Re: ho lee kow

On 02/02/2013 05:55 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: No, I'm not referring to a Chinese farmer… I emailed Steve Wozniak earlier today, and he replied already. He said he's going to sponsor 'me' on Kickstarter. I've replied to let him know that it isn't me, I'm just a customer and a pledger. And to ask

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 02/02/2013 02:16 AM, François Chaplais wrote: OK, open source is the cure for cancer... So I spend months, which become years implementing, say, a decent math library for Livecode Who pays the rent? You will have to release it as commercial-only if you want any rent at all in the f

Re: LC MISTAKES

Nigel, If you were able to use the original HyperCard, but with the advanced capabilities of Revolution/LiveCode, on today's hardware you cannot imagine how ecstatic you would be doing the same thing. Your learning curve would be a matter of hours, rather than a couple of weeks. Of course we di

Re: ho lee kow

He backed it!... I just thanked him on twitter... maybe others should? On 02/02/2013, at 4:04 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > They must only be interested in the resorts he stays in. Ah, well lets hope > he makes a decent pledge. > > -- > M E R Goulding > Software development services > > mergExt

LC MISTAKES

Hi Joe So we've gone to the moon and back and are dreaming up scenarios that require us to alter the inevitable courses of meteors to save a planet whose inhabitants don't see that it is being destroyed by their collective stupidity. I want to stop and smell the roses for a while; or do somethin

Re: ho lee kow

They must only be interested in the resorts he stays in. Ah, well lets hope he makes a decent pledge. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 02/02/2013, at 3:29 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Alas, he doesn't tweet that kind of item, he has too

Re: ho lee kow

In my first message to him I explained about how Apple stopped developing HyperCard, and talked about a few similar tools, before going on to talk about LiveCode in particular. So, I had mentioned a few tools, hence his comment about more than one variant. On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Mark Wie

Re: ho lee kow

Colin- Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:55:54 PM, you wrote: > He also said this, and hopefully he won't mind that I've quoted him: > "I have never found anything like Hypercard (or its variants) "Hypercard (or its variants)"? Is that supposed to be a recommendation? Maybe he could learn the name?

Re: ho lee kow

Alas, he doesn't tweet that kind of item, he has too many non-technical followers. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.

Re: ho lee kow

On 2/1/13 9:55 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I emailed Steve Wozniak earlier today, and he replied already. I'm so glad we have you with us, Colin. You know everybody. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.

Re: ho lee kow

I guess that would have qualified me as a "professional developer", although about that time frame in my programming "education" I had to ask a dealer tech what the letter "k" stood for. (hmn!) Joe Wilkins On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: (quoting Woz) > "I have never found an

Re: to find the first numeric line?

I'm glad you did this, it's interesting. I'm not sure about the binary results. Doesn't the repeat loop exit early if the search block contains a few short lines? I think you could get a block of text that might contain the first instance of a leading digit, but they wouldn't be checked because

Re: ho lee kow

That's crazy cool! Wow I mean Woz! Nice... :) John Patten SUSD On Feb 01, 2013, at 07:55 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: No, I'm not referring to a Chinese farmer… I emailed Steve Wozniak earlier today, and he replied already. He said he's going to sponsor 'me' on Kickstarter. I've replied

Re: LiveCode Kickstart widget is in place

Been on my web site since day one, www.lcsql.com Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Scott Morrow wrote: > Done on this site as well. > > > > Scott Morrow > > Elementary Software > (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) > web

ho lee kow

No, I'm not referring to a Chinese farmer… I emailed Steve Wozniak earlier today, and he replied already. He said he's going to sponsor 'me' on Kickstarter. I've replied to let him know that it isn't me, I'm just a customer and a pledger. And to ask again if he would Tweet about it. He also sa

