Re: revOnline and Open Source

As it should ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 01/08/2013, at 1:42 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Thanks for prompting my re-read (so much falls out of one's head after a few > days in Hawaii ). ___

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Monte Goulding wrote: On 01/08/2013, at 12:31 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: GPL3 distinguishes "dynamic linking" as not affected, while "static linking" explicitly inherits GPL freedoms. I thought it was LGPL that made that distinction. On further review, I believe you're right. I got hung

Re: Persistent LC server?

Phil Davis wrote: So it would be a faceless long-running app, right? Sounds like some experimentation is needed to see what is possible. Seems like it could listen to a non-web port and respond to requests there. Do traditional DB calls go through the web server? If not (and maybe if so) you coul

Re: revOnline and Open Source

If you look at the code that writes the LiveCode file to disk you will see that it's just saving object properties. It's a binary file format which is why some of it will look like gobbledygook. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dr. Hawkins wrote: FWIW, the inventor of the GPL prefers "inherit" rather than "infect", since the GPL is a choice authors can make and "infect" has negative connotations that make that choice sound like an accident.

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > On 01/08/2013, at 11:31 AM, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: > >> If, OTOH, you >> distributed a .livecode file, I think you're probably back to a >> derivative work. > > Why? Are all images edited with GIMP derivative works? Are all MySQL > databases

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > (Sticking my non-lawyer nose into this) if something isn't explicitly > GPL then it's not GPL, right? correct. If you don't license or transfer it, it's still completely copyrignted & protected. However, the act of putting it on there shoul

Re: Persistent LC server?

So it would be a faceless long-running app, right? Sounds like some experimentation is needed to see what is possible. Seems like it could listen to a non-web port and respond to requests there. Do traditional DB calls go through the web server? If not (and maybe if so) you could possibly follo

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 01/08/2013, at 11:31 AM, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: > If, OTOH, you > distributed a .livecode file, I think you're probably back to a > derivative work. Why? Are all images edited with GIMP derivative works? Are all MySQL databases derivative works? What about text files written with GPL software?

Re: Open file with double click

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > I'm not sure how to do this in Linux, but I think double-clicking an > unassociated file in Ubuntu would show a window with an option to choose an > app. Actually, it wouldn't be specific to Linux or X, but to the window manager or whatha

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > Copyright Law aside, Isn't revOnline a place to openly 'share' code with > other users. >In fact what other purpose does revOnline perform? Doesn't the idea of sharing >code >openly in a public space enough to declare it as public? Or

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: > FWIW, the inventor of the GPL prefers "inherit" rather than "infect", since > the GPL is a choice authors can make and "infect" has negative connotations > that make that choice sound like an accident. An inheritance a

Persistent LC server?

I've been toying with the idea of using one of my VPSes as a cache server, with a persistent LC Server instance there able to handle queries by returning array values (which is why it needs to be persistent). I can do this will enough with the GUI version of LC via sockets, but I'm not sure ho

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Yes, the license of the community version does infect executables built with > it, >but not automatically. The author still has to include the license with the >software >and if s/he doesn't do that, copright applies automatically and th

Re: Open file with double click

You as a developer, or you as a user? You as a user can just by right-clicking on the file you want to open, and then picking "Open With" (all three platforms). As a developer, see https://www.google.com/search?q=as+a+developer+how+do+I+get+my+file+types+associated+with+a+particular+application&i

Re: Open file with double click

Hi Pete, Just a quick answer. You can set file associations for OSX in the OSX tab of the standalone application settings window. Installer Maker manages the file associations on Windows. I'm not sure how to do this in Linux, but I think double-clicking an unassociated file in Ubuntu would sh

Open file with double click

Is it possible to associate a file extension with a standalone application so the standalone runs when a user double clicks on a file with the extension? Multiple file extensions? This would be for all three desktop platforms. Pete lcSQL Software ___

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 01/08/2013, at 12:31 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > GPL3 distinguishes "dynamic linking" as not affected, while "static linking" > explicitly inherits GPL freedoms. I thought it was LGPL that made that distinction. Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services merg

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 01/08/2013, at 6:34 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Personally, I very strongly prefer to be free to choose my own license for my > work. There are specific implications for GPL, MIT, public domain, etc., and > I like each for different projects. I've asked many times for the lists and forums

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Personally, I very strongly prefer to be free to choose my own license for > my work. There are specific implications for GPL, MIT, public domain, > etc., and I like each for different projects. > > I fear it would greatly limit the range o

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Peter Haworth wrote: However, seems like it would be a good idea for RunRev to publish the terms under which revOnline submissions are accepted so we don't all have to include our own t&cs. Personally, I very strongly prefer to be free to choose my own license for my work. There are specific

