Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread James Hale
Well thank you all for your replies. wasn't sure about using tokens (token 1 of word) as I wasn't sure of the overhead. however the alternative was to remove all pesky punctuation before running through my script. I thought I would try both. first script replaced . , ? ! ; : both within and at

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Scott Morrow
Mark, not even a token effort? -- Scott Morrow On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Jim- > > Monday, August 13, 2012, 5:31:07 PM, you wrote: > >> So, how many words could a word chunk chunk, if a word chunk could chunk >> words? > > groan. > > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ah

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim- Monday, August 13, 2012, 5:31:07 PM, you wrote: > So, how many words could a word chunk chunk, if a word chunk could chunk > words? groan. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pl

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Chipp Walters
Bob, I 100% agree with what you say. Each person needs different kinds of motivation. I used to have a brillant game designer who was unmatched in our company. Still, every 6 months or so I needed to go in to his office and have a heart to heart regarding his work ethic. Then, he was good for anot

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Jim Hurley
> > Message: 21 > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:00:28 -0500 > From: "J. Landman Gay" > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Word chunk includes punctuation > Message-ID: <502978fc.5080...@hyperactivesw.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 8/13/12 4:45 PM, Bob

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Dupuis
Peter, That would be great. Even better would be to post as a user comment to the Live Code Dictionary so the correct information is available to everyone who look up "token" in the Dictionary. Or if you prefer to post here, would you mind if I or someone then added it to the Dictionary entry? O

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Peter Haworth
I've used tokens quite a bit for parsing sqlite statements and the docs are definitely incomplete. I'll try to rebuild what I learned and publish it to the list. Pete lcSQL Software On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Hmmm... odd again that > put token

Re: RevZip issue

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
I'm going to say that it is your AV software that is doing this. It is probably a setting in your AV that prevents dll's from being in a zip attachment or web download. Bob On Aug 13, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Chip Thomas wrote: > The zip file contains python files and dlls. It seems that these are

Re: RevZip issue

2012-08-13 Thread Chip Thomas
The zip file contains python files and dlls. It seems that these are the files being removed. Then, downloading and extracting the zip file manually works fine. But, it's not necessarily consistent. So I was thinking that this could be a Windows antivirus problem. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:25

Re: This handler does not work in 5.5.1

2012-08-13 Thread Ken Ray
On Aug 13, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Looks like he is closing the Tools Stack and selecting > the Browse Tool... > > By any chance is him testing his stack inside the IDE? > > He could test his stack, as well, using StackRunner: > > http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/livecode

Re: [ANN] DatePicker for LiveCode

2012-08-13 Thread Ken Ray
On Aug 13, 2012, at 4:56 PM, FlexibleLearning wrote: > > Now available at http://www.flexiblelearning.com/datepicker > > About... > > DatePicker for LiveCode is a cross-platform plug-in library solution for Mac > OS, Linux and Windows, designed to handle date selection and validation as > well

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Paul Dupuis writes: > > The documentation also doesn't mention that ? works as a token per > Mark's post, so perhaps my caution is unwarranted. You know, I could swear I tried this before posting, and I've still got the commands in my message box history to prove it, but I'm getting different r

Re: revOpenDatabase - can't connect

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
If this is an On-Rev SQL database, you have to enable remote access to the database, and then define which IP addresses you are allowed to connect remotely from. Bob On Aug 13, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Dan Friedman wrote: > Greetings! > > I am trying to connect to a mySQL database on a couple of r

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Dam yer good! Bob On Aug 13, 2012, at 3:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 8/13/12 4:45 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> Seems period is the only common punctuation that is not considered a >> token. How odd is that?? > > Probably to get the right results when the word is a decimal number or a url. >

Re: revOpenDatabase - can't connect

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Dan, Although it looks like you can access your database directly, you might want to check with the hosting company that this is meant to be possible. Try creating a new database user in CPanel (if that's what you use) and make sure it has the right permissions. Which version of Revolutio

Re: revOpenDatabase - can't connect

2012-08-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Dan, most server do not allow remote access for security reasons. Only access from local scripts are allowed in that case. So you have to check if you can enable remote db access on that servers. Regards, Matthias Am 14.08.2012 um 00:04 schrieb Dan Friedman : > Greetings! > > I am trying to

revOpenDatabase - can't connect

2012-08-13 Thread Dan Friedman
Greetings! I am trying to connect to a mySQL database on a couple of remote websites. I can connect to them via a php script run from the server so tDatabaseAddress is "localhost". However, every attempt to connect via LiveCode (in the IDE) fails. I have checked with the host that the addres

