Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Pete
OK, now I know this is probably going to resurrect some painful memories but I haven't been a member of this group for long enough to understand the reason behind "the forbidden word that begins with ch". I mean, "ch" is pretty tasty and quite nutritious in my experience Pete Molly's Reven

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Terry Judd
On 13/10/2011, at 03:42 AM, Andrew Meit wrote: > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:55 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > >> Could you perhaps use thumbnails for initial button presentation and then >> pull in the detailed layers as needed? > -- Thats what am trying to avoid having to do.

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > So far as I know, "beef" is not on the list of banned topics. Cheese > however... Uh-oh, you mentioned "beef and "cheese" in the same email -- now that's not kosher -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbri

Re: Another example of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Ooooh... a train track builder! Bob On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:01 AM, James Hurley wrote: > Colin, > > I was never able to get 9 pool balls to move smoothly. It works but not > smoothly. > > Jim Hurley > > >> Colin Holgate wrote: >> >> I should update my first Rev stack sometime: >> >> http:

Re: BBEdit language module for LiveCode

2011-10-12 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Devin Asay wrote: > I'm on 9.6.3. I haven't used the Rev language plugin in a few months, and > I'm guessing that one of the recent updates broke it. > I heard from someone that an update in BBEdit caused problems with the language module. I still use version 8 s

Strange results from executing a locale command

2011-10-12 Thread Pete
I was given the following code by RR support to execute a locale command in OS X: *put* line 1 of shell("defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLocale") into$LANG *put* uniDecode(uniEncode(shell("locale -k LC_NUMERIC"), "utf8")) intomyFormats After execution, myFormats contains: decimal_point=".

Re: BBEdit language module for LiveCode

2011-10-12 Thread Devin Asay
I'm on 9.6.3. I haven't used the Rev language plugin in a few months, and I'm guessing that one of the recent updates broke it. DNA On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:38 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > what version of BB Edit are you using? I didn't upgrade (to 9?) last time, > and the plug works fine for me

Re: BBEdit language module for LiveCode

2011-10-12 Thread stephen barncard
what version of BB Edit are you using? I didn't upgrade (to 9?) last time, and the plug works fine for me. On 12 October 2011 15:27, Devin Asay wrote: > Is anyone using Trevor Devore's Revolution language module for BBEdit? I've > used it for several years, but now it is crashing BBEdit every t

Re: User Preferences

2011-10-12 Thread Gerry
Just to clarify, I'm not the original poster on the thread :) My point was - if I am using this software and I have an unstable internet connection where my machine's IP could change during the day, it would report to the authentication server that the same reg code is coming from multiple IPs.

BBEdit language module for LiveCode

2011-10-12 Thread Devin Asay
Is anyone using Trevor Devore's Revolution language module for BBEdit? I've used it for several years, but now it is crashing BBEdit every time I try to edit a .irev or .lc file. It stops crashing if I uninstall the BBEdit plugin. Does anyone still use this? Trevor? Thanks, Devin Devin Asay H

Standalones and Opening stack via go url...?

2011-10-12 Thread John Patten
Hi All! I created a splash stack standalone that opens up a sub stack (Main App) stored in a local folder. From this stack, (Main App), I wish to open up a stack stored on a web server using the: go stack URL "http://www.server.com/mysubstack"; Here's the script I'm using in the Main App stack

Re: User Preferences

2011-10-12 Thread Kee Nethery
On Oct 11, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Gerry wrote: > My ISP gives out a new IP whenever I re-connect after e.g. a router restart. > So that wouldn't work. Not sure what you are saying. Your computer when you use your software might have different IPs or your server is always moving around from IP t

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
So far as I know, "beef" is not on the list of banned topics. Cheese however... Bob On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > My current "beef" (sorry about that word to those on the RunRev list who > eschew cow meat) ___ use-liveco

RE: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread AndyP
It's interesting reading through this thead that (mostly) Linux coders want more, IOS and Android coders want more and Windows and Mac coders want more. So what's happening here? Are we naturally greedy? - No I don't think so...well maybe a little. Are our expectations too high? - Prehaps... but

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin wrote: Is there a chance that either Linux isn't increasing, or that it's at the expense of Windows users? Or do the number add up to more than 100%.? See here: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/09/13/mac-sales-increase-about-six-percent-september/ Definitely coming from Windows, which h

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Felker
True, except that web was sold as 'working' whereas Android was clearly in development. It is web that screwed me and that should have been, IMO a priority to be fixed because it is being toted as a working deployment option and it clearly is not. Web happened to be the most important thing to

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Colin Holgate
Is there a chance that either Linux isn't increasing, or that it's at the expense of Windows users? Or do the number add up to more than 100%.? See here: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/09/13/mac-sales-increase-about-six-percent-september/ On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

RE: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Ralph DiMola
Look, I could cry all day long about Android and iOS parity, but. The boys and girls at RR have been amazingly responsive to my bug reports and requests. I personally have 2 or 3 bug fixes and a feature request implemented in a time frame that we could only wish for from other SW vendors(Adobe,

