color histogram?

Hey guys, I'm building another education app for a state school system, and this time I'm creating a skinnable themed desktop, which kids can add their own wallpaper to. I'm wondering if anyone has a quick routine to calculate the 'main' colors of an image-- so I could automatically theme the butto

Re: Finding the main stack

On 7/7/11 10:44 PM, Pete wrote: I'm beginning to think the same thing. However the dictionary entry for "the target" says it resolves to the object that "originally received the message" and since the start using command came from the preOpenCard handler of a card in the application stack, I too

Re: defining and using globals in an application

On 7/7/11 7:53 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Thursday, July 7, 2011, 8:57:58 AM, you wrote: On 7/7/11 1:07 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Once again, no, it doesn't work that way. Global variables are *never* out of scope, so you can *not* have global and local variables with the same name. You

Re: Finding the main stack

I'm beginning to think the same thing. However the dictionary entry for "the target" says it resolves to the object that "originally received the message" and since the start using command came from the preOpenCard handler of a card in the application stack, I took that to mean the card that issue

Re: Finding the main stack

Pete- Thursday, July 7, 2011, 6:12:32 PM, you wrote: > When the app starts up, I issue a "start using" command to bring in my > library handlers. I have a libraryStack handler which needs to get hold of > the value of a custom property in the main stack of the handler that issued > the "start us

Re: Finding the main stack

Is 'the effective filename of this stack' of any use? or the long id of this stack ? Jim Ault Las Vegas On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Pete wrote: Got a slightly convoluted situation where I need to get hold of the main stack for an application. When the app starts up, I issue a "start usin

Re: Finding the main stack

You could set a custom property in the library stack when it's brought into use. start using stack "myLibStack" set the cMainstack of stack "myLibstack" to the short name of me Terry... On 8/07/11 11:12 AM, "Pete" wrote: > Got a slightly convoluted situation where I need to get hold of the ma

Finding the main stack

Got a slightly convoluted situation where I need to get hold of the main stack for an application. When the app starts up, I issue a "start using" command to bring in my library handlers. I have a libraryStack handler which needs to get hold of the value of a custom property in the main stack of

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Jacque- Thursday, July 7, 2011, 8:57:58 AM, you wrote: > On 7/7/11 1:07 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> Once again, no, it doesn't work that way. Global variables are *never* >> out of scope, so you can *not* have global and local variables with >> the same name. > You can if you turn off explicitVar

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Bob- Thursday, July 7, 2011, 9:11:51 AM, you wrote: > I don't think it's a bug IMHO. How can a variable in the same > script have 2 scopes? How would the app know which you were talking > about when you used it? Well, see, that's where I think it's a bug. If there's a global xyzzy in memory I d

Re: Using linkText

Thanks Ken. Seems like linkText is the way to go - it's just awkward to maintain. I was hoping there might be something like a right click that would bring up a dialog to insert the linkText, kinda like you see in a lot of WYSIWIG html editors. I guess I could put that together pretty easily. Pe

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Re: Using linkText

On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Pete wrote: > Thanks, hadn't noticed that. But it just seems to make the text a link or > not, no way to specify what the link should be. > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose of linkText. What I want to do is > have each link go to a specific card in the stack

Re: Using linkText

Thanks Jim, I'll give that whirl. Pete Molly's Revenge On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jim Ault wrote: > On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Pete wrote: > > Is there an easy way to set/get the linkText of a chunk of text in a field >> other than by script? I don't thi

Re: Using linkText

Thanks, hadn't noticed that. But it just seems to make the text a link or not, no way to specify what the link should be. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose of linkText. What I want to do is have each link go to a specific card in the stack Pete Molly's Revenge

Re: Using linkText

On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Pete wrote: Is there an easy way to set/get the linkText of a chunk of text in a field other than by script? I don't think the message box works - if I select the text then click on the message box, the text is no longer selected - so right now I have buttons o

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Never mind - I got bitten by the problems of the Application Browser not always refreshing. After I hot the refresh button, the library stack turned up. Pete Molly's Revenge On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Ken Ray wrote: > > > If you issue a "start using" comma

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

OK, this is definitely odd. I just double checked and I do not see my library stack in the LC Application browser. This is after issuing the start using command from the preOpenCard handler of the first card in my application stack. Using LC 4.6.2 on OS X 10.6.8. I know the stack is loaded beca

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Interesting indeed. I don't see my library stack in the Application browser, just in the stacksinuse and mainstacks, but sounds like you see it in your Application Browser? Pete Molly's Revenge On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Interesting.

