out

2013-09-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Geoff, Craig- Thursday, September 12, 2013, 1:30:49 PM, you wrote: OTOH, this scales linearly and is faster than "before", "after", or "into": on a half-fast dual-core linux box I get 103 ticks for a million iterations. Even with the overhead of the handler call, it looks like this avoids making

stack corrupted

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Everyone I just updated to the newest update for LiveCode 6.5 I then had a surprise when I opened the last stack project I was working on and it's now corrupted and won't open. I have a backup from this morning, but I lost all the scripting I did during the day. Is anyone else getting this kin

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Monte- Thursday, September 12, 2013, 3:14:43 PM, you wrote: > Well one thing I'd like to work out is if it's possible to open > up a script editor with the scroll so that a specific char offset > from the beginning of the script is visible. I think it's possible > but it probably involves poking

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/09/2013, at 12:25 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > I was going to contact Monte off list but I thought the info might be > useful to others. > > I wanted to give your lcVCS a try on a couple of stacks to see how it does. > When I go to the github page I download the repo but I think the repo >

Yet another mergeEXT fulfillment available

2013-09-12 Thread Jim Lambert
Yes, I to have a kickstarter reward for mergeExt I cannot use. If you are a new customer for Monte and need it, let me know OFF-LIST within the next 24 hours with subject "MergeEXT offer". First come, first served. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing

RE: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread Jim Lambert
Phil wrote: > ... man's ability to bring the machine into his own service, instead of the > other way around. Ah, the reason I continue to code. It will not beat me! Never surrender! It will not beat me! ;) JIm Lambert ___

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
I'm glad you found the scripting conferences useful. I think as you work with LiveCode you'll find that the dictionary does a pretty good job of pointing out most things you need to know, but sometimes you need to know what it is you need to know before the lightbulb goes on. Using numberForma

Re: Okay, I think I'm brain damaged -- nope, I figured it out

2013-09-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Geoff Canyon wrote: > ...okay, I won't bore you all with the details. The tl;dr is that > this: > put "something" after myVariable > > is very fast, but gets slower the bigger myVariable becomes. I'm > slinging around 100s of MBs, and LC doesn't really like appending > strings to a 300mb vari

RE: Okay, I think I'm brain damaged -- nope, I figured it out

2013-09-12 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Geoff, Is 'put "something" BEFORE myVariable' quicker? That way, the engine doesn't have to track to the end each time. Just an idea. Hugh Senior FLCo From: Geoff Canyon wrote: For fifteen years now I've been telling people over and over, "Sure, you can speed that up dramatically by using '

RE: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> Indeed. One of my co-workers was munging/aggregating using > SQL queries -- not a good idea, and was still not done after > an hour. Out of curiosity I got him to send me his data > before lunch, and my first pass yesterday worked by > processing all the (test) data into an array, and finish

Re: Okay, I think I'm brain damaged -- nope, I figured it out

2013-09-12 Thread dunbarx
Geoff. It likes appending even less: --on mouseUp --slow put "XXX" into temp put the ticks into s repeat 10 put accum & temp into accum end repeat answer the ticks - s end mouseUp on mouseUp - faster put "XXX" into temp put the ticks into s repeat 10

Reminder: Q&A with Kevin Miller tonight at SoCal LUG

2013-09-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Just a quick reminder for those who may have missed last week's email: Tonight we're having a special meeting of the SoCal LiveCode User Group - Q&A with Kevin Miller. 7PM at Hamburger Hamlet on South Lake Avenue in Pasadena. Details in the SoCal LUG forum:

Re: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread Peter Haworth
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: > Indeed. One of my co-workers was munging/aggregating using SQL queries -- > not a good idea, and was still not done after an hour. > Hi Geoff, Was the time eaten up by inserting the data into the SQL database or retrieving it? Pete lcSQL So

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/09/2013, at 7:58 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > Ahh, thanks for that info monte. > > I am on windows here too so that would definitely keep me from getting > running with it and that is a very tricky problem indeed to solve without a > lot of re-engineering of the whole system. Not the whole

Re: lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Ahh, thanks for that info monte. I am on windows here too so that would definitely keep me from getting running with it and that is a very tricky problem indeed to solve without a lot of re-engineering of the whole system. Let me know if I can help test anything on windows or there is anything sp

