Re: The road ahead

2013-07-08 Thread Terence Heaford
I don't comment often on the list because LiveCode is not currently my main development environment. I would like it to be but I am waiting for further developments before a commit. I thought this simple question would be valid. --- Resolution Independanc

mApp LC6.1 crash

2013-07-08 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi folks I just found a crash with LC 6.1 and mApp which I have reported here: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11039 It's related to setting the behavior of an object from a script that is itself that objects behavior and at a guess the issue was introduced with the behavior inherita

Re: Object Architecture ?

2013-07-08 Thread Monte Goulding
On 09/07/2013, at 3:19 PM, Richmond wrote: > "IDE: Object Architecture" > > mean that Livecode is moving from being an object-based language > to being an object oriented one? > > and if that is true, could someone point out what on earth > the difference is between these 2 types of language.

Object Architecture ?

2013-07-08 Thread Richmond
Does this: "IDE: Object Architecture" mean that Livecode is moving from being an object-based language to being an object oriented one? and if that is true, could someone point out what on earth the difference is between these 2 types of language. Richmond. ___

The road ahead

2013-07-08 Thread Richmond
nothing to do with Mr Gates . . . useful reference: http://livecode.com/community/roadmap/ tick them off as/if they are brought to fruition. Richmond. PS. Maybe should be titled "The road, a head" and see if it gets from inside our heads out into the real world :) __

Re: 6.1 Installer Ubuntu

2013-07-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Mike- Monday, July 8, 2013, 6:24:29 PM, you wrote: > Got it guys - LiveCode is apparently using the 32-bit libraries, so you > have to install ia32-libs on a 64-bit machine. ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 > doesn't fix it. ? I thought the multiarch libraries were a superset of the ia32libs? Anyway, g

Article: The Dangers of Beating Your Kickstarter Goal

2013-07-08 Thread Mikey _
*The Dangers of Beating Your Kickstarter Goal* http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/07/08/229206/the-dangers-of-beating-your-kickstarter-goal Sent via Flipboard Please ignore weird auto-corrected words, this message was sent from my iPad. _

Re: 6.1 Installer Ubuntu

2013-07-08 Thread Mike Kerner
Got it guys - LiveCode is apparently using the 32-bit libraries, so you have to install ia32-libs on a 64-bit machine. ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 doesn't fix it. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I am also running 12.04 LTS. I've tried both the commercial and community > ve

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Thanks Phil, I had read that, and found some other useful info here as well. https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io-spec Andrew On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: > Mark , > > Should work (untested) : > > Node.js on the server side + revBrowser (desktop) or mobileBrowser >

Re: FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/8/13 6:42 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Thanks Klaus and Matthias. I believe I got it working, and I think the key phrase in my case was "start using stack xyzŠ" I'm confused though, because the dictionary says if externals are manually set for a stack via script, the stack must relaunched before

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
Mark , Should work (untested) : Node.js on the server side + revBrowser (desktop) or mobileBrowser (iOS/android) + some js + client-side pseudo urls to get catched by : on browserLoadRequested pUrl, pType -- prefered on the iOS platform (desktop platforms untested) end browserLoadRequested a

Re: FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks Klaus and Matthias. I believe I got it working, and I think the key phrase in my case was "start using stack xyzŠ" I'm confused though, because the dictionary says if externals are manually set for a stack via script, the stack must relaunched before LiveCode can use the externals. In my

Re: BrainDead on Groups

2013-07-08 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Tom, I guess you could check the owner of the group within your repeat loop and ignore any whose owner is not "Main Group". Pete lcSQL Software On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > I always seem to get messed up when working with groups. > > I

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Phil Davis
On 7/8/13 11:51 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: However, we don't have proper sockets support on mobile (without externals at least) I am mainly interested in desktop apps at the moment simply because we are doing most of our mobile apps as mobile web apps. However, this will change likely in the nex

Re: On-Rev Desktop App not working (Mac)

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Morrow
I just had the same conversation with David Williams about the On-Rev desktop client not working for me (I was moved from loki to pancake). Even as flawed as it was, the On-Rev desktop client still had some wonderful abilities and I'm hoping someone is able to resurrect it. -- Scott Morrow On

Re: BrainDead on Groups

2013-07-08 Thread dunbarx
Good to know about the new childControlId. But you might also loop through all groups, and if the owner is "maingroup", then you can get the info you need. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Monte Goulding To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 6:34 pm Subject: Re: Brai

