Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-02-04 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chad M. Germann wrote on 01/02/13 22:15: > ... > >> I disagree, though it's a polite disagreement. :-) But even if >> Mark was right, that wouldn't help the millions using Ubuntu >> 11.10, 12.04 LTS, 12.10, or 13.04. And most Ubuntu applications >> --

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-02-04 Thread Oren Horev
nday, January 28, 2013 10:28 PM > To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist > > (Disclaimer: I'm not a Unity developer, nor am I involved in its design, > so please don't fault them for my opinions.) > >

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-02-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/01/2013 05:15 PM, Chad M. Germann wrote: > I would caution that Ubuntu should be humble and try its best to make > it's HUD work with applications. not make applications adapt to HUD. We have been humble - we put in a lot of work to make the HUD read existing menus. However, in order for th

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-02-01 Thread Chad M. Germann
First of all thank you for your reply it is nice to see such concerns actually being responded to. Yes, when I first saw that the menus were hidden, I reported it as a bug. It seems we agree on this point sadly, the log on the bug shows lots of foot draggin

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chad M. Germann wrote on 30/01/13 07:49: > ... >> >> 7. Burden of Proof >> >> http://design.canonical.com/2010/05/menu-bar/ From nearly three >> years ago. MPT has since admitted this implementation is not >> exactly as he detailed. No one has ever

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-30 Thread Petko
Well let me do my recap : 1. There clearly are people that use menu functions often , cannot remember them all in shortcuts and would not find it easier to use the HUD for the job. 2. Well what do you know there's no second point. My opinion : (just a comment on the revolutionary change i

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-29 Thread Chad M. Germann
2. Ergonomics If you're using focus follows mouse and don't already know about it? Sure. Otherwise, no. You know to fling your mouse to the top (and with acceleration, that's one movement) and bam, there's your menu. No need to hit a strip *somewhere* on the screen. Always at the top. Were n

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-29 Thread Jonathan Meek
mann=gmail....@lists.launchpad.net [mailto: > unity-design-bounces+cgermann=gmail@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of > Conscious User > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:05 AM > To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blackli

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-29 Thread Chad M. Germann
] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist >Chad, I'm not sure what you want to accomplish with this thread. This comment >from Mark: >https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788/comments/261 >clearly shows that the problem is not IF, it's WHEN. Just Purposing a fix for

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-29 Thread Conscious User
Chad, I'm not sure what you want to accomplish with this thread. This comment from Mark: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788/comments/261 clearly shows that the problem is not IF, it's WHEN. Don't get me wrong, I too would like to see this fixed. However, I can't see why the EXACT SAM

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-29 Thread pjssi...@gmail.com
10:28 PM > To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist > > (Disclaimer: I'm not a Unity developer, nor am I involved in its design, > so please don't fault them for my opinions.) > > On 29/01/2013 06:09,

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-28 Thread Chad M. Germann
] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist (Disclaimer: I'm not a Unity developer, nor am I involved in its design, so please don't fault them for my opinions.) On 29/01/2013 06:09, Chad Germann wrote: > Let’s face it People have yelled about Unity’s Vanishing global > menu.

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-28 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 01/29/2013 08:28 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: - For media editing (GIMP), the "Professionals" and "the enterprise" you talk about who are used to the application in question typically employ a more keyboard shortcut-heavy + mouse usage, so I doubt the menu is used much either. Let's

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-28 Thread Ralph Green
On 1/28/13, Aditya Vaidya wrote: > Also, to add to Chow's reasons, I'd say the implementation of the HUD kind > of invalidates your claim that "menu intensive" applications are hard to > use with Unity. Maybe hard is the wrong word. HUD uses a slow and cumbersome way to manipulate programs. Mayb

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-28 Thread Aditya Vaidya
Also, to add to Chow's reasons, I'd say the implementation of the HUD kind of invalidates your claim that "menu intensive" applications are hard to use with Unity. In fact, I believe they're much easier. No longer do I have to go digging through GIMP (well, for 2.8, which has single window mode) fo

Re: [Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-28 Thread Chow Loong Jin
(Disclaimer: I'm not a Unity developer, nor am I involved in its design, so please don't fault them for my opinions.) On 29/01/2013 06:09, Chad Germann wrote: > Let’s face it People have yelled about Unity’s Vanishing global menu. And > it > seems to fall on Deaf or stubborn ears. So we need

[Unity-design] end user ajustable Global menu Blacklist

2013-01-28 Thread Chad Germann
Let’s face it People have yelled about Unity’s Vanishing global menu. And it seems to fall on Deaf or stubborn ears. So we need another fix because the option to let users let it keep showing is probably not in the cards and, purposed “fix” https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788 involves