Re: gcc lc and gpl

Correct, so your created stacks would not be GPL, however, if you embedded gcc in your c program somehow then your c program would also be GPL. So if you build a standalone with the GPL version (attaching the engine) the standalone is GPL. That's why runrev will offer a commercial license. Chee

gcc lc and gpl

If I write a program in c, and compile it with gcc, that does not require my new program to be gpl, even though gcc is, correct? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your s

Re: LC MISTAKES

On 2/1/13 8:29 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card script does a pass, does it go to the groups on the card? Background groups receive messages after the card does, so passing a message on the card will send it to the background group. If

Re: LC MISTAKES

Hi Jacqi, I've always appreciate your attempts to "educate" me on this subject. I just didn't want to do things that way, so I ignored your efforts, figuring your postings on the topic must be helping someone else on the list. So I guess I was both deaf and blind to the issue. My biggest compla

Re: LC MISTAKES

In terms of hierarchy, where does that group fall? Like, if a card script does a pass, does it go to the groups on the card? On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:19 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > To reproduce HC backgrounds, just make a group, set its backgroundBehavior to > true, and it's layer to 1. That's

Re: LC MISTAKES

Steven, No doubt you are probably right, but I'd have done it differently; which is why it didn't get done the way I think it should have been done. Hind-sight is always perfect. There were many stacks I created that raw neophyte, computer illiterate teen agers were able to use in a high-pressu

Re: LC MISTAKES

On 2/1/13 5:42 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I want my background layer back. Not going to happen, I know. (sigh) I realize this is a bit tangential to your main point, but I'm not sure what you're missing with backgrounds. I still occasionally port old HC stacks and their backgrounds work fi

Re: LiveCode Kickstart widget is in place

Done on this site as well. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com office 1-800-615-0867 -- On Ja

Re: LC MISTAKES

1. One have to remember that the Metacard engine roots go way back (1992) before Revolution and Runrev. Whatever Dr. Raney did a long time ago he did for a good reason and set the stage for where we are at now and the absence of a background layer has been part of the design. I think he saw the li

Re: BackgroudBehavior of a group

Thanks Scott. I think our posts crossed in the ether as I have found a wrkaround for this by simply copying the card to a different substack. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > If I understand what you're trying to do/asking, substa

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

François Chaplais wrote: > OK, open source is the cure for cancer... > So I spend months, which become years implementing, say, a decent > math library for Livecode > Who pays the rent? Alternative answer: You may not need to write the library at all, but instead find that someone else

Re: LC MISTAKES

Björnke, et al, I suppose you've hit the nail right on the head. My 80th birthday will be here in little over a month; and, by being nearly blind for the past 5 years, I have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, much less learning stuff that requires me to unlearn and do-over things I've

Re: BackgroudBehavior of a group

It was only a surprise because the dictionary says "Use the *backgroundBehavior* property to make groups behave like backgrounds and to automatically place groups on newly created cards." Nothing about cards in the same stack. But I agree it couldn't work across stacks. Except that I just copie

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Glen Bojsza wrote: Nothing in the GPL would prevent anyone from *writing* such a feature, but since the GPL requires that all source code under it be available that would prevent them from ever *using* it. ;) So given Kevin has said the stack protection code will be under GPL will you stop

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

It would need to be an external to do that as far as I can tell. It would be nice to be able to create a derivative engine and maintain it as a separate fork that could still be used by commercial LC license holders but I think to do that you would need to come to license terms per app with runr

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

François Chaplais wrote: So I spend months, which become years implementing, say, a decent math library for Livecode Who pays the rent? You do, by creating value for your customers. You can sell the closed source library if you get a commercial license for LiveCode. Or more than like

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

François Chaplais wrote: OK, open source is the cure for cancer... So I spend months, which become years implementing, say, a decent math library for Livecode Who pays the rent? Whomever you can get to pay it. If you want to keep the source proprietary, you can use a proprietary lice

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

He was saying that the hypothetical protection code that a contributor had written would be under GPL. The protection code that is in current LiveCode would only be in the commercial version, and isn't covered by GPL. On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: >> >So given Kevin has said

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

> > Nothing in the GPL would prevent anyone from *writing* such a feature, but > since the GPL requires that all source code under it be available that would > prevent them from ever *using* it. ;) > So given Kevin has said the stack protection code will be under GPL will you > stop using it?