Re: Using linkText

Under the Text menu there is an option "Link" (or "Link Text") you can use that while the text is selected.. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription pref

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

> If you issue a "start using" command, the named stack doesn't show up in the > IDE, but that would mean moving the support stacks out of the current main > stack Sorry, Pete... doing a "start using" loads the stack into memory but it is also shown in the App Browser (same as the "there is

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Interesting. I thought "start using" only enabled scripts, but apparently objects from the library stack are also available. And visibility of the library stacks appears to be limited to the Application Browser (not in the Windows menu or the openStacks). @Mark Schonewille -- I've been down the

Using linkText

Is there an easy way to set/get the linkText of a chunk of text in a field other than by script? I don't think the message box works - if I select the text then click on the message box, the text is no longer selected - so right now I have buttons on the card which set and get the linkText of what

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

If you issue a "start using" command, the named stack doesn't show up in the IDE, but that would mean moving the support stacks out of the current main stack Pete Molly's Revenge On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Kennan Ray wrote: > You could load the stack in

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Try this bit of code: on haveMyCake eat it too end haveMyCake Sorry I couldn't resist. :-) On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Is there any way to "hide" a stack from the LiveCode IDE while keeping the > stack available to other open stacks? I'm not referring to visibility, b

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Just tried that - it still turns up in the Application Browser (and all its substacks). Pete Molly's Revenge On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Kennan Ray wrote: > You could load the stack into memory nut not open it by using the trick: > > get (there is a stack )

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

You could load the stack into memory nut not open it by using the trick: get (there is a stack ) This would put it in the "mainstacks" but NOT in the "openStacks". I think that would hide it from the Windows menu but may not keep it out of the Application Browser (I'm not at a computer so I ca

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Seems like you might have to do something similar to what the IDE does when you set the preference to exclude IDE stacks from those listings (if that's even possible with non-IDE code). Phil On 7/7/11 12:38 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Is there any way to "hide" a stack from the LiveCode IDE while

Re: Tabs in custom property

Thanks Keith. I was on 4.6.0 when I got the problem - I upgraded to 4.6.2 and now it works as you described. Pete Molly's Revenge On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Keith Clarke < keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk> wrote: > Pete, > Try widening your property insp

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

I meant in conjunction with livecode server.. On 7 July 2011 11:13, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Yes, but Francis wants to use LiveCode, rather than Javascript and CSS. > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > Homepage: http://economy-x-tal

Re: Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Hi Scott, RunRev precedes stack names with "rev" to achieve this. You could do the same. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installe

Hide A Stack, But Not Hide A Stack?

Is there any way to "hide" a stack from the LiveCode IDE while keeping the stack available to other open stacks? I'm not referring to visibility, but rather inclusion in open stack lists. I have a tool stack which is built for use in the IDE that has a couple of support stacks it uses for scripts

Re: Tabs in custom property

Pete, Try widening your property inspector or testing for tabs with the right-arrow. On my Mac, on 4.6.2, I get a tab added but all text selected. If I widen the property inspector, it's clear that the new tab character is included in the selection. You can also flip the 'show gridlines' option

Tabs in custom property

I don;t seem to be able to type a tab character into a custom property value in the IDE Property Inspector. Typing the tab highlights the text before where the text should be and no tab is inserted. I can use the message box to set the cprop value but is there a secret way to type a tab directly

Re: defining and using globals in an application

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_(computer_science) Not to beat a dead horse, but I don't see the difference. I think it's a matter of semantics. According to this wiki, a scope can "contain statements and/or expressions which define an executable algorithm or part thereof;" It seems like it

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Yes, but Francis wants to use LiveCode, rather than Javascript and CSS. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Remember it's possible to make web-based applications using the right CSS and sizes that look and work very much like iPad apps, right down to having it make a launch button on the iPad desktop. Then you can do anything without permission from anyone. On 7 July 2011 10:55, Nonsanity wrote: > An

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Any my experience is that even after a provisioning profile expires, an installed app will continue to function. But you won't be able to re-install it, say after an upgrade. Apple is lacking an economic method of developing iOS apps for personal "in-house" use. ~ Chris Innanen ~ Nonsanity On

Re: how to ungroup a group of one

I gotta take a look at that - I find groups, particularly nested groups, particularly frustrating to to maintain using the IDE. Pete Molly's Revenge On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Slava, > > Chances are it is ungrouped, but just not disp

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Some comments: You only really get six months after you let your subscription expire, because that's when the provisioning file runs out. You could get anyone you know to make the IPA file for you, and to send you a new provisioning file every six months. You could also publish your app to the