[OT] Lost some mail

2012-08-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
If you wrote me privately today and I didn't respond, please resend. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.run

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/13/12 4:45 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Seems period is the only common punctuation that is not considered a token. How odd is that?? Probably to get the right results when the word is a decimal number or a url. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Soft

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Seems period is the only common punctuation that is not considered a token. How odd is that?? Bob On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > The documentation also doesn't mention that ? works as a token per > Mark's post, so perhaps my caution is unwarranted. > > Silly me, I believed

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Dupuis
The documentation also doesn't mention that ? works as a token per Mark's post, so perhaps my caution is unwarranted. Silly me, I believed the documentation! On 8/13/2012 5:01 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Hmmm... odd again that > put token one of word one of "test1!" > > gives me > "test1" without t

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hmmm... odd again that put token one of word one of "test1!" gives me "test1" without the exclamation mark. The documentation states: 1. Each of the following characters is a token: =, +, -, *, /, [, ], (, ), {, }, <, >, and comma (,). The exclamation mark is not one of those (unless I am tok

[ANN] DatePicker for LiveCode

2012-08-13 Thread FlexibleLearning
Now available at http://www.flexiblelearning.com/datepicker About... DatePicker for LiveCode is a cross-platform plug-in library solution for Mac OS, Linux and Windows, designed to handle date selection and validation as well as webpage calendars in your own work. Single, multiple or date ranges

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Paul- Monday, August 13, 2012, 1:32:58 PM, you wrote: > One caution: token does not separate . (period), ! (exclamation mark), > or ? (question mark). If you are really trying to process English text, > you probably will want to write your own punctuation remover as it can > then figure the diffe

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Should give us all pause. I think this applies to all of us. In fact, it inspired one of the greatest poets and philosophers in history to say, "Vanity, vanity, all is vanity and vexation of spirit." I tend to think he felt that way because he "didn't finish the book" as it were. Bob On Aug

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 8/13/2012 12:13 PM, Ken Ray wrote: > On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:10 AM, James Hale wrote: > >> Is this a bug? > No, it's a 'convention'… it mimics the way that HyperCard recognized a > "word"; as stated in the Dictionary under "word": > > "A word is delimited by one or more spaces, tabs, or returns,

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Chipp Walters wrote > > Great article. Thanks! > You are welcome! I was looking for in the archives for this mail list, because I am sure that we had discussed before these same topics highlighted in the article... but could not find the exact message thread. Al -- View this message in co

Re: Async input from externals, or MIDI input?

2012-08-13 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Paul If you take a look at the iOS external sdk it is possible to use the LCObjectPost method to send a message to an object from any thread. What this means is probably 95% of the work has been done to implement this for desktop too and RunRev need to just put in a few more resources to fin

Re: This handler does not work in 5.5.1

2012-08-13 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Looks like he is closing the Tools Stack and selecting the Browse Tool... By any chance is him testing his stack inside the IDE? He could test his stack, as well, using StackRunner: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/livecode/downloads/StackRunner.htm Al -- View this message in context: htt

Re: Need beta testers for new database library

2012-08-13 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Richard Gaskin wrote > > On the contrary, one of the great things about the US is that our > population has lowered the bar for English competency. ;) > > Your English is very good; your posts here are among the more enjoyable. > > If you have an interest in writing anything for LiveCode Journ

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Lynn Fredricks wrote: On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Read and save this article about Steve Jobs. I could assure you that his "management style" will find many followers in the short place and near future. We should expect disastrous results in more than one case... http://ww

RE: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Read and save this article about Steve Jobs. > I could assure you that his "management style" > will find many followers in the short place and near future. > > We should expect disastrous results in more than one case... > > http://www.wired.

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Mike Kerner
Proving once again that management styles and people and governmental structures can vary widely and still achieve..and fail. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and

Async input from externals, or MIDI input?