Re: to find the first numeric line?

I just can't resist a good benchmark / coding challenge. Summary - for small data (10s of thousand of lines), they're all fairly quick; for large data sets, there are big performance differences and how far through the data set the "start-with-numeric" lines begin. I used 10 million lines of

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

If you need the functions enough then its worthwhile you doing it but if not then you won't be able to justify the time. Same scenario for any other bit of code you write I guess. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 02/02/2013, at 11:16 AM

Re: LC MISTAKES

> So, I don't think Apple would go for the idea of having a killer development > tool included with each Mac anymore. Again, with the Kickstarter initiative > it won't matter, everyone on Mac, Windows , or Linux, will be able to use > LiveCode for free. In this world of today, nothing is free, e

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Glen Bojsza wrote: What if someone contributes to the GPL version that gives it the ability to have and create password protected stacks (not supporting the commercial implementation but a whole new variant)? Obviously, there will be contributors that will want to add features to the GPL version

Re: LC MISTAKES

HyperCard's way of doing background was often a problem. You might want to have a set of things in the interface appear on every card, but much of the rest of the background be different. That meant making a new background for every variation, instead of having a "super background" that had most

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

OK, open source is the cure for cancer... So I spend months, which become years implementing, say, a decent math library for Livecode Who pays the rent? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscrib

Re: BackgroudBehavior of a group

It shouldn't have been a surprise that the group didn't appear when you made a new card in another stack. If it worked that way, then when you made a new card in another stack it ought to make every background group you've ever made appear. All you have to do to get what you want is to copy the

Re: LC MISTAKES

Hi Joe On 02/02/2013, at 10:42 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > 1. I had little problem with the initial cost to sign up for Revolution; > but, very soon I discovered that it was going to be MUCH more expensive for > the "H/C" accustomed user to adopt. I'll talk about this more, later on. The

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Yes, we considered that. That stack protection code would be under GPL. So it would have to be open. And therefore anyone could reverse engineer it. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 01/02/2013 23:56, "Glen Bojsz

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

You're not allowed to release features that are not open source, so I doubt that you could release an add-on that prevents other features from fulfilling their open source-ness. On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: > >What if someone contributes to the GPL version that gives it the

Re: LC MISTAKES

The past is dead. Those who strive to life in the past, only aim for their own death. On 02.02.2013, at 00:42, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > I'd like to take a completely tangential approach to this whole dilemma. > > When I first came aboard, I was thrilled by what I thought was to be a > conti

Re: BackgroudBehavior of a group

If I understand what you're trying to do/asking, substacks can only inherit properties from the main stack, not objects. One option is to create a substack that contains all your "master" objects, from which you copy objects to where you need them. But unless you're going to have dozens of substa

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

What if someone contributes to the GPL version that gives it the ability to have and create password protected stacks (not supporting the commercial implementation but a whole new variant)? Obviously, there will be contributors that will want to add features to the GPL version that has similar fea

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Ah. I had thought "filter" deleted the specified characters in a string, not that it loses lines containing those characters directly. I think I knew that once. Live and re-learn. Craig From: Jim Lambert To: use-livecode Sent: Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:10 pm Subject: Re: to find the first

BackgroudBehavior of a group

Just getting around to using background groups for the first time. I created a group on a card and set its backgroundbehavior to true, which also set its sharedbehavior to true. My impression is that the group should now automatically appear any time I create a new card. It does, if the new card