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/12/11 1:11 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: My current "beef" (sorry about that word to those on the RunRev list who eschew cow meat) with RunRev is with somebody's appalling English grammar and logic; Seems to be common in our field. Someone gave me this tee shirt:

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, You're not obliged to buy the subscription. You can just buy those components that are important to you, when you need them. Download a trial copy, test it, and don't buy an upgrade if you don't like it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread David Glass
I was just told it's 3 months of updates, then there are "minor" and "major" upgrade charges outside of that 3-month window. Where did you see 1 year? Or are you referring to the Complete subscription product? On 10/12/2011 11:17 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: There is a complication with LiveCod

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Colin Holgate
There is a complication with LiveCode, in that you're paying for a year of updates. So, if a new version does something you would find useful, that isn't in the version you own, and it was implied that within a year there would be an upgrade that did some things that are vital to you, you might

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/12/2011 08:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: much. Linux development at RunRev is a limited priority for them, and while I may prefer it otherwise at least the reasons are understandable. I am well aware of that, and I understand the reasons why; and, currently (and the important word i

Re: Another examples of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

2011-10-12 Thread James Hurley
These are exciting times for RR. I am grateful to all who have responded to this thread--Bernd, Bob, Kevin, Jacque, Ken, et. al. And special thanks to Richard for taking the time for his expansive discussion of the new features. THANK YOU. I am grateful, but. I am not satisfied. I would l

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Keith Clarke
>> If you're layering the images, could you use a snapshot to contain the set >> of all underlying layers as a new layer is added? > -- No, I need dynamic showing/hiding as a user peels on and off the layers to > study how the art is applied to the page. But surely, at any given time, what the u

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andrew Meit wrote: > Jan, > > cool, but I still need 295 large images and buttons on a card > for each unique layer btn, right? if so, hits the ram wall again... Beyond the limits of RAM we have in nearly everything short of a supercomputer, on what monitor will you be able to display 295 image

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Well I have to say that Runrev's track record of improving things > (eventually) is quite good. I would have to agree. I can sympathize with the OP's feelings, but here in my own office I've been buying software long enough that I have a policy: I only pay for what I ca

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Vector graphics is a tough nut to crack. Think postscript. Perhaps the better approach would be for someone to make an external that tied into a real postscript library (but then there is licensing) and provided some fairly basic commands that allowed the user to programmatically create real vec

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/12/2011 07:49 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Well I have to say that Runrev's track record of improving things (eventually) is quite good. They have addressed many if not most of the major concerns of the developers (and by major I mean a LOT of people want and need the changes) as well as addre

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 10/12/2011 07:44 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> I liked blingingly fast better. I thought you were coining a new phrase! >> "It's not just BLINDingly fast, it's BLINGingly fast!!!" >> > > It does have a certain resonance . . . > > Possi

Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

2011-10-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Jim, Thanks very much for the donation!!! Dinner on me during the next conference! :-) I will add two more libraries during the next week... stay tunned. :-) cheers andre On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: > Andre, > > Glad to support your social suite efforts. > A good addi

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Andrew, Am 12.10.2011 um 18:47 schrieb Andrew Meit: > Jan, > > cool, but I still need 295 large images and buttons on a card for each unique > layer btn, right? if so, hits the ram wall again... if you need to show all of these images at the same time, then you are obviously erm... licked!

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/12/2011 07:44 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I liked blingingly fast better. I thought you were coining a new phrase! "It's not just BLINDingly fast, it's BLINGingly fast!!!" It does have a certain resonance . . . Possibly "blingingly fast" could be taken to mean "so fast that it impresses one

Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

2011-10-12 Thread Jim Lambert
Andre, Glad to support your social suite efforts. A good addition to LC developers' toolset. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferenc

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well I have to say that Runrev's track record of improving things (eventually) is quite good. They have addressed many if not most of the major concerns of the developers (and by major I mean a LOT of people want and need the changes) as well as addressing some of the minor changes (linux) when

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Meit
Jan, cool, but I still need 295 large images and buttons on a card for each unique layer btn, right? if so, hits the ram wall again... andrew On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:55 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > The trick is to use an image, set the icon of the button to the id of said

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I liked blingingly fast better. I thought you were coining a new phrase! "It's not just BLINDingly fast, it's BLINGingly fast!!!" Bob On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > Oops. I meant (feature parity would happen "blindingly fast"). It's hard > to type through the tears of bein

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Meit
On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:55 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > Could you perhaps use thumbnails for initial button presentation and then > pull in the detailed layers as needed? -- Thats what am trying to avoid having to do. > > If you're layering the images, could you use a snaps

Re: What does 'shadows' mean?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
This is why I tell people to always listen to what I mean, and not what I say. Bob On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Keith Clarke wrote: > ...ah, nice try Francis but I too have not only a dictionary but also the > higher authority - Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon', which closes with > the s

Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

2011-10-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Maarten, What I call "Social Network Library Suite" is a collection of loosely coupled libraries that are mostly related to internet stuff. I am throwing all kinds of libraries there and releasing them when there is something usable available. Right now I've released a minimal JSON library and a F

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/11/11 11:14 PM, Roger Eller wrote: Every release has stated "no changes" in the release notes for Android. Why even bother to have release notes for anything but iOS? The 5.0 release notes list a number of changes for Android (there are several sections on changes, make sure you read th

Re: What does 'shadows' mean?