Re: BrainDead on Groups

2013-07-08 Thread Monte Goulding
On 09/07/2013, at 8:12 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > put the number of groups of group "MainGroup" into tGroups If you are using LC 6.1 you can iterate the childControlIDs of group "MainGroup" -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for

BrainDead on Groups

2013-07-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I always seem to get messed up when working with groups. I have a group with groups in it and subgroups in those groups like this: MainGroup Index1 SubGroup1 SubGroup2 Index2 SubGroup1 SubGroup2 Index3 SubGroup1 SubGroup2 Index4 SubGroup1

Re: FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Matthias, Am 08.07.2013 um 22:09 schrieb Matthias Rebbe : > Hi Klaus, > > shouldn´t it be tFolder instead of tFile in line 2 of your script? Yes, sure, sorry :-) > Regards, > > Matthias > Am 08.07.2013 um 21:55 schrieb Klaus major-k : > >> Hi Scott, >> >> Am 08.07.2013 um 18:49 schrieb

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Mike Kerner
FYI, there is a mobile sockets plugin being developed by Monte at the moment. The first beta has been in our hands for a couple of weeks. Sockets are fun, and very involved. You are the one implementing the protocols. Sometimes that's exactly what you need, and other times, it's extra work you

Re: FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Klaus, shouldn´t it be tFolder instead of tFile in line 2 of your script? Regards, Matthias Am 08.07.2013 um 21:55 schrieb Klaus major-k : > Hi Scott, > > Am 08.07.2013 um 18:49 schrieb Scott Rossi : > >> Thanks Klaus. The external is getting copied over as expected, and I've >> tried ma

Re: FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Scott, Am 08.07.2013 um 18:49 schrieb Scott Rossi : > Thanks Klaus. The external is getting copied over as expected, and I've > tried manually setting the externals property of the stack with the bundle > name of the external. But I think I'm still missing something. What does > your ext

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Kluthe
>>However, we don't have proper sockets support on mobile (without externals at least) I am mainly interested in desktop apps at the moment simply because we are doing most of our mobile apps as mobile web apps. However, this will change likely in the next few years if we were to see sockets and

Re: On-Rev Desktop App not working (Mac)

2013-07-08 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Medard, if your account was moved to or is on one of the new servers like tio or pancake then the on-rev client will not work at the moment. There is still some hope Runrev will fix this. At least David Williams from Runrev told me that he has access to the source code of the client and that

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Mark Wilcox
We know, I'm interested in websockets for realtime comms between apps. Right now I think it'd be possible to implement one or more of the supported transports for socket.io in pure LiveCode but maybe not very efficiently. An alternative would be to wrap existing native implementations as externa

Re: Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Kluthe
So basically you just need to trick it into recognizing your user agent it seems. As far as getting into the authorized parts of your site, libURLSetCustomHTTPHeaders "GET / HTTP/1.1" & cr & "Authorization: Basic " & base64Encode("username:password") & cr &"User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.

On-Rev Desktop App not working (Mac)

2013-07-08 Thread Medard
Hi! After a (long) while, I tried to go with the On-Rev Desktop App.. The App seems to be locked at the login in... Is this related to the server change? I had a look into the App, but there is nowhere to change the website... ___ use-livecode mailin

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
The HTTP(S) REST architecture is full supported on any LC desktop or mobile platform, iOS and Android included. They can be set to act as clients of any kind of nTier server side application (LC-Server, PHP, RoR, etc...). Le 8 juil. 2013 à 18:19, Mark Wilcox a écrit : > I'm interested in using

Re: FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks Klaus. The external is getting copied over as expected, and I've tried manually setting the externals property of the stack with the bundle name of the external. But I think I'm still missing something. What does your external loading routine look like? Thanks & Regards, Scott Rossi

Re: LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Mark Wilcox
I'm interested in using something like socket.io as part of a backend for mobile (and maybe also desktop) apps.  However, we don't have proper sockets support on mobile (without externals at least) and websockets are very definitely not the same thing as standard sockets. What do you have in mi

Re: Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Andrew, That must be it. The httpHeaders (or libUrlCustomHttpHeaders) are empty by default. However, if I check the user agent by connecting to a PHP script on my server, the server says the agent is "Revolution (MacOS)" or "LiveCode (MacOS)", even though the httpHeaders are empty. -- Bes

Re: Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Kluthe
What does livecode's user-agent read as by default? Is it possible that the shoutcast server is not recognizing the user agent livecode presents and therefore not sending data? on mouseUp libURLSetCustomHTTPHeaders "GET / HTTP/1.1" & cr &"User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537

Re: Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Kluthe
1. Request URL: http://stream-11.streamsolutions.co.uk:9428/ 2. Request Method: GET 3. Status Code: 200 OK 4. Request Headersview source 1. Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 2. Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch

Re: What happened to Applescript in LiveCode Community 6.1?