LC MISTAKES

I'd like to take a completely tangential approach to this whole dilemma. When I first came aboard, I was thrilled by what I thought was to be a continuation of "H/C"; but, shortly I was to be disillusioned by a number of factors. 1. I had little problem with the initial cost to sign up for R

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

In the commercial version you will be able to publish for iOS App Store distribution, and you'll also be able to password protect your stacks. On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > Is the first just like it is presently, but the second is? > > Or the LiveCode application ha

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Nvm. :) won't work in all cases. Back under the rock it is for me! On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Actually it would be better to check for no matches so.. > > sort numeric temp > filter temp without "[1-9]*" > if temp is not empty then return the number of lines of temp +

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 02/02/2013, at 10:22 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > Hi, > > What I don't quite understand is the physical difference between a > commercially-licensed and an open source-licensed RunRev application. > > Is the first just like it is presently, but the second is? > > Or the LiveCode appli

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Actually it would be better to check for no matches so.. sort numeric temp filter temp without "[1-9]*" if temp is not empty then return the number of lines of temp + 1 return "No Match" On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Could change it to > > sort numeric temp > filter temp

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Could change it to sort numeric temp filter temp without "[1-9]*" return the number of lines of temp + 1 thereby killing 2 of the lines. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and mana

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi, What I don't quite understand is the physical difference between a commercially-licensed and an open source-licensed RunRev application. Is the first just like it is presently, but the second is? Or the LiveCode application has two versions...? Peter UCLA On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:12 PM, P

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Forgot to add 1. So make that: function getNumericLineStarts temp put the number of lines of temp into totalLines sort numeric temp filter temp with "[1-9]*" put the number of lines of temp into totalLinesNumericStart return totalLines-totalLinesNumericStart + 1 end getNumericLine

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Thanks Monte. I guess I was thinking of new features rather than bug fixes, e.g some sort of new control. But I guess the principal is the same. As you say, it will be interesting to see how all this unfolds. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Monte Go

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Craig wrote: > But there is a problem in that much, if not all of his data is both alpha and > numeric, like "A2" > So filtering will not eliminate those lines that contain strings in that form. > Works on this: 1a 1b a1 a2b4 3t c7 5u h2 5k Give it a shot. JimL > Mark wrote: > >> have you t

Re: # 8 on Kicktraq!

I have a friend who ran a successful KS project, albeit for a lot less money. One of the things he did was to post updates to the project every couple of days - news of well known donors, encouraging words to donate, even repeating stuff from the main body of the project, anything to keep the pro

Re: Apple

Like I said, Apple appear to be able to do whatever the hell they want these days. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Peter Haworth writes: > > > > > OK, but Java isn't "Apple software", is it? Even their own software > > updates no

Re: Apple

Peter Haworth writes: > > OK, but Java isn't "Apple software", is it? Even their own software > updates notify me it's about to be updated and a chance to say yay or nay. > Plus, owning the software doesn't seem like it gives them the right to > block it from running on my computer. Of course

Re: # 8 on Kicktraq!

This is good analysis. Our existing community is quite a bit bigger so plenty more to be convinced there. But you're right we need to reach a broader community. Millions remember HyperCard which is our strongest card (pardon the pun). Question: how good do you think the video really is for thos

Re: # 8 on Kicktraq!

On 31/01/2013 19:33, Monte Goulding wrote: Dropping back and the funding is coming in too slow. If you multiply yesterday's pledges by 29 and add the 32002 from the first day then we are looking at 282,446. Kicktraq still says we are trending above target but it won't in a few days if we don't

Re: Apple

OK, but Java isn't "Apple software", is it? Even their own software updates notify me it's about to be updated and a chance to say yay or nay. Plus, owning the software doesn't seem like it gives them the right to block it from running on my computer. I get Jacque's point about it being for my o

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

I believe the intention is to have a rewards for contributors to the engine. Points that go towards commercial licenses. That's just a bonus though. I think what's most likely to happen is something like this: RunRev will do most feature development A developer hits a bug when working on an app

