[ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
Hello, Linux Mint is higher in the rankings than Ubuntu. I have just come off the phone with a customer, we write web applications and we prefer they use Google Chrome because we're planning to write a plugin and all sorts, but that is irrelevant. This customer called in, asked if he could instal

[ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread javadayaz
Recently ive found my system is crashing or unresponsive when i press Alt tab to switch between programs..? Has anyone else seen this? -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread James Morrissey
Without stating any preferences on a thread which is likely to bring forth opinions: As i understand it, the current Unity Interface is (at least in part) the result of the sort of testing you are describing: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/mark-shuttleworth-explains-dodge-ditch-decision-in-pre

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread James Morrissey
Also: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/stats-show-ubuntu-not-losing-ground-to-linux-mint/ On 22 February 2012 13:49, James Morrissey wrote: > Without stating any preferences on a thread which is likely to bring > forth opinions: As i understand it, the current Unity Interface is (at > least in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 13:49, James Morrissey wrote: > Without stating any preferences on a thread which is likely to bring > forth opinions: As i understand it, the current Unity Interface is (at > least in part) the result of the sort of testing you are describing: > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/20

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Simon Greenwood
I can understand where you're coming from and yes, the visual metaphor does struggle a bit beyond the default applications on the dash but the thinking presumably was that there is a start button from which, as with Gnome (and Windows) all other installed software is installed. I understand and lik

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 13:55, James Morrissey wrote: > Also: > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/stats-show-ubuntu-not-losing-ground-to-linux-mint/ > I have to be honest I am tentative to take the posts on OMG Ubuntu as fact, I am not saying they are lying but sometimes they lack certain intricate

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread James Morrissey
On 22 February 2012 13:56, Kris Douglas wrote: >> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/mark-shuttleworth-explains-dodge-ditch-decision-in-precise/ >> >> https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg07682.html >> >> j > That is entirely related to the fact the bar dodged windows, and yes I > believe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread James Morrissey
> I have to be honest I am tentative to take the posts on OMG Ubuntu as > fact, I am not saying they are lying but sometimes they lack certain > intricate details that would otherwise be included in online > journalism. > > I actually really like OMG as a place to go, but I know a lot(5-10) of > pe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Dave Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/02/12 13:56, Kris Douglas wrote: > On 22 February 2012 13:49, James Morrissey > wrote: >> Without stating any preferences on a thread which is likely to >> bring forth opinions: As i understand it, the current Unity >> Interface is (at least in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 14:03, James Morrissey wrote: >> I have to be honest I am tentative to take the posts on OMG Ubuntu as >> fact, I am not saying they are lying but sometimes they lack certain >> intricate details that would otherwise be included in online >> journalism. >> >> I actually really

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 14:06, Dave Morley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 22/02/12 13:56, Kris Douglas wrote: >> On 22 February 2012 13:49, James Morrissey >> wrote: >>> Without stating any preferences on a thread which is likely to >>> bring forth opinions: As i unde

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Alan Bell
On 22/02/12 13:43, Kris Douglas wrote: Unity is honestly broken, someone must understand this, I will happily speak to people in person or on email in more detail about this. code talks. Fix it the way you want it and submit a merge request. Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, fi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 14:11, Alan Bell wrote: > On 22/02/12 13:43, Kris Douglas wrote: >> >> Unity is honestly broken, someone must understand this, I will happily >> speak to people in person or on email in more detail about this. > > > code talks. Fix it the way you want it and submit a merge requ

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Avi Greenbury
Kris Douglas wrote: > Linux Mint is higher in the rankings than Ubuntu. Yes. And Scotland is subsidising the UK. > He has has this machine for 6 weeks thinking it only had the icons > down the left installed on it. (i.e the Unity Dock). Now someone > could say to me "why didn't he read the manua

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Dino T.
He didnt know the logo but a simple "click the top left icon then type the name of the program" couldn't have been said? I got my dad at 68 years old to do that easily over the phone. *Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)* On 22 February 2012 14:11, Alan Bell wrote: > On 22/02/12 13:43, Kris Douglas