2011-10-12 Thread Keith Clarke
...ah, nice try Francis but I too have not only a dictionary but also the higher authority - Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon', which closes with the song Eclipse... "and everything under the sun is in tune but the sun is eclipsed by the moon" ...boom, boom...boom, boom... So, in the spirit

Re: Another examples of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

2011-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/12/11 8:10 AM, James Hurley wrote: I would like to see a little help from RR on these new features--by way of a demonstration stack perhaps. We all would. Richard's explanation was very good and with a few guidelines I think we'll all catch on eventually and jaws will drop. I know that

Re: Another examples of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

2011-10-12 Thread BNig
Hi Richard, thank you for outlining the architecture of the new 5.0 LiveCode graphics engine. That shurely helps to take advantage of it. And as you pointed out we will have to experiment to find a setting that suits a particular situation. It just happens that Jim brought up the problem of moving

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Davis
Ahh! Very clever! It seems this old dog is still learning new tricks. ;-) Phil On 10/12/11 2:23 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Hi Phil, The trick is to use an image, set the icon of the button to the id of said image, and then change the filename of the image; your button will automagically be re

Re: What does 'shadows' mean?

2011-10-12 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Keith wrote : ...did you mean 'eclipse', Francis? Keith, "occult" has three forms : 1 (noun) 2 (adjective) 3 ( verb) As "shadows" was used in the VERB form, I suggested replacing it with the VERB form of occult , which means what I said it means. Latin occultus,

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread william humphrey
Gerry - that's funny and makes your point as I wonder why bother with IOS and android and web deployment when all I want is database access to work better and better and, of course, specifically the database I use (Valentina of course). Easier making of stand-alones with the windows and MacOS diffe

Re: Another examples of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
James Hurley wrote: Thank you for this Bernd. It is going to take me a while to digest these new graphic features in 5.0. I confess I am unaware of the interaction between RR code and the display on the screen. That's probably important. :-) Like you, I don't see much improvement of 5.0 over

Re: Another examples of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

2011-10-12 Thread James Hurley
Thank you for this Bernd. It is going to take me a while to digest these new graphic features in 5.0. I confess I am unaware of the interaction between RR code and the display on the screen. That's probably important. :-) Like you, I don't see much improvement of 5.0 over 4.6 in animation. The

Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

2011-10-12 Thread Maarten Koopmans
How much do you need, and what will you build for that? And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once its feature-complete? --Maarten PS:great work! On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Folks, > > Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraisi

Re: iPhone’s ‘Maps’ application

2011-10-12 Thread Maarten Koopmans
I'd be interested too. Could you add pins to those maps as well? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:13 AM, John Dixon wrote: > > > This from the liveCode website... > > http://www.runrev.com/products/mobile-deployment/iphone-ipad/supported-features/ > > We’ve added support for launching URLs, which as wel

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > You are not alone in your disappointment regarding Android, Linux, 64-bit, > web player. Every release has stated "no changes" in the release notes for > Android. Why even bother to have release notes for anything but iOS? > > Kevin said a f

Re: Another example of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

2011-10-12 Thread Kevin Miller
It should work fine now as there is new rendering on all platforms. While OpenGL is iOS only (OpenGL on Android will follow very shortly as a free 5.0.1 patch) the software renderer is much better, available on all plats and should very comfortably give you what you need with the 9 pool balls. You

Re: LiveCode 5.0 Released

2011-10-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/12/2011 10:40 AM, stephen barncard wrote: "Grammar Guy" I take that as a compliment . . . :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preference

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Jan Schenkel
Hi Phil, The trick is to use an image, set the icon of the button to the id of said image, and then change the filename of the image; your button will automagically be repainted when you change the filename of the image control. As a quick test, I created a stack with a button and an image; I n

Re: User Preferences

2011-10-12 Thread Scott Morrow
Yes, thank you Kee. That was fun new ideas for me. -Scott Morrow On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Phil Davis wrote: > Thanks Kee! I love this list. > Phil Davis > > > On 10/11/11 9:16 PM, Kee Nethery wrote: >> The common way to do this is to do a simple GET to your server. Perhaps use >> the u

Re: LiveCode 5.0 Released

2011-10-12 Thread stephen barncard
"Grammar Guy" On 11 October 2011 17:06, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Richmond is more than that. > He is a Scott! :-D > > > Jim Kanter wrote: > > > > Or a Vulcan. > > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > >> I think I has underwent a realization there: Richmond is a c

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread AndyP
Yep dissapointed, It's a big issue jump from release 4.6.4 to the big 5! Most of the changes seem to be for the IOS platform or at least driven by their requirements (faster graphics for games). Their are still a lot of us out there who's income stream is from the desktop and office environment...

Re: 295 png import images

2011-10-12 Thread Keith Clarke
Do you need to have all 295 layers presented at once in full resolution? Could you perhaps use thumbnails for initial button presentation and then pull in the detailed layers as needed? If you're layering the images, could you use a snapshot to contain the set of all underlying layers as a new