Hey Mark,
Im going to disagree a little with the crowd. I don't think it is a good
idea to split the unity list. Unity is your project. Of all people, you
are putting the most into in, in terms of investment, thought, and wisdom.
You are probably the person who cares the most about the success
+1
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Bilal Akhtar wrote:
> I think we could greatly improve the quality of discussion on this
> mailing list by doing something like it was done on the ubuntu-devel
> mailing list: allow a few delegated team(s) to post messages, and
> everyone else will be moderate
Em 11-05-2012 15:50, Bilal Akhtar escreveu:
I think we could greatly improve the quality of discussion on this
mailing list by doing something like it was done on the ubuntu-devel
mailing list: allow a few delegated team(s) to post messages, and
everyone else will be moderated.
We could put more
I think we could greatly improve the quality of discussion on this
mailing list by doing something like it was done on the ubuntu-devel
mailing list: allow a few delegated team(s) to post messages, and
everyone else will be moderated.
We could put more thought into this, but IMHO allowing these te
Em 04-05-2012 01:10, Mark Shuttleworth escreveu:
Hi folks
We've done rather well to attract a lot of comments and discussion on
the unity-design list, which is great. And there are lots of interesting
ideas and suggestions and proposals and mockups, which is even better.
There are, however, qui
I don't expect Mark to return to this thread before the
UDS is over, but regardless of which direction is taken
(creating a new list or tightening the moderation of
the existing one), I do wonder who will be the people
who will make the moderating decisions.
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Le mar. 08 mai 2012 00:49:26 CEST, Ryan Gauger a écrit :
This makes sense. A completely new list may very well lead up to more
off-topic emails. Also, I do think that the author of the Linux kernel
(Linus Torvoids, sorry if the name is spelled wrong) does want Linux
development to be open. It wou
This makes sense. A completely new list may very well lead up to more off-topic
emails. Also, I do think that the author of the Linux kernel (Linus Torvoids,
sorry if the name is spelled wrong) does want Linux development to be open. It
would not make any sense for Ubuntu to be open, but at the
I agree, +1 for your idea.
Sent from my iPod
On May 7, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
wrote:
> On 05/04/2012 06:10 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
>> Hi folks
>>
>> We've done rather well to attract a lot of comments and discussion on
>> the unity-design list, which is great. And th
On second thoughts, a second list might lead to even more noise, mainly
"can I get an invite", "why wasn't I invited", "closed discussions are
against the linux philosophy" etc.
Moderators *might* be a better idea but would also probably lead to
countless "why was my topic closed" topics.
Also, I
On 05/04/2012 06:10 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Hi folks
We've done rather well to attract a lot of comments and discussion on
the unity-design list, which is great. And there are lots of interesting
ideas and suggestions and proposals and mockups, which is even better.
There are, however, qui
Trust me; if anything, a mailing list would be the best way to do this.
Working at a company who recently tried to get rid of email, I can tell you
it's not as easy as it seems. Our first try just ended up being email with
more burdens and complexities.
On May 5, 2012 6:14 AM, "Keith Peter" wrote:
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Josh Strawbridge wrote:
> how many lists do we really need? isn't that just going to create more
> stuff for people to have to filter in or out of their in boxes?
> wouldn't it be better to be able to simply be able to lock a topic's
> thread from replies and give
how many lists do we really need? isn't that just going to create more
stuff for people to have to filter in or out of their in boxes?
wouldn't it be better to be able to simply be able to lock a topic's thread
from replies and give the post the one response explaining why?
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Josh Strawbridge
--
Hello All
I've been lurking on unity-design for a bit so I can see what ideas
people are coming up with, but also to see how decisions get made and
suggestions get filtered. The 'discourse' has been interesting to read
and I can see the problem. I can also see an escalation happening as
10.04 -> 1
Hi,
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, shane lee wrote:
> I think it is more about promoting constructive debate/discussion.
> Who decides what is constructive and how is another matter...
For decisions that have been made, and for which it is clear that
there's no going back, the debate is just no
I think it is more about promoting constructive debate/discussion.
Who decides what is constructive and how is another matter...
On 4 May 2012 18:47, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On 4 May 2012 00:10, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> > There's lots of value in having a public, unmoderated list for design
> >
You don't have to agree with the decisions, you just have to accept that
a decision was made even if you disagree with it, and respect the fact
that someone had to make that decision knowing that it wouldn't please
everybody, which is never easy.
Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com
On 05/04/2012 10
On 4 May 2012 00:10, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> There's lots of value in having a public, unmoderated list for design
> discussions. It's good to have a place where anybody can generate ideas.
> And this list is fine for that. I'd like to propose an additional list,
> unity-distilled, which would
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> Participation there would be predicated on a shared
> understanding of our values, goals and modus operandi.
This standard does run the risk of becoming insular and
self-reinforcing. You have to be very careful that the takeaway
message
rring discussions" that take place
here.
-Omar
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 21:10:38 -0700
From: m...@ubuntu.com
To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: [Unity-design] unity-distilled list proposal
Hi folks
We've done rather well to attract a lot of comments and discussion on
the unity-des
Although I think it is a good idea there is a concern that genuine thoughts
and good ideas of those not invited and posting in the "noisy" list may
well go un-noticed and those good ideas be passed over if that list becomes
seen as the "whinging" list and stops being read at all by those in the
inv
On 04/05/12 06:41, shane lee wrote:
> Isn't public and invite only a bit of a contradiction?
> If the list publicly viewable but only writeable by invitation then
> yes, it would be a good iead then those of us who do like to bang on
> about the same old thing can still view the discussions but tak
On 03/05/12 23:59, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> One question, though. What exactly does it mean that it'll be public,
> unmoderated and invite-only? If the goal is to enhance the debates, I
> think it's important that anyone is able to lurk and learn. I also think
> such a list should have very cle
Em 04-05-2012 05:36, Thorsten Wilms escreveu:
A list like this without the noise would be very welcome.
But a number of people would have to be on both lists, then, to see
all the input and for seeing who can be invited. That's more load, not
less, for at least a selected few who are all suppo
Isn't public and invite only a bit of a contradiction?
If the list publicly viewable but only writeable by invitation then yes, it
would be a good iead then those of us who do like to bang on about the same
old thing can still view the discussions but take our own thoughts elseware
(the "noisy" lis
Hi Mark, i've subscribed since few months, sometimes I got a +1, other
times I wrote about things already decided. Anyway it was easy to me
understand when propose an idea and when jump the conversation.
I propose this way:
1) this ml for newbies, onews, oldies, old ideas: that is the primordial
so
On 05/04/2012 06:10 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
I'd like to propose an additional list,
unity-distilled, which would be public and unmoderated, but open by
invitation only.
Thoughts?
A list like this without the noise would be very welcome.
But a number of people would have to be on both
This sounds like a very good idea to me. I've been a little bit worried
that too many repetitions and more or less off-topic conversations,
might cause some of the busier people to focus less on the list. I've
seen that happen on other mailinglists and on irc.
One question, though. What exactly do
I think it's a fabulous idea, but down the line how do we prevent the same
"rot" from happening due to new users not knowing what's been discussed?
Should we document the major discussions?
And why create yet another list and not just do a reformation for this one?
Can't the use you propose for th
Hi folks
We've done rather well to attract a lot of comments and discussion on
the unity-design list, which is great. And there are lots of interesting
ideas and suggestions and proposals and mockups, which is even better.
There are, however, quite a lot of repetitive threads. For example,
today'
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