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Sharing code is sharing code, but it helps to define the terms under which > it's shared. Otherwise we have no way to know if the intention was GPL, > CC, MIT, public domain, or something else. Have to admit I've always thought of revOn

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 12:44:18 PM, you wrote: Sharing code is sharing code, but it helps to define the terms under which it's shared. Otherwise we have no way to know if the intention was GPL, CC, MIT, public domain, or something else. (Sticking my non-lawye

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Re: revOnline and Open Source

Richard- Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 12:44:18 PM, you wrote: > Sharing code is sharing code, but it helps to define the terms under > which it's shared. Otherwise we have no way to know if the intention > was GPL, CC, MIT, public domain, or something else. (Sticking my non-lawyer nose into this)

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Thomas McGrath III wrote: > Copyright Law aside, Isn't revOnline a place to openly 'share' code > with other users. In fact what other purpose does revOnline perform? > Doesn't the idea of sharing code openly in a public space enough to > declare it as public? Or is that presuming too much? Shar

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Copyright Law aside, Isn't revOnline a place to openly 'share' code with other users. In fact what other purpose does revOnline perform? Doesn't the idea of sharing code openly in a public space enough to declare it as public? Or is that presuming too much? Tom -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyri

Re: Japanese Font Menu

On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:04 AM, in...@kenjikojima.com wrote: > Hi, > > This is Japanese font menu for MacOS and Windows. > You can set the text font of a text field from Japanese menubar. > go to url "http://kenjikojima.com/livecode/download/jpFontMenu03.livecode"; > > I could not remove strange c

RE: Greenhorn Question

Thank you, Peter, Mark and Neil. Now even my cursor changes. Ruediger -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bogdanoff Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2013 16:59 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Greenhorn Question Also add a

Re: Greenhorn Question

All answers are spot on. Greenhorns welcome. The cursor is temporary, and reset to whatever the default is at idle time. This will be virtually instantaneous if you are simple navigating around the card in browse mode. Try this in a button: on mouseUp set the cursor to hand wait until th

Japanese Font Menu

Hi, This is Japanese font menu for MacOS and Windows. You can set the text font of a text field from Japanese menubar. go to url "http://kenjikojima.com/livecode/download/jpFontMenu03.livecode"; I could not remove strange characters of the first line of Windows font menu. -- Kenji Kojima / 小島健治 h

Re: Greenhorn Question

As Peter has mentioned... something like this will work. on mouseEnter set the lockCursor to true set the cursor to hand end mouseEnter on mouseLeave set the lockCursor to false end mouseLeave Kind Regards, Neil Roger - RunRev Support Team ~ http://www.runrev.com -- On 31/07

Re: Greenhorn Question

Hi Rüdiger, The cursor changes, but is reset immediately after the handler finishes. There are two possible solutions. on mouseEnter lock cursor set the cursor to hand end mouseEnter on mouseEnter set the defaultCursor to hand end mouseEnter -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-

Re: Greenhorn Question

Also add a line: set the lockCursor to true and later, when you're done: set the lockCursor to false Peter Bogdanoff UCLA On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:48 AM, Ruediger Wilhelm wrote: > I hardly dare to ask this most likely trivial > question to this list. > Why does the cursor not change on my

Greenhorn Question

I hardly dare to ask this most likely trivial question to this list. Why does the cursor not change on my button script: on mouseEnter set the cursor to hand end mouseEnter Thanks to somebody who cares to help! Ruediger -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Robert Mann wrote: On the frontier :: if the name of the author is not specified in the stack, then it'll be hard to argue against common knowledge. That just isn't the law. Not in the US, and AFAIK, not any country subscribing to the Bern

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Hi, Yes, the license of the community version does infect executables built with it, but not automatically. The author still has to include the license with the software and if s/he doesn't do that, copright applies automatically and the author would be violating LiveCode's open source license.

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 31/07/13 16:49, Robert Mann wrote: Oups! i'm surprised. I thought the opposite would be true :: if nothing specified, it's deemed "public knowledge"? As far as patents are concerned, once a mechanism is documented on line, it is deemed to be public knowledge and thus no more patentable (one c

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Robert Mann wrote: > On the frontier :: if the name of the author is not specified in the stack, > then it'll be hard to argue against common knowledge. That just isn't the law. Not in the US, and AFAIK, not any country subscribing to the Berne convention. *HOWE

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Hi Robert, Anonymous works are still copyrighted by the anonymous author. If the author ever decides to reveal him/herself, he can claim this copyright. Contributions to RevOnline are not anonymous. If need be, they can be traced back to an account and a user. This makes it easier to claim c

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Oups! i'm surprised. I thought the opposite would be true :: if nothing specified, it's deemed "public knowledge"? As far as patents are concerned, once a mechanism is documented on line, it is deemed to be public knowledge and thus no more patentable (one could do it but anybody knowing the prior

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Re: Finding matched parentheses

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