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Mike- Thursday, September 12, 2013, 11:15:00 AM, you wrote: > Great idea LC team. Bravo. OK - this threw me because I saw it before I saw the referenced email. But yes. This looks like a great idea. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.1.1

2013-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner
I was using both Mountain Lion and Win 7. I launched 6.1.1 rc5 or whatever the pre-fail version was, and 5.5.5 or whatever the last 5.x version was. The first time I ran the auto-updater on both platforms, I got community. I exited the updater, and later in the day when it came up again, I tried i

filter appears to work differently when single stepping

2013-09-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I have a global dhUpCds for a list of long names of cards that get updated. When a card closes, I want them removed I made a handler on dhRmUpCd oldCd global dhUpCds filter dhUpCds without "*" & oldCd end dhRmUpCd This is designed to accept either a card name or stack name. I'm finding t

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Vaughn Clement wrote: > The dictionary gives little in the way of script help to debug the > reason why it did not work. I am finding this true of many of the > dictionary descriptions. Maybe a developer will write a new > dictionary stack for new users that includes sample code like the > exampl

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Richard Actually if you take any Opp language or database development language the complexity is 10 times that of LiveCode. and the Help system is so good it covers just about any variation you might encounter. This is an example of what I mean; take formatting a numeric field this should be a

Re: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Geoff Canyon wrote: > I opened my mouth at work when I shouldn't, and now I'm writing a > function to process server log files: multi-gigabytes of data, and > tens of million rows of data. Speed optimization will be key... What sort of processing are you doing on those logs? What are you lookin

Okay, I think I'm brain damaged -- nope, I figured it out

2013-09-12 Thread Geoff Canyon
For fifteen years now I've been telling people over and over, "Sure, you can speed that up dramatically by using 'repeat for each...' instead of 'repeat with i = 1 to the number of...'" And today, something is going horribly wrong with what I've written, and I can't see what. :-/ ...okay, I won

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread dunbarx
Datagrids are very powerful, and free, but take a bit of work to master. Go here: http://lessons.runrev.com/m/datagrid Download the manual. Make a few practice DG's. A datagrid is comprised of standard LC objects and behaviors. They have their own suite of commands and properties that are n

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi there, Does anyone know the real price of this package? I noticed there are some prices crossed out and others were left intact. So it is confusing as to whether the entire package is being offered for $499 or if the offers are pieced together for uncrossed out prices? Does anyone else have

Re: Okay, I think I'm brain damaged -- nope, I figured it out

2013-09-12 Thread dunbarx
I remember someone saying that "before" was the most taxing to the engine. It is so, and the point where things go south occurs much sooner. Whereas the slowdown takes place at a million plus with "after", the slowdown happens between 10,000 and 100,000 with "before": on mouseUp put "XXX"

Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner
Great idea LC team. Bravo. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." __

Re: [OT] Advances in computer technology

2013-09-12 Thread Richmond
On 09/12/2013 05:24 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Richmond wrote: "An outcry by programmers has forced Microsoft to give them early access to Windows 8.1. Yeah, more Windows always makes folks cry . . . :) Wow! A bigger start button: hot patootie! Hey, MS has long

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Vaughn Clement wrote: As trainers yourself you must recognize this in the fragmented approach being used to present instructional materials from LiveCode. Of course, but I wear multiple hats: As a business owner I recognize the cost of developing such comprehensive documentation. While som

Re: Get Your App Noticed

2013-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner
I didn't want to forward their message to the lists since everybody would be seeing it, anyway. This and 6.5 (come on DP2...come on DP2), have me stoked this afternoon. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Mike- > > Thursday, September 12, 2013, 11:15:00 AM, you wrote: > > > G

Re: Okay, I think I'm brain damaged -- nope, I figured it out

2013-09-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Geoff- Thursday, September 12, 2013, 11:04:17 AM, you wrote: > ...okay, I won't bore you all with the details. The tl;dr is that this: > put "something" after myVariable Does "put after" always make an extra copy? Can you get to myVariable by reference and avoid the extra copy? -- -Mark W