2013-07-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Emmett Gray wrote: > I just opened a bug report. But in the meantime I peeked into the app > bundles for 6.0 and 6.1. Where will I find this resource to copy? Or > do I need to build it myself? I don't want to go to any trouble, so > I'll use 6.0 until this is fixed, if this is not a drag and dro

Re: Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Tim, Check the result. The result says: "error No header received". I don't know if this means that LiveCode decided not to handle the data or that no data is received or that the server expected a header and doesn't get any from LiveCode and hence doesn't send data. -- Best regards, Mar

LiveCode and WebSockets

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I have been learning a little bit about websockets lately for a project and I have never really played around with livecode's socket communication methods. This makes me curious. Is there anyone else on the list that might be more familiar with both that would be interested in discussing using som

Re: Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Tim Selander
Not for the basic page. If I want to get at the statistics on the admin page, (which eventually I'd like to do), I would need to send a user name and password. But first I tried to simply get the public page and failed. Thanks, Tim On 7/9/13 12:00 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Your url doe

Re: What happened to Applescript in LiveCode Community 6.1?

2013-07-08 Thread Emmett Gray
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:20:30 +1000, Monte Goulding wrote: > >On 08/07/2013, at 1:08 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> RunRev has a long history of forgetting to include the AppleScript >> disctionary resource into new builds. I'm not sure why this hasn't been >> automated, but it's happened befor

Re: Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Your url doesn't require any authentication does it? On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Tim Selander wrote: > Hi, > > I have a little shoutcast radio station, and wanted to play around with > the data that shows up on the html page. > > LC is not successfully getting the URL. It gets other URL/pag

Getting URL of a shoutcast server....

2013-07-08 Thread Tim Selander
Hi, I have a little shoutcast radio station, and wanted to play around with the data that shows up on the html page. LC is not successfully getting the URL. It gets other URL/pages for me just fine, but not the shoutcast page. The shoutcast URL is followed by a port number. Is that what is t

Re: FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Scott, Am 08.07.2013 um 13:30 schrieb Scott Rossi : > Anyone been able to get the FranklinAudio audio external working in a Mac > standalone? > > I have FranklinAudio working fine in the LC IDE, but when I launch a > standalone that includes the external, I get an error while trying to > init

Re: 6.1 Installer Ubuntu

2013-07-08 Thread Mike Kerner
I am also running 12.04 LTS. I've tried both the commercial and community versions. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Neil Roger wrote: > On 07/07/2013 04:41, Mike Kerner wrote: > >> Is anybody else having trouble with the 6.1 installer in Ubuntu? I >> checked >> the executable checkbox, but fo

FranklinAudio in Standalone?

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Anyone been able to get the FranklinAudio audio external working in a Mac standalone? I have FranklinAudio working fine in the LC IDE, but when I launch a standalone that includes the external, I get an error while trying to initialize the external. I ran into the same trouble on Windows, and was

Re: LC 6 icon in Mac dock is completly transparent

2013-07-08 Thread Richmond
On 08/07/13 12:20, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: The new LC 6 icon is on my 10.5.8 Mac completely transparent / or not existing. The small icon in the program folder is ok. Are there any known backward compatibility issues with 10.5 or should I file it as a bug? Tiemo _

How to deinstall LC?

2013-07-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Since 2.8 I still have all version installed. I think it's time to get rid of some old versions, but I didn't find any not on how to deinstall LC on Win / Mac. Is there any hidden deinstaller or should I just dump the program folder and leave the rest of sattelite files on my computers? Thanks for

Re: 6.1 Installer Ubuntu

2013-07-08 Thread Neil Roger
On 07/07/2013 04:41, Mike Kerner wrote: Is anybody else having trouble with the 6.1 installer in Ubuntu? I checked the executable checkbox, but for some reason it won't run as an admin or root. I've tried downloading it a couple of times. In the past all I had to do was check the executable bo

LC 6 icon in Mac dock is completly transparent

2013-07-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
The new LC 6 icon is on my 10.5.8 Mac completely transparent / or not existing. The small icon in the program folder is ok. Are there any known backward compatibility issues with 10.5 or should I file it as a bug? Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailin

Re: RosettaCode

2013-07-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
I don't have much experience with the site, but what I've seen seems more friendly than contentious. The goal seems to be the exchange of information, to help people learn about the different languages. With the new language features coming in LiveCode, I think it provides a rich template for