Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

> > > > >> We've done a lot of talk, is there any action that can be taken? > > > > I can suggest some "small" improvements to HIG, that I am making . I.e. use > % instead of pixels (the user can later change the % view, if necessary) and > establish a small device HIG. > For what i have read of

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

Enviado el: mar 18/03/2008 21:57 Para: usability@gnome.org Asunto: Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG.. > >> We've done a lot of talk, is there any action that can be taken? > I can suggest some "small" improvements to HIG, that I am making . I.e. use % instead of

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

Olav Vitters wrote: > Glade audience is developers, who can be expected to have access to > bigger screens. For documentation purposes the screenshot is also very > small. even on a 2560x1024, screen real estate is scarce and should not be wasted. > focus first on more user visible programs.

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Steve Fosdick wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:33:57 -0500 > "Matthew Nuzum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I personally don't see a way around this. As a large screen high-dpi > > user I'm going to want my panels to be bigger, the spacing between > > buttons to be larger and the fonts to be big

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Steve Fosdick wrote: > The reason I have a large, hi-res screen is NOT so the individual > features can be bigger (I could buy reading glasses for that) but > so I can get more things on the screen at once. +1 first time posting here. a big thank you to those who make Ubuntu / Gnome so usable.

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:33:57 -0500 "Matthew Nuzum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally don't see a way around this. As a large screen high-dpi > user I'm going to want my panels to be bigger, the spacing between > buttons to be larger and the fonts to be bigger. Speaking personally, this is

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

we could... do it in another wiki... a parallel wiki of the HIG... and stop complaining... i have started to read it and at the same time the changes could be proposed in a wiki. what i saied about glade, is that i am on a 1024x728 screen and it looks almost like the screen shot, that is why i thi

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

More like 800x480 because most of these are widescreens ;) The thing as, as it was mentionned in other posts, dpi values vary wildly from screen to screen. You can have 4 inches 800x480 screens (n810) or 2.5 inches 800x480 (mylo2), so spacing can't just be given in pixels. Couldn't the HIG be rewri

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Dokuro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We've done a lot of talk, is there any action that can be taken? > > > > i have no idea, do you remember when web pages had best viewed on > 800x600... > well on programs they could add and beyond... still is no use for no

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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 04:27:26PM +1930, Dokuro wrote: > http://glade.gnome.org/manual/getting-started.html Glade audience is developers, who can be expected to have access to bigger screens. For documentation purposes the screenshot is also very small. HIG is just a guideline. If you need to de

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> > We've done a lot of talk, is there any action that can be taken? > i have no idea, do you remember when web pages had best viewed on 800x600... well on programs they could add and beyond... still is no use for now programmers have to remake their applications if they are supposed to run on di

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When we first wrote the HIG, the most common screen sizes in use were > (based on the various browser statistics available online) 800x600 and > 1024x768, in roughly equal amounts. I don't believe we had any > resoluti

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Pedro Macanas wrote: > See http://live.gnome.org/HumanInterfaceGuidelines with the suggestions > about G4TV and Small Device Gnome. There is also thread from January with this theme: HIG proposals are bad for PDA and small screen devices http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2008-January/msg0

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> See http://live.gnome.org/HumanInterfaceGuidelines with the suggestions > about G4TV and Small Device Gnome. > > We could create a package called gnome-4tv that one can install from > repositories. If you want, you can add more information about G4TV, so more > people can use it (and downlo

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

De: Dokuro Enviado el: vie 14/03/2008 22:38 Asunto: Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG.. >also the desktop interface should be different from case to case, EX: the desktop (as a hole) in a monitor on a PC should be arranged differently than at a TV screen, items should be arranged to work well o

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also the desktop interface should be different from case to case, EX: the desktop (as a hole) in a monitor on a PC should be arranged differently than at a TV screen, items should be arranged to work well on a tv; or menus on cellphones, we can't have the same looking gnome bars and menus on a cell