RELEASE: LiveCode 6.5.0 DP1

2013-09-12 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Dear List Members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.5.0 DP1. *WARNING*: This is a DEVELOPMENT release (alpha). It's purpose is to put new features into the hands of the LiveCode community for testing and feedback. Please backup your stacks before opening them. This is an exci

Re: filter appears to work differently when single stepping

2013-09-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Klaus major-k wrote: > >## Try with parens: >filter dhUpCds without ("*" & oldCd) Thanks. THis may have done it. It also seems that the watch window for my variable does not get updated after the last iteration until I click on another window--even thoug

lcVCS - Getting started

2013-09-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Hello, I was going to contact Monte off list but I thought the info might be useful to others. I wanted to give your lcVCS a try on a couple of stacks to see how it does. When I go to the github page I download the repo but I think the repo itself is just the lcVCS code being stored by lcVCS. Is

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi J. Landman Gay I have seen your name on some of the stacks I have reviewed. Thank you for the reference link it will surely help me. Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement https://secure.join.me/a

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi J. Landman Gay That is truly a wealth of information at that link. If I am to learn about any kind of app, and in the case of LiveCode the information is everywhere, and you need to find it where every it is hidden. In many cases the information like DataGrids is not available or it is tied to

Re: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread Phil Davis
Big data = big fun! :-) I enjoy those challenges because it (when successful) showcases man's ability to bring the machine into his own service, instead of the other way around. At least that's what I tell myself. Phil Davis On 9/12/13 6:46 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at

Re: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread PystCat
I, for one, welcome our new machine overlords... ;-) On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: > > Phil wrote: > > >> ... man's ability to bring the machine into his own service, instead of the >> other way around. > > Ah, the reason I continue to code. > It will not beat me!

Re: filter appears to work differently when single stepping

2013-09-12 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Richard, Am 12.09.2013 um 18:26 schrieb "Dr. Hawkins" : > I have a global dhUpCds for a list of long names of cards that get > updated. When a card closes, I want them removed > > I made a handler > on dhRmUpCd oldCd global dhUpCds ## Try with parens: filter dhUpCds without ("*" &

Re: [OT] Advances in computer technology

2013-09-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Richmond wrote: > "An outcry by programmers has forced Microsoft to give them early access to > Windows 8.1. Yeah, more Windows always makes folks cry . . . :) >Wow! A bigger start button: hot patootie! Hey, MS has long been a leader in innovation on the Apple

Re: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:35 AM, FlexibleLearning.com < ad...@flexiblelearning.com> wrote: > With multi-gigs of data, you will certainly have to chunk the data. And > access your progress bar judiciously! > Indeed. One of my co-workers was munging/aggregating using SQL queries -- not a good idea

Another mergeEXT fullfilment available

2013-09-12 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
I also have a kickstarter fullfilment for mergeExt iOS that I cannot use. If you are a new customer for Monte and need it, let me know OFF-LIST within the next 24 hours with subject "MergeEXT offer". First come, first served. Hugh Senior FLCo News: ChartMaker 3.0 update at www.FlexibleLearning.

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.1.1

2013-09-12 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Hi Richard, Mike, Christer. Thanks for the report. Could you tell us a little more to help us isolate the issue. Every machine in the office is selecting the correct commercial and community updates correctly so I suspect it only occurs in certain cases. If we can work out what links your three sy

Free merge external

2013-09-12 Thread Gerry Orkin
Hi all I have a Kickstarter reward that entitles me to one free mergExt iOS external. As I'm a mergExt subscriber I don't really need it so if you want it email me direct at gerry [dot] orkin {at} gmail (dot) com with "mergExt" in the subject line - I'll accept requests for 24 hours (given the

Re: Field calculations

2013-09-12 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Possibly field referencing issues... Do you have the correct defaultStack? Try checking the result: put field "Price" * field "Quantity" into fld "Total" answer the defaultStack &CR& the result Hugh Senior FLCo Vaughn Clement wrote: Hi Geoff It made sense to test on a new blank stack and it

RE: Processing Big-ish Data

2013-09-12 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Hi Geoff, Me too :( and yes, 'split/combine' with 'for each' are useful! Ony processing 10-20Mb here, but parsing into arrays I run out of memory. I am maxed out for XP (4Gb). Will have to upgrade to Win7 to access more, I fear, and/or re-write to chunk the data. I didn't realise they were going