2012-08-13 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
I'm still using Rev 3.5, partly because I've been holding out until LC includes direct support for MIDI. Has that happened yet? If not, did LC add (over Rev) any way for a separate thread (or an OS callback) in an external to cause a message to be sent within LC? One could never do this in Rev, bu

Re: This handler does not work in 5.5.1

2012-08-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Michael Kristensen wrote: This handler does not work in 5.5.1 on preOpenStack choose browse tool close stack revtools end preOpenStack Any idea? The came up a few days ago - Mark Schonewille provided the tip to use a timer for that:

Re: This handler does not work in 5.5.1

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Hibbert
Works OK for me… LC 5.5.1 - Mac Lion Paul On 2012-08-13, at 11:46 AM, Michael Kristensen wrote: > Hi there > > This handler does not work in 5.5.1 > > on preOpenStack > choose browse tool > close stack revtools > end preOpenStack > > > Any idea? > > Thanks Michael > ___

This handler does not work in 5.5.1

2012-08-13 Thread Michael Kristensen
Hi there This handler does not work in 5.5.1 on preOpenStack choose browse tool close stack revtools end preOpenStack Any idea? Thanks Michael ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsub

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: Ahah! So concatenation is not a very high priority when evaluating statements. I learn something new every day! I can see though why it would be like that. I could also ask for: word 1 of "one two" & word 1 of "three four" and expect "one three". One more argument for grou

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Ahah! So concatenation is not a very high priority when evaluating statements. I learn something new every day! I can see though why it would be like that. I could also ask for: word 1 of "one two" & word 1 of "three four" and expect "one three". One more argument for grouping with parentheses

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have to think there is some kind of compromise. I work in a place where almost no one is watched or managed, and I can tell you that all but the very diligent and self motivated really do much. (I hope nobody who works here reads this!) Having spend 6 years in the Navy, I came to realize that

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob Sneidar writes: > > Wait, tab too? Odd since > put word one of "test1" & tab & "test2" > gives me > "test1test2" LOL. Yes, it does. You're asking for (word one of "test1") & tab & "test2" -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net __

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Wait, tab too? Odd since put word one of "test1" & tab & "test2" gives me "test1 test2" Bob On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Ken Ray wrote: > "A word is delimited by one or more spaces, tabs, or returns, or enclosed by > double quotes. A single word can contain multiple characters and multiple

Re: ZD article on hypercard as well

2012-08-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/13/12 11:40 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: For some reason I cannot seem to comment on ZDNet articles, even when logged in. The Submit button does nothing. That's farther than I got. I have a login but it wouldn't recognize it as valid. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactive

Re: ZD article on hypercard as well

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
For some reason I cannot seem to comment on ZDNet articles, even when logged in. The Submit button does nothing. Bob On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: >> http://www.zdnet.com/could-the-ios-app-be-the-21st-century-hyp >> ercard-stack-702508/ > > Articles like this are opp

Re: HC 25 years old today

2012-08-13 Thread Colin Holgate
I can't remember the exact values, this was 20 years ago I was doing that! You would type "debug hintbits" in the message box, with some values, then do a compact stack. Apparently it's described in the Dan Winkler/Scott Kamins HyperCard book. The text finding worked like this: unmark all card

Re: Need beta testers for new database library

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
True dat! LOL! Bob On Aug 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > On the contrary, one of the great things about the US is that our population > has lowered the bar for English competency. ;) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Chipp Walters
Great article. Thanks! On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Read and save this article about Steve Jobs. > I could assure you that his "management style" > will find many followers in the short place and > near future. > > We should expect disastrous results in more > than o

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Ken Ray
On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:10 AM, James Hale wrote: > Is this a bug? No, it's a 'convention'… it mimics the way that HyperCard recognized a "word"; as stated in the Dictionary under "word": "A word is delimited by one or more spaces, tabs, or returns, or enclosed by double quotes. A single word c

Re: ZD article on hypercard as well

2012-08-13 Thread René Micout
Done in France ! ;-) Le 13 août 2012 à 16:46, "Lynn Fredricks" a écrit : >> http://www.zdnet.com/could-the-ios-app-be-the-21st-century-hyp >> ercard-stack-702508/ > > Articles like this are opportunties. I hope everyone will have something to > say about LiveCode and how it's the 21st cent

Re: HC 25 years old today

2012-08-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/12/12 9:52 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/HyperCard/message/2159 (Why the HyperCard group is stored among the Finance groups in yahoo???) Good question. Paul (the list moderator) tried to get it changed for a long time but Yahoo never responded. -- Ja

Re: HC 25 years old today

2012-08-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/13/12 12:42 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Sunday, August 12, 2012, 10:26:02 AM, you wrote: I admit I choked up a bit when I read the article. I wouldn't be here if it hadn't been for HyperCard. I seem to be playing straight man for you quite a bit lately, but... OK - where would you be