Re: Apple

Looks like Java will be back on soon: http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/01/oracle-releases-java-7-update-13-to-address-security-issues-reenable-web-plug-in-on-os-x/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to su

Re: Apple

Peter Haworth writes: > > Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable > that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from > running on it without asking my permission first. Or maybe they did and I > missed it The latter. By not returning the

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

On 2/1/13 2:43 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: I know having a beard hair from kevin in a block of acrylic on my desk would be something to cherish and pass on, but maybe thats just me... Yeah, probably. :) But maybe he should include it in the Kickstarter gift lists anyway. -- Jacqueline Landman G

Re: Apple

On 2/1/13 2:33 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from running on it without asking my permission first. Or maybe they did and I missed it :-) Google Play store does

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 2/1/13 2:16 PM, Richmond wrote: where you wrote: "so anyone developing Apple products will need to purchase the commercial license" you should have written: "so anyone developing Apple products to be sold through either the App Store or the Mac App Store will need to purchase the commercial

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

OK, makes some kind of sense. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Yeah, you're missing the point, kind of. Everyone who contributes can also > use all contributions by everyone else

Re: Apple

They did do that once already, but once the security issue (or whatever the big deal is) is fixed, then it will be left alone. The goal isn't to block Java, it's to stop people from hijacking your machine. Here's a reminder about the issue at hand: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/u-s-a

Re: Apple

You could be right, but what I read in the paper was "Apple sends out virtual blacklists to internet-connected Macs, instructing them not run certain programs". That sounds like something other than a software update. That sounds legally "dicky". Pete lcSQL Software

Re: Apple

You could be right, but what I read in the paper was "Apple sends out virtual blacklists to internet-connected Macs, instructing them not run certain programs". That sounds like something other than a software update. Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Pa

Re: Apple

On 02/01/2013 10:59 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: That may be the normal way to update software. What they've done, which is clever really, is just change the version number that Java requires to work, without changing any installed applications. By changing that to a version later than the current

Re: SOAP for Dummies?

Scott Rossi writes: > > Hey All: > > I'm looking to grab some weather data from a web service that apparently > uses SOAP requests and responses, for which I know absolutely nothing, > (other than it's XML?), and am looking for some more info. > > I picked up Mark Wieder's SOAP lib stack, but

Re: Apple

That may be the normal way to update software. What they've done, which is clever really, is just change the version number that Java requires to work, without changing any installed applications. By changing that to a version later than the current one, it effectively disables all sites. On Fe

Re: to find the first numeric line?

Jim. This is very cute. Almost Jacque-like. But there is a problem in that much, if not all of his data is both alpha and numeric, like "A2" So filtering will not eliminate those lines that contain strings in that form. Craig -Original Message- From: Jim Lambert To: use-live

Re: Apple

The Java security model i learned about along my master 2 in net apps design and dev (2004) helped me to understand that the Java security model was mostly broken in any sense of this term… Should be good to see that nine years later, Java begin to appear as a less productive platform than the m

Re: SOAP for Dummies?

HI Scott It's just a post to the url. I used Mark's stack in a project. From memory I had to tweak a couple of things in the soap template to suit the server I was posting to but it works well. Cheers Monte On 02/02/2013, at 7:16 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Hey All: > > I'm looking to grab som

Re: Apple

I think the only way they can do that is with 'Software Update'. Paul On 2013-02-01, at 12:33 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable > that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from > running on it without askin

Re: A Personal Letter from Our CEO

well a good beard should then be about 35 quid per hair then so perhaps there should be a funding level for a follicle level support. maybe get your name laser etched on a hair or get the clipped hair at the end of the year. Just another way to incentivize the fundraising. I know having a beard

Re: option menu button

Hi Jan, Ok, it runs ! so simple ... Le 1 févr. 2013 à 21:28, Jan Schenkel a écrit : > Hi Yves, > > Lock messages before you change the selected text and unlock messages after. > This will prevent the 'menuPick' message from being sent. > > HTH, > > Jan Schenkel. > > = > Quartam Reports