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On 14 Mar 2008, at 15:41, Dokuro wrote: > can anyone tell me what is the regular resolution the HIG is supposed > to work on? > if we know that, we could just calculate the actual difference for > smaller and bigger resolutions based on that pixel value, a pixel on > High Resolution would be what

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Dokuro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can anyone tell me what is the regular resolution the HIG is supposed > to work on? > if we know that, we could just calculate the actual difference for > smaller and bigger resolutions based on that pixel value, a pixel on >

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can anyone tell me what is the regular resolution the HIG is supposed to work on? if we know that, we could just calculate the actual difference for smaller and bigger resolutions based on that pixel value, a pixel on High Resolution would be what in a lower one... _

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Calum Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 09:17 +, Dokuro wrote: >> hello everyone, >> it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over >> sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a >> 800x600 screen everything is always so big... i reduced the font

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 09:17 +, Dokuro wrote: > hello everyone, > it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over > sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a > 800x600 screen everything is always so big... i reduced the font size > from 10 to 8, it f

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

But we can see a customizable (lighter) additional version ;-) De: Luca Cappelletti Enviado el: jue 13/03/2008 14:29 Para: PEDRO MACANAS VALVERDE CC: Matthew Nuzum; usability //Gnome Asunto: Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG.. >I agree to start to study a specification from small devi

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Luca Cappelletti wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM, PEDRO MACANAS VALVERDE > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > We can begin writting a trivial user interface. Later it can be > improved. > > Regards. > > I agree to start to study a specification f

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM, PEDRO MACANAS VALVERDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We can begin writting a trivial user interface. Later it can be improved. > > Regards. > I agree to start to study a specification from small devices and UMPC taking into account for example on how Ubuntu Mobile

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

De: Matthew Nuzum Enviado el: mié 12/03/2008 20:38 Asunto: Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG.. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Dokuro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the compact theme worked great, still it is also the developers fault, > not

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Dokuro wrote: > hello everyone, > it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over > sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a > 800x600 screen everything is always so big... i reduced the font size > from 10 to 8, it fixed things a little but almost all

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Dokuro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the compact theme worked great, still it is also the developers fault, > not to make things better or leave a bunch of configuration options so > the user could re-arrange things It's not so clear cut. There are three types o

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also i have used KDE on small monitors and some windows are too big for the screen too... so it is not just gnome programs, in kde i remember i had the accept buttons almost outside of the screen ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.

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the compact theme worked great, still it is also the developers fault, not to make things better or leave a bunch of configuration options so the user could re-arrange things great help from the mail list! On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Piotr Zaryk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brainstorm id

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Brainstorm idea connected with this topic: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/447/ 2008/3/12, Piotr Zaryk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Look at KDE - looks great even in 800x600. There should be an option to > make gnome items smaller (simple comparison - gajim and psi from kde). Gnome > should be more

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

Look at KDE - looks great even in 800x600. There should be an option to make gnome items smaller (simple comparison - gajim and psi from kde). Gnome should be more elastic - able to fit 800x600 and higher resolution screens. 2008/3/12, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/3/12, Luca Cappell

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2008/3/12, Luca Cappelletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello Dario, > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Dokuro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hello everyone, > > it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over > > sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a >

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 09:17 +, Dokuro wrote: > hello everyone, > it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over > sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a > 800x600 screen everything is always so big... i reduced the font size > from 10 to 8, it f

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

lot for your contributions. This help me (and I am sure also to OTHERS) to improve. Pedro. De: Dokuro Enviado el: mié 12/03/2008 14:47 Para: Asunto: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG.. hello everyone, it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything

Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

Hello Dario, On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Dokuro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello everyone, > it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over > sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a > 800x600 screen everything is always so big... i reduced th

[Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

hello everyone, it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a 800x600 screen everything is always so big... i reduced the font size from 10 to 8, it fixed things a little but almost all programs occupy the hole