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Barry Drake
On 22/02/12 13:56, Kris Douglas wrote: That is entirely related to the fact the bar dodged windows, and yes I believe that is to be discontinued. However, that is not the problem to be honest, the the "iconfication" and hiding of menus and maximising each window... etc etc. There's a neat co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 14:17, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Kris Douglas  wrote: >> Linux Mint is higher in the rankings than Ubuntu. > > Yes. And Scotland is subsidising the UK. > >> He has has this machine for 6 weeks thinking it only had the icons >> down the left installed on it. (i.e the Unity Dock). N

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 14:27, Kris Douglas wrote: > On 22 February 2012 14:17, Avi Greenbury wrote: >> Kris Douglas  wrote: >>> Linux Mint is higher in the rankings than Ubuntu. >> >> Yes. And Scotland is subsidising the UK. >> >>> He has has this machine for 6 weeks thinking it only had the icons >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 February 2012 14:18, Dino T. wrote: > He didnt know the logo but a simple "click the top left icon then type the > name of the program" couldn't have been said? I got my dad at 68 years old > to do that easily over the phone. > Hello, If you weren't there and you were trying to explain tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Andy Braben
> > The user of this system could be categorised as lazy, like my > colleague the electrician, who "can't be bothered with it" > > > It doesn't matter what operating system is being used, if a person is being "lazy" and "can't be bothered with it" they won't be bothered by it and won't install an a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread Steve Flynn
On 22 February 2012 13:46, javadayaz wrote: > Recently ive found my system is crashing or unresponsive when i press Alt > tab to switch between programs..? > > Has anyone else seen this? Nope - not for a couple of years. Traced that one back to some flaky ram. Recently though, all is ok using Uni

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread J Fernyhough
On 22 February 2012 13:46, javadayaz wrote: > Recently ive found my system is crashing or unresponsive when i press Alt > tab to switch between programs..? > > Has anyone else seen this? > I've seen something similar(?) previously with fglrx and mipmapping enabled in the Compiz plugin settings (e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread javadayaz
so is this a hardware problem..? what can i do to fix this? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:14 PM, J Fernyhough wrote: > On 22 February 2012 13:46, javadayaz wrote: > > Recently ive found my system is crashing or unresponsive when i press Alt > > tab to switch between programs..? > > > > Has anyone el

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 82, Issue 29

2012-02-22 Thread Kevin Safford
On 22/02/12 14:49, Andy Braben wrote: It doesn't matter what operating system is being used, if a person is being "lazy" and "can't be bothered with it" they won't be bothered by it and won't install an application or setup a printer because it is beyond them, or so they think. If however they a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread J Fernyhough
On 22 February 2012 15:39, javadayaz wrote: > so is this a hardware problem..? > what can i do to fix this? > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:14 PM, J Fernyhough > wrote: >> >> On 22 February 2012 13:46, javadayaz wrote: >> > Recently ive found my system is crashing or unresponsive when i press >> >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 82, Issue 29

2012-02-22 Thread Avi Greenbury
Kevin Safford wrote: > I was going to stay out of this, but that just seems like an excuse > for poorly designed software. I'd hope the Linux and Ubuntu community > can do better. We certainly shouldn't be blaming the user. Well, to an extent. It does seem weird to knowingly change which system y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread javadayaz
awesome...will try this when i get home! :) On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:50 PM, J Fernyhough wrote: > On 22 February 2012 15:39, javadayaz wrote: > > so is this a hardware problem..? > > what can i do to fix this? > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:14 PM, J Fernyhough > > wrote: > >> > >> On 22 Feb

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Liam Proven
On 22 February 2012 13:43, Kris Douglas wrote: > Hello, > > Linux Mint is higher in the rankings than Ubuntu. > I have just come off the phone with a customer, we write web > applications and we prefer they use Google Chrome because we're > planning to write a plugin and all sorts, but that is irr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Alan Bell
On 22/02/12 14:14, Kris Douglas wrote: I am primarily a windows/ web developer (sadly). However I am not going to say I don't have the time or anything like that. I will happily attempt a mockup. it is mostly not as hard as you might expect. I did some messing with the apps lens having never s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Liam Proven
On 22 February 2012 16:05, Alan Bell wrote: > On 22/02/12 14:14, Kris Douglas wrote: >> >> >> I am primarily a windows/ web developer (sadly). However I am not >> going to say I don't have the time or anything like that. I will >> happily attempt a mockup. >> > it is mostly not as hard as you migh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
That is perfect... This is exactly what it needed, really good. Sent from my Desire HD On Feb 22, 2012 4:05 PM, "Alan Bell" wrote: > On 22/02/12 14:14, Kris Douglas wrote: > >> >> I am primarily a windows/ web developer (sadly). However I am not >> going to say I don't have the time or anything

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for Android......

2012-02-22 Thread scoundrel50a
Anybody seen this, sounds interesting. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/ubuntu-for-android-linux-desktop-on-a-smartphone/10402?tag=nl.e539 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

[ubuntu-uk] Heres an idea (Was "Unity is not working")

2012-02-22 Thread David Smith
I have to agree with most being said about Unity and how it is such a jump from what we were used to. I understand the evolution of software, from one version to the next, but this felt like we were being forced to grow wings and webbed feet at the same time (no longer Linux for human beings).

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Heres an idea (Was "Unity is not working")

2012-02-22 Thread Kris Douglas
I am using xubuntu at the moment. Its very nice but takes a fair bit of tweaking. However I like the ability to tweak and/or break haha. Sent from my Desire HD On Feb 22, 2012 4:50 PM, "David Smith" wrote: > I have to agree with most being said about Unity and how it is such a jump > from what w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for Android......

2012-02-22 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 22 February 2012 16:42, scoundrel50a wrote: > Anybody seen this, sounds interesting. > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/ubuntu-for-** > android-linux-desktop-on-a-**smartphone/10402?tag=nl.e539

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Heres an idea (Was "Unity is not working")

2012-02-22 Thread J Fernyhough
On 22 February 2012 16:51, David Smith wrote: > I have to agree with most being said about Unity and how it is such a jump > from what we were used to.  I understand the evolution of software, from one > version to the next, but this felt like we were being forced to grow wings > and webbed feet a

[ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working

2012-02-22 Thread Alex Cockell
Hi Andy, You mentioned "It doesn't matter what operating system is being used, if a person is being "lazy" and "can't be bothered with it" they won't be bothered by it and won't install an application or setup a printer because it is beyond them, or so they think. If however they are full of ent

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Heres an idea (Was "Unity is not working")

2012-02-22 Thread Avi Greenbury
David Smith wrote: > I have to agree with most being said about Unity and how it is such a > jump from what we were used to. Sure, but did you need to do it in yet another brand new thread? > I understand the evolution of software, from one version to the next, > but this felt like we were bein

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Heres an idea (Was "Unity is not working")

2012-02-22 Thread Joe
I recently moved to Linix Mint on my netbook, reluctantly though because I wanted to stay *buntu, but after trying Xubuntu and Kubuntu I didn't really find that any were quite perfect. After moving to Mint, I have to say I'm pleased with it. It has all the ease and efficiency that Ubuntu used t

[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [ubuntu-web] Ubuntu 12.04 Countdown banner competition

2012-02-22 Thread Alan Bell
any artistic types out there who want to get their work a *huge* number of views (and no, I don't know what the  characters are in the mail) Alan. Original Message *Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is just around the corner!* As in the past, we'd like to create a new countdown banner to s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread Gareth France
I have, switching to Unity 2D solved the issue. On 22/02/12 13:46, javadayaz wrote: Recently ive found my system is crashing or unresponsive when i press Alt tab to switch between programs..? Has anyone else seen this? -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Heres an idea (Was "Unity is not working")

2012-02-22 Thread Pete Smout
On 22/02/12 18:16, Joe wrote: I recently moved to Linix Mint on my netbook, reluctantly though because I wanted to stay *buntu, but after trying Xubuntu and Kubuntu I didn't really find that any were quite perfect. After moving to Mint, I have to say I'm pleased with it. It has all the ease a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alt - tab misbehaving

2012-02-22 Thread javadayaz
so i got this: "Checking if settings need to be migrated ...no Checking if internal files need to be migrated ...no Backend : gconf Integration : true Profile : unity Adding plugins Skipping upgrade com.canonical.unity.unity.01.upgrade Skipping upgrade com.canonical.unity.unity.02.upgrade

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for Android......

2012-02-22 Thread javadayaz
motorola already Kinda do this. See the motorola atrix! On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 22 February 2012 16:42, scoundrel50a wrote: > >> Anybody seen this, sounds interesting. >> >> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/ubuntu-for-** >> android-linux-deskt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [ubuntu-web] Ubuntu 12.04 Countdown banner competition

2012-02-22 Thread Jim Price
On 22/02/12 18:16, Alan Bell wrote: any artistic types out there who want to get their work a *huge* number of views (and no, I don't know what the  characters are in the mail) This explains the  characters: http://ask.metafilter.com/71246/What-the-%C3%82 Watch the %C3%82 change into an  i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Jim Price
On 22/02/12 16:05, Alan Bell wrote: it is mostly not as hard as you might expect. I did some messing with the apps lens having never seen Vala code before and I got it doing what I wanted and sorting the applications into categories as per the gnome menu: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appme

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Last / next meeting + Ubuntu jam

2012-02-22 Thread Bruno Girin
On 21/02/12 22:35, Daniel Drummond wrote: I'm in Manchester too, would be interested if anything is going on. Worst case scenario, we can always do a "Ubuntu Happy Hour" in a pub or other. It's not as if Manchester was short in drinking establishments :-) I just can't do the 3rd (Saturday)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Last / next meeting + Ubuntu jam

2012-02-22 Thread Les Pounder
Hi everyone There'll be another UCubed event on April 28th. UCubed is a Debian and Ubuntu unconference that is hosted at Madlab, in the Northern Quarter of Manchester. It's free to attend, and is a full day of talks, workshops and networking. Stop by ucubed.info for details of last years event.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

2012-02-22 Thread Bruno Girin
On 22/02/12 14:29, Kris Douglas wrote: ... However the system could once for the first time the user uses the system lay an overlay over the top explaining how to use the menus, etc. Interestingly enough, Unity 5 in Precise does something similar: it displays an overlay when you press the Supe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Last / next meeting + Ubuntu jam

2012-02-22 Thread Alan Bell
On 21/02/12 22:21, Bruno Girin wrote: Hi all, The minutes of the last meeting at the moment show the 12th Jan and the current agenda is for the 2nd Feb. Does anybody know when the next meeting is or have I missed it? The last meeting was kind of quiet Here are the minutes https://wiki.ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Last / next meeting + Ubuntu jam

2012-02-22 Thread Daniel Drummond
Sounds interesting. I will put it in the calendar. On 22 February 2012 21:04, Les Pounder wrote: > Hi everyone > > There'll be another UCubed event on April 28th. > > UCubed is a Debian and Ubuntu unconference that is hosted at Madlab, in > the Northern Quarter of Manchester. > It's free to atte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Last / next meeting + Ubuntu jam

2012-02-22 Thread Bruno Girin
On 22/02/12 22:14, Alan Bell wrote: On 21/02/12 22:21, Bruno Girin wrote: Hi all, The minutes of the last meeting at the moment show the 12th Jan and the current agenda is for the 2nd Feb. Does anybody know when the next meeting is or have I missed it? The last meeting was kind of quiet Her