Re: defining and using globals in an application

I opted to go with a combination of the the accessor route as described by Richard and the array approach described by Stephen. I have changed the format of both the array and the contents over time and, as Richard pointed out, all the code changes to deal with that were limited the Setxxx and Get

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Hi, I think that getting an Android device is very good advice. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for L

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Hi Francis, No, a personal LiveCode license for iOS is not $99 but €94. This is a BIG difference. The European LiveCode license is MUCH more expensive than the American LiveCode license. In addition to this, you have to pay an amount for the Apple Developer programme every year. I believe that

RE: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

'Flipping' has 2 P's...:-) > Are you saying that : > > I BUY an iPad (at least $500) > I BUY a software which enables me to install iOS > apps on MY iPad (at least $99) > > and then : > > I have to PAY 94 euros and change to Apple for the > privilege of running MY OWN program on MY OWN > iPa

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

On 7/7/11 12:09 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Are you saying that : I BUY an iPad (at least $500) I BUY a software which enables me to install iOS apps on MY iPad (at least $99) and then : I have to PAY 94 euros and change to Apple for the privilege of running MY OWN program on MY OWN iPad

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Mark wrote : To make apps for your own iPad and keep them running, you need to pay for the Apple dev programme every year unfortunately. My bog mindles, Mark. Are you saying that : I BUY an iPad (at least $500) I BUY a software which enables me to install iOS ap

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Nonsanity wrote: But here's the weird part that confuses many people... Even though all other scripts can be said to be "inside the LiveCode scope" they do not have access to the variables in that scope unless the specifically request access to one by name with the "global" keyword. Well, ther

Re: defining and using globals in an application

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I don't think it's a bug IMHO. How can a variable in the same script have 2 > scopes? How would the app know which you were talking about when you used > it? > > Bob Ah. Variables don't a have scope, they live inside scopes. A handler has

defining and using globals in an application

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Re: defining and using globals in an application

And if one needs to work with multiple namespaces, you can do what Trevor and some others do -- create several instances of livecode and run them at the same time. It's said that one can cut and paste objects between instances. On 7 July 2011 09:09, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I don't think she said th

Re: defining and using globals in an application

I don't think it's a bug IMHO. How can a variable in the same script have 2 scopes? How would the app know which you were talking about when you used it? Bob On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Interesting. I *did* try myself before posting, but I did this in the > same script: >

Re: defining and using globals in an application

I don't think she said that. I think she is talking about in the dev environment. Globals are global to Livecode, not just the stack, assuming you declare them in the script or handler. Obviously, in an executable, the OS is going to firewall each app from the other, unless you make a way for th

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Safe way around this is to delete all your globals upon closing your stack. Bob On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Jerry J wrote: > Mark, > > I have been bitten badly by the fact that globals persist until LC is quit. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-l

Re: defining and using globals in an application

On 7/7/11 10:36 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Jacqueline - are you saying that two different applications (as executables or as .rev/.livecode stacks) using the same global name can be referenced by one another, and share the same values? That's bizarre. No, not at all. In your own standalone, global

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Try custom properties instead. Store your values in a stack property and they will be retrievable from anywhere. Bob On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: > Hi Slava, > You wrote: >>> > You said "the value of that global not be available anywhere else," but the > value IS available

Re: defining and using globals in an application

On 7/7/11 1:07 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Once again, no, it doesn't work that way. Global variables are *never* out of scope, so you can *not* have global and local variables with the same name. You can if you turn off explicitVariables. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactive

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Hence data dictionaries. We are all creating data dictionaries for our apps as we go right? Guys? Anybody?? Bob On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Slava Paperno wrote: > If I didn't have to state that a variable is being > used as a global, would I remember that 6 months from now? If I forget, I'm >

Re: defining and using globals in an application

I think you are saying there ought to be something called a stack global, that if declared there outside any script, will be available without declaring it in any of the substacks scripts. Yes? The reason they do things the way they do is so that you do not accidentally reference a global that

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Nonsanity wrote: I actually prefer to use custom properties even for values that I want to be session-specific. The reason being that I'd rather have personal control over when the value is cleared than leave it to the environment to handle. This way I can be sure I know the contents of the vari

Re: OpenField and keeping the focus on the field

cannot attach in list. Bob On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Slava Paperno wrote: > Tom, > > I attach a stack that does what I think you were trying to do. > > Slava > >> -Original Message- >> From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- >> boun...@lists.runrev.com] On

