Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On 10/05/13 09:22, Tony Pursell wrote: Hi John On 10 May 2013 00:09, John Oliver mailto:jp.oli...@ntlworld.com>> wrote: I suppose it depends what's available on the platform. Looking at schools and colleges on the UK the vast majority run Windows XP or 7. That's not necessarily beca

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

Thanks - I'll have a look at those :) Regards, John Oliver On 10 May 2013, at 21:36, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > > On May 10, 2013 8:33 PM, "John Oliver" wrote: > > > > > John Oliver > > > > PS: I do rather like excel as a program even if some functions are hidden > > away in that tabu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On May 10, 2013 8:33 PM, "John Oliver" wrote: > > John Oliver > > PS: I do rather like excel as a program even if some functions are hidden away in that tabular view. If on Windows and it was installed alongside LibreOffice I would likely choose Excel. I use LibreOffice at home. > > PPS: I'm also

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

And yet regrettably the IT teachers are stuck on one system, bound by the equipment provided, and the IT support who usually run the network as well. The brighter ones will get the concept but many simply don't (or won't) understand and will end up more confused. I've been volunteering recently

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/13 15:59, Byte Soup wrote: > On 10 May 2013 10:02, James Tait > wrote: > > On 09/05/13 23:04, SuperEngineer wrote: >> just one final word (sentence)- my word "educate" was >> deliberate... get the kids using

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On 10 May 2013 10:02, James Tait wrote: > > On 09/05/13 23:04, SuperEngineer wrote: > > just one final word (sentence)- my word "educate" was deliberate... > > get the kids using Linux, let them think it's 'normal'. > > I'm sure my boys' response to that would be "Why, isn't it?" > > JT > Kids a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/13 23:04, SuperEngineer wrote: > just one final word (sentence)- my word "educate" was deliberate... > get the kids using Linux, let them think it's 'normal'. I'm sure my boys' response to that would be "Why, isn't it?" JT - -- - --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

Hi John On 10 May 2013 00:09, John Oliver wrote: > I suppose it depends what's available on the platform. Looking at schools > and colleges on the UK the vast majority run Windows XP or 7. That's not > necessarily because of the technical staff who are often perfectly capable > of using and mana

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

Pete wrote: > > On 09/05/13 22:30, SuperEngineer wrote: > >On 09/05/13 22:18, Sean Miller wrote: > >>If you extended this to the open market as a whole, then every > >>washing machine should have alternative operating systems. > >> > >>No, it's not something I subscribe to. > >> > >>If a "manufact

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

John Oliver wrote: > If you're in education trying to teach children to word process it simply > isn't faesable to try to explain the difference between proprietary > and open-source software etc and then to get them to make a choice. I think the notion of software freedom is absolutely the sort o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On 09/05/13 22:30, SuperEngineer wrote: On 09/05/13 22:18, Sean Miller wrote: If you extended this to the open market as a whole, then every washing machine should have alternative operating systems. No, it's not

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

XP is going to be dead, no security updates. Lubuntu has realised this, we are asking xubutu and kubuntu to come on board. The initial one was just lubuntu, it is now open to all the flavours to get on board with this, For schools / colleges? Use Edubutnu, or is there no one in UK who knows of it?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

I suppose it depends what's available on the platform. Looking at schools and colleges on the UK the vast majority run Windows XP or 7. That's not necessarily because of the technical staff who are often perfectly capable of using and managing a GNU/Linux system or set of systems, not is it sayi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 22:38 +0100, alan c wrote: > I would suggest that -public- lists where strategy is formulated to > take over the world, or whatever, might be seen as just a little, > well, naive, when the competition is such as we find. It is more than > easy to steer (a very polite way to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On 09/05/13 22:18, Sean Miller wrote: If Ubuntu wants to become "the OS of choice" then let's PERSUADE rather than force people to provide an option Pre installation is a significant factor, as is investment, and risk, and several other aspects too, in the story. A head-on confrontation with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On 09/05/13 22:18, Sean Miller wrote: If you extended this to the open market as a whole, then every washing machine should have alternative operating systems. No, it's not something I subscribe to. If a "manufacturer" wishes to go with Windows, then that's fine. If Ubuntu wants to become "th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

On 09/05/13 22:18, Sean Miller wrote: let's PERSUADE rather than force Sean - an excerpt from another post related to this sent my moi... > I occasionally go back to same store - not a Linux machine in sight. > Those in the know at the store share my disappointment - but the average > comment i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

If you extended this to the open market as a whole, then every washing machine should have alternative operating systems. No, it's not something I subscribe to. If a "manufacturer" wishes to go with Windows, then that's fine. If Ubuntu wants to become "the OS of choice" then let's PERSUADE rathe