I think it is more about promoting constructive debate/discussion. Who decides what is constructive and how is another matter...
On 4 May 2012 18:47, Jeremy Bicha <jbi...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On 4 May 2012 00:10, Mark Shuttleworth <m...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > There's lots of value in having a public, unmoderated list for design > > discussions. It's good to have a place where anybody can generate ideas. > > And this list is fine for that. I'd like to propose an additional list, > > unity-distilled, which would be public and unmoderated, but open by > > invitation only. Participation there would be predicated on a shared > > understanding of our values, goals and modus operandi. People would be > > invited if they show an interest, insight into and agreement with the > > answers to the above boring threads, and several more like them. I'm > > sure we'll have vigorous debates on -distilled, but folk there would > > have demonstrated an ability to have the debate, settle the question and > > move on to more interesting matters rather than letting the same topics > > come up repeatedly. > > I object to "People would be invited if they show...agreement with the > answers to the above boring threads." I like helping out with Ubuntu > desktop design and working with the full-time designers to suggest > improvements or reporting things that don't work as well. Sometimes I > even submit patches to fix the bugs! And I generally like Unity but > there's no way I agree with every design decision (and I'm sure Mark > and the designers don't either). > > I don't think that agreeing with the design specifics should be a > requirement to participate (and what happens if someone agrees with > everything except for the window buttons on the left -- would they > allowed to post or not?). We want to encourage diversity of > perspective while focusing on creating a single best default user > experience for Ubuntu. I.e. not groupthink. > > The unity-design list (and its predecessor the ayatana list) is > amazing in that anyone has a direct line of communication to Mark & > the rest of the design team. It shows that Canonical *respects* the > contributions of the community. It's important if you as a non-insider > want to influence Ubuntu's design that you *respect* others, > specifically by not wasting time and cluttering inboxes by discussing > things that have already been well-discussed. There are plenty of > other pieces of the desktop that need attention and are open for > improvement. > > I don't think the list should be completely unmoderated (to encourage > focus), but I don't care for "censorship" either. > > Jeremy > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design > Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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