Re: option menu button

Hi Yves, Lock messages before you change the selected text and unlock messages after. This will prevent the 'menuPick' message from being sent. HTH, Jan Schenkel.   = Quartam Reports & PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at

Re: Apple

Right, I knew it was only the browser plugin. I just find it unbelievable that Apple can get into my computer at home and block something from running on it without asking my permission first. Or maybe they did and I missed it :-) Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 a

Re: mobile push notifications how-to

Hi Chris, Will send to this list the LC (push messages editor), PHP (server relayer to the APNS and GCM servers) and SQL (devices to send the messages too) scripts i use to manage this kind of tasks against iOS and Android next week after coming back to desk. Too recent to be really perfect but

option menu button

Hi list, is it possible to change the selectedtext of an option menu button from an other btn without sending a menuPick message to the option menu button I want at the end of a script that the menu chosen in an option menu button is set to the first one without the menuPick message of this opt

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi Pete et al, Good free/open source software projects care about the code hygiene (what bits come from where and are the intellectual property rights respected) and have a contributor agreement which every contributor needs to sign before any of his submitted changes are included in the source

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 02/01/2013 10:11 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Pete, Yeah, you're missing the point, kind of. Everyone who contributes can also use all contributions by everyone else and when you contribute, you make it more attractive to others to cntribute too. That's the reward of open-source software

SOAP for Dummies?

Hey All: I'm looking to grab some weather data from a web service that apparently uses SOAP requests and responses, for which I know absolutely nothing, (other than it's XML?), and am looking for some more info. I picked up Mark Wieder's SOAP lib stack, but I'm wondering if there's a resource/exa

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 02/01/2013 10:05 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/1/13 12:53 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: As being a dev tool, there will be a certain percentage who will want to use it for proprietary deployment. And then there's the part how Apple won't accept any GPL apps in either the App Store or the Mac

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Hi Pete, Yeah, you're missing the point, kind of. Everyone who contributes can also use all contributions by everyone else and when you contribute, you make it more attractive to others to cntribute too. That's the reward of open-source software and there is no reason for any additional compens

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

On 2/1/13 12:53 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: As being a dev tool, there will be a certain percentage who will want to use it for proprietary deployment. And then there's the part how Apple won't accept any GPL apps in either the App Store or the Mac App Store, so anyone developing Apple products

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Thanks Mark. As mentioned, I know nothing of C++ so this isn't going to affect me. But it doesn't seem unreasonable that someone who is willing to contribute code into a free product might feel like they should be compensated should that code be incorporated into a product that costs money. Or p

Re: Apple

Thanks Mark. I know enough of what I'm doing to be able to do that! Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > If you know what you're doing, then you're able to turn off this security >

Re: Apple

Stephen- Friday, February 1, 2013, 11:26:29 AM, you wrote: > And they've dropped support and announced to everyone (yesterday) that it's > not secure. To remove some of the FUD about this, the insecurity is with the java browser plugin. Anything beyond that needs to be viewed in light of the lon

Re: Coding challenge

I'm interested that nobody went recursive. My first solution (I read Mark's email and stopped reading until I'd done a version) was command testChange local t put empty into t repeat 10 times get random(99) put format("to make %d:%s\n", it, makeChange(it)) after t end re

Re: Apple

On 02/01/2013 09:26 PM, stephen barncard wrote: And they've dropped support and announced to everyone (yesterday) that it's not secure. Sounds like the beginning of the end of Java to me Apple may well have done that, but as they represent a smallish proportion of people using Java global

Re: Apple

And they've dropped support and announced to everyone (yesterday) that it's not secure. Sounds like the beginning of the end of Java to me On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > It seems that Apple have the ability to block the use of programs installed > on a user's comput

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