Hi Richard Actually if you take any Opp language or database development language the complexity is 10 times that of LiveCode. and the Help system is so good it covers just about any variation you might encounter. This is an example of what I mean; take formatting a numeric field this should be a very simple description. Yet the format command lacks any clear options and notation as to variations in the LC dictionary. Ms. Gay's link had a description and examples of script usage for math calculation that was neither in the dictionary or in the LiveCode University program I paid $50.00 for to help me learn LC. If LiveCode is to be a success and be a player in the IDE product market in the future, they need to consolidate the training is such a way as the new user's can locate answers in a timely manner. Also they should not be charging for what is by my review basic product information that should be available to the user community.
Another issue, the debugger explanation of an error is not adequate for learning LC. It has a HINT why not a reference to help where the user can get a better description of the actual error correction options. This is basic to a product support for users to gain knowledge. "If your not a part of the solution, then you're a part of the problem." This is the the basis of instructional development where a complete analysis of the users requirements are used to define the needed instruction. The organization of the materials and testing of those materials will determine the student outcome. Right now I would give LiveCode a grade of "F" for failure to meet the minimum requirements of the student population. As trainers yourself you must recognize this in the fragmented approach being used to present instructional materials from LiveCode. Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com LogMeIn also avaialble Call on "ooVoo" at address: vaughnclement or 9282549062 Ph. 928-254-9062 Cloud Hosting Registration Web Site: https://my.oditech.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=41 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com>wrote: > Vaughn Clement wrote: > > > The dictionary gives little in the way of script help to debug the > > reason why it did not work. I am finding this true of many of the > > dictionary descriptions. Maybe a developer will write a new > > dictionary stack for new users that includes sample code like the > > example you have at your link. > > Long before they went open source, RunRev added community enhancement > capabilities in the Dictionary through its Comments feature, so anyone can > annotate it with useful additions. > > With a language this broad and used in so many different ways, this sort > of crowdsourcing is much more useful for all of us than assigning that task > to a single person who can't have the breadth of experience of the > community as a whole. > > Perhaps you'll add some debugging tips there? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World > LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com > Follow me on Twitter: > http://twitter.com/**FourthWorldSys<http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys> > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecode<http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode