Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-27 Thread alan c
Eddie Bernard wrote: > 2009/3/25 Matt Jones : >> In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are >> actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that >> is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a >> Via over the current (Dual core) cel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-27 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Matt Jones : > In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are > actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that > is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a > Via over the current (Dual core) celerons, they are quite a lon

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread alan c
Eddie Bernard wrote: > 2009/3/25 Jamie Bennett : >> Steve Cook wrote: >>> Here's your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ >> >> The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - £232.61. Nice looking little system >> there. > > Great - I can definitely beat that and by some way. I can't tell > whether t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread mike daniels
--- On Thu, 26/3/09, Eddie Bernard wrote: From: Eddie Bernard Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices To: "British Ubuntu Talk" Date: Thursday, 26 March, 2009, 9:52 AM 2009/3/26 Dave Morley : > Looking at the hardware, you're looking at about 1

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/26 Dave Morley : > Looking at the hardware, you're looking at about 110-130 plus 20 for > national delivery plus a bit for you so lets say 180 a unit-ish. You're in the area I'm looking at... but my raw costs are higher than 130, and I thought I'd sourced everything pretty cheaply. If you c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Rob Beard
Liam Proven wrote: > 2009/3/25 Matt Jones : > >> In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are >> actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that >> is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a >> Via over the current (Dual core)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Rob Beard
Liam Proven wrote: > 2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard : > >> I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with >> 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and >> ethernet are onboard. >> > > My only comment - apart from to agree with those who commend that you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Dave Morley
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 07:45 +, Sean Miller wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Alan Bell > wrote: > > to offer a contrary view I would always go for the latest released > > version fully updated. The customer is likely to update it anyway, or > > think they are not getting the newest and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-26 Thread Sean Miller
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Alan Bell wrote: > to offer a contrary view I would always go for the latest released > version fully updated. The customer is likely to update it anyway, or > think they are not getting the newest and shinyest operating system > otherwise. LTS is arguably better f

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Bell
Eddie Bernard wrote: > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > >> Surely for the average user a LTS version would be better, such as 8.04? >> Development versions and upgrades could raise severe antagonisms to you. >> > > Fair cop, glad you pointed that out. I need to curb my enthusiasm for > always wan

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Sean Miller
Interesting discussion. People are saying "a Linux PC should be cheaper than Windows" and - as I've said before - I am firmly of the view that this is a perception that we should seek to correct. The "free" in Linux is NOT as in beer, and time and time again we keep reverting to this concept that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/25 Matt Jones : > In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are > actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that > is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a > Via over the current (Dual core) celerons, they are quite a lon

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Jones
In the past, that opinion was fairly valid. Now, the celerons are actually quite speedy little chips, espescially for an Ubuntu box that is going to run web/openoffice/music all day. As for recommending a Via over the current (Dual core) celerons, they are quite a long way behind in performance ter

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard : > I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with > 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and > ethernet are onboard. My only comment - apart from to agree with those who commend that you use the LTS version - would be this: I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Bell
Fantastic to see any entry to the market with a non-windows PC. At the moment if we want to buy a desktop PC there are only a couple of places in the UK we can get one without Windows. The commodity desktop PC market is not a particularly nice place to be right now. The big boys appear to be pl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Broadhead
Eddie Bernard wrote: > My reason for contacting you all is a sort of market research, if > you'll be kind enough to allow that. I am interested in your opinion > on pricing for a computer with Ubuntu pre-installed, as it's a market > I am currently looking into. Personally, I look at the price fo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Ted
Eddie Bernard wrote: > 2009/3/25 Jamie Bennett : > >> Steve Cook wrote: >> >>> Here's your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ >>> >> The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - Ł232.61. Nice looking little system >> there. >> > > Great - I can definitely beat that and by some w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Rob Beard : > On 25/03/2009 11:47, Eddie Bernard wrote: >> Do you think I might do better offering this machine with a 250GB >> drive? Just wondering how much space a customer might need these >> days... > > You might be worth offering a 250GB drive if the cost difference isn't > that mu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread John Levin
Eddie Bernard wrote: > > I think the market conditions are pretty difficult at the moment, too. > Understandably, perhaps, but then again I would have thought if > anything the lower end of the market would be attracting more > customers trying to get a cheap PC. Or maybe people just aren't buying

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Jamie Bennett : > Steve Cook wrote: >> Here's your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ > > The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - Ł232.61. Nice looking little system > there. Great - I can definitely beat that and by some way. I can't tell whether this machine at this price includes

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Jamie Bennett
Steve Cook wrote: > Here’s your competition http://efficientpc.co.uk/ The Wraith, same system with 2gb of ram - £232.61. Nice looking little system there. Regards, Jamie -- http://www.linuxuk.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Cook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eddie Bernard wrote: > Good morning everyone > > I have a price in mind for this machine (including UK mainland > delivery) - but I'm curious to hear what other people think might be a > fair price for it. > Here’s your competition http://efficientpc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/03/2009 11:47, Eddie Bernard wrote: > 2009/3/25 Rob Beard: > >> On 25/03/2009 10:24, Jamie Bennett wrote: >> >>> Rob Beard wrote: >>> >>> > I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with > 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Rob Beard : > On 25/03/2009 10:24, Jamie Bennett wrote: >> Rob Beard wrote: >> I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and ethernet are onboard. Like I said, I would install Ubuntu 8.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard : > Cheers for the heads up. I'm just reading their website now... I > assume I would need to register for their system builder programme. I > don't suppose you know if that costs money? > You'd need to check with them, but I believe it does cost per-pc sold, a little more

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
2009/3/25 Alan Pope : > Hi Eddie, > > I don't believe you're breaking any "rules" as such on this mailing > list. I personally think we should foster and encourage UK based > companies/individuals who seek to supply Ubuntu based computers. I'd > like to see more of this kind of discussion. Hi Alan

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Eddie Bernard
Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > Surely for the average user a LTS version would be better, such as 8.04? > Development versions and upgrades could raise severe antagonisms to you. Fair cop, glad you pointed that out. I need to curb my enthusiasm for always wanting to be on the bleeding edge... Eddie (

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Eddie, I don't believe you're breaking any "rules" as such on this mailing list. I personally think we should foster and encourage UK based companies/individuals who seek to supply Ubuntu based computers. I'd like to see more of this kind of discussion. 2009/3/25 Eddie Bernard : > My reason fo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/03/2009 10:24, Jamie Bennett wrote: > Rob Beard wrote: > >>> I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with >>> 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and >>> ethernet are onboard. Like I said, I would install Ubuntu 8.10 (and, >>> of course, u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Jamie Bennett
Rob Beard wrote: >> I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with >> 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and >> ethernet are onboard. Like I said, I would install Ubuntu 8.10 (and, >> of course, ubuntu 9.04 when it's released!) and run through the >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/03/2009 10:05, Eddie Bernard wrote: > Good morning everyone > > First off, a declaration of interest, I'm in business selling desktop > PCs. However, to avoid accusations of spamming, I won't give further > details (unless you actually want them!) > > My reason for contacting you all is a sor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices

2009-03-25 Thread Tim Powys-Lybbe
Eddie Bernard wrote: > Good morning everyone > > First off, a declaration of interest, I'm in business selling desktop PCs. > However, to avoid accusations of spamming, I won't give further details > (unless you actually want them!) > > My reason for contacting you all is a sort of market resea