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Chris- Thursday, July 7, 2011, 7:50:41 AM, you wrote: > Actually you can, and I just tested it to be sure. I've got two buttons, one > with "global TestVar" and a mouseup handler that adds 1 to TextVar then > answers it, and a second button that has "local TestVar" and does the same > thing. Int

defining and using globals in an application

Hi all, Well, I didn't expect such a passionate response from a lot of folk about globals and related "containers" of variable values. So point taken about globals. Very interesting ideas and concepts that I very much appreciate, because I learned something today from y'all. Stephen - interesting

defining and using globals in an application

> (I never did like having those single lines of code (aka "global TestVar") living outside of any handler in my scripts. They were - if I may use the past tense - an ugly feature of the language too...) We're all different (well, most of us). I like having a list of all variables right there, at

Re: defining and using globals in an application

I actually prefer to use custom properties even for values that I want to be session-specific. The reason being that I'd rather have personal control over when the value is cleared than leave it to the environment to handle. This way I can be sure I know the contents of the variable (as a custom pr

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: I think Scott has the right attitude. Use globals if you need them, Use custom properties if you don't like the power/scope/limitations of globals. I would respectfully amend that to read: Use globals if you need them, use custom properties if you need data bound

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I think Scott has the right attitude. Use globals if you need them, Use custom properties if you don't like the power/scope/limitations of globals. In addition, I use Do "global xyz" and delete "global xyz" to have rigorous dynamic control over global variables. Duri

Re: defining and using globals in an application

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Once again, no, it doesn't work that way. Global variables are *never* > out of scope, so you can *not* have global and local variables with > the same name. Even if the global variable is declared in a different > script, it's still lurking in

Re: Gottit!

Well the email isn't coming from him, it's coming from the list server, but is tagged from him. Some mailing lists do this, and Gmail should really have some way to detect that, otherwise all mailing lists read through Gmail will incorrectly mark posts from other Gmail users as possible forgeries.

Display prices without VAT/WAS Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Hi Mark and RunRev, Am 07.07.2011 um 15:35 schrieb Mark Schonewille: > Hi Francis, > > ... > In continental Europe, you pay 79 euro + VAT. I believe it is illegal to put > consumer prices without VAT on a website in Europe, but RunRev still uses > prices without VAT. This is true! > ... > --

Re: defining and using globals in an application

Mark Stuart wrote: You HAVE to declare the global again, and again where needed. I'd rather it once declared and a value put into it, the value be available elsewhere WITHOUT having to declare it again. As Jacque pointed out, LC and related dialects are very forgiving with the scope of variab

Re: Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Hi Francis, To make apps for your own iPad and keep them running, you need to pay for the Apple dev programme every year unfortunately. In continental Europe, you pay 79 euro + VAT. I believe it is illegal to put consumer prices without VAT on a website in Europe, but RunRev still uses prices

Setting up Mac LiveCode apps on an iPad ?

Hi from Beautiful Brittany, When the iPad came out, I thought "WOW", with the idea of carrying my LiveCode apps with me. Then I found out that (of course), I had to pay for this facility (OK - Business is Business !). I don't really want to develop new apps on an iPad, but move existing LiveCode

LiveCode.tv Event #30 Wrap-Up[

Dear LiveCoders, Last Saturday, 2 July, we had another nice on-line gathering of LiveCode fans. This time we had 2 cool presentations by Judy and Chipp. Additionally, we set a record as the event was attended by over 30 people! Yay! Judy started the event with a beginners session. She discussed

Linking step of external object build failed

I tried to get started building an external for iOS. So I tried to follow along with the video on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqduyQkhigg step by step. It worked fine a few days ago, but it stopped working. The only change I can think of is upgrading to 10.6.8. Actually, the build succeeded,

Re: Unicode in buttons?

Nevermind. Forgot I need to set the font for the button... Why must this be so complicated? *sigh* Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preference

Unicode in buttons?

Hi all, I am struggeling to have russian drop down menus... Did anyone manage to display unicode text in buttons? If so I'd appreciate any pointer! All the best, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url t

Re: how to ungroup a group of one

If that doesn't fix it, then try putting a link to your stack online and some of us may be able to help find the problem. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Slava, > > Chances are it is ungrouped, but just not displaying correctly in the > Application Browser. Try hitting the

Re: how to ungroup a group of one

Slava, Chances are it is ungrouped, but just not displaying correctly in the Application Browser. Try hitting the refresh button at the bottom of the Application Browser tree and the App Browser will show again the current group structure. This bug is why I wrote the Group Manager plugin for Live

Re: a color picker widget?

On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Slava Paperno wrote: > Is there a color-picker widget that I could insert into my stack? I want the > user to be able to choose a color. I know I can simply display a graphic > with a color wheel and tell the user to click (and test the color under the > mouse), but a