Re: Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Wieder
James- Monday, August 13, 2012, 8:10:57 AM, you wrote: > If not, has anyone got a workaround that doesn't require me > testing for a punctuation character at the end of every word or > replacing them all with spaces? Token 1 of word 5 of... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: Berkeley Cybersalon Welcomes Hypercard Team

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Björnke- Monday, August 13, 2012, 4:24:10 AM, you wrote: > Did you go? how was it? The video of the evening (that's me in the first row wearing a runrev hat) will be posted soon to fora.tv. I'll try to remember to post the url when it goes up. On a personal level it was interesting to me for a c

Word chunk includes punctuation

2012-08-13 Thread James Hale
I haven't noticed this before but getting the word chunk of some text returns punctuation with the chunk. For example, consider the following string: "My this is a nice, albeit short test. But it will do." Now if I ask for word 4 I get "a" as expected. If is ask for word 5 I get "nice," whi

RE: ZD article on hypercard as well

2012-08-13 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> http://www.zdnet.com/could-the-ios-app-be-the-21st-century-hyp > ercard-stack-702508/ Articles like this are opportunties. I hope everyone will have something to say about LiveCode and how it's the 21st century Hypercard (for iOS, Android, desktop, etc) in reply to articles like this. Best

Re: HC 25 years old today

2012-08-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: > On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> >I suspect that's a lightweight form of bitmap index, but it'll be >> interesting to see how it's done. > > When we were creating the Expanded Books series we had some > challenges in fitting the longer books onto a fl

Re: HC 25 years old today

2012-08-13 Thread Colin Holgate
When we were creating the Expanded Books series we had some challenges in fitting the longer books onto a floppy disk. We made the files as .SIT, that helped, but still longer books were a tight squeeze. One trick I did was to set the hint bits to zero, that alone would save enough space that a

Re: HC 25 years old today

2012-08-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: One of the interesting things Bill Atkinson said this evening is that the source code for HyperCard has been donated to the Computer Museum. You can download the code for MacPaint and MacDraw which were also donated, but the HC source code isn't yet downloadable. Bill was optim

Re: Hilite pattern in list field doesn't scroll correctly

2012-08-13 Thread Björnke von Gierke
ah i missunderstood sorry. On 11.08.2012, at 18:52, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 8/11/12 11:08 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: >> don't set the hilitepattern, set the backgroundpattern instead. > > > I want the field background color to be black. I want the hilited line in the > list to be the cus

Re: RevZip issue

2012-08-13 Thread Björnke von Gierke
What is ommited. Assuming with components you actually mean files, is there a specific type of file? Maybe only big ones, or what? On 09.08.2012, at 22:17, Chip Thomas wrote: > *Hello, > > I have a zipped folder of components that our stack downloads and then > unzips using revZip commands. >

Re: Berkeley Cybersalon Welcomes Hypercard Team

2012-08-13 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Did you go? how was it? On 09.08.2012, at 17:54, Mark Wieder wrote: > It's only been 25 years since Bill Atkinson and his elite Apple team > created HyperCard -- the hypermedia system that made programs like > Myst and You Don't Know Jack possible before the World Wide Web or > the founder of Fac

AW: how to create an individual bg img per cd?

2012-08-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Klaus, yep, that's what I thought (feared), thanks for your helpful clarifying Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus on-rev > Gesendet: Montag, 13. August 2012 12:34 > An: How

Re: how to create an individual bg img per cd?

2012-08-13 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Tiemo, Am 13.08.2012 um 12:24 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB : > Hi, > > With fields in a bg I can have different field content on each cd. Setting > the shared hilite of a bg button to false, the button can have different > states on each cd. > > How can I have different images (filenames of the

how to create an individual bg img per cd?

2012-08-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi, With fields in a bg I can have different field content on each cd. Setting the shared hilite of a bg button to false, the button can have different states on each cd. How can I have different images (filenames of the image) on a bg on each cd? I didn't found anything like "shared image". Any

ZD article on hypercard as well

2012-08-13 Thread Maarten Koopmans
http://www.zdnet.com/could-the-ios-app-be-the-21st-century-hypercard-stack-702508/ I see a marketing opportunity, especially with Colin's book out as well (nice one Colin!) --Maarten ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pleas

Re: HC 25 years old today

2012-08-13 Thread René Micout
Le 12 août 2012 à 19:26, J. Landman Gay a écrit : > On 8/12/12 11:03 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> Someone on the HC list noted this. >> >> >> Hypercard's 25th anniversary. > > This link was attached: > http://www.tuaw.com/tag/hypercard > > There are some nice links back to RunRev. >