mwuahahaha you poor ITIL slave. I am trying VERY hard to avoid that myself.
And where's my beer?
Regards,
On 07/09/2007, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think you are correct in that companies (directors managers etc) are
> > looking for IT process. But IT departments are run by t
> I think you are correct in that companies (directors managers etc) are
> looking for IT process. But IT departments are run by those people. The
> heads of IT/IT Managers/IT Directors/CTOs (who are on 50k+) are responsible
> for such business. The IT department, or the team itself needs to be ma
Let me just firstly apologise to anyone who got offended by the
generalisation.
Although i do agree that the whole thing came out a bit bias, and a bit
prejudice... it wasn't my intention :)
Re: Matthew Larsens comments on business process:
I think you are correct in that companies (directors man
hey, not all us comp sci people are bad! :-(
I am very much a geek tyvm. I'm a business geek.
I do understand what you are saying though. A lot of comp-sci grads
just want to go away thinking they are the dogs bollocks in
programming and what-not. But that simply isnt important to companies.
Prog
It is weird...
I work with an IT department of say around a hundred people. Of which,
not one IT degree educated person knows how to administer a Linux
system. The only people who will do anything with Linux, Unix etc are
the fiddlers and hackers (mostly no degree or Uni drop-outs).
We run a Wind
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The way i see it, there are 2 types of compter poeple: "Geeks", and
> "Comptuter Experts". (and no offence to those who dont like the term geek)
>
> A Geek doesn't like to be told how/why things work - he/she like to
> figure things out... so probably no university degr
The way i see it, there are 2 types of compter poeple: "Geeks", and
"Comptuter Experts". (and no offence to those who dont like the term
geek)
A Geek doesn't like to be told how/why things work - he/she like to
figure things out... so probably no university degrees etc.
A Computer expert has done
Apologies for the long post.
I've followed this debate with interest. I am a university lecturer and I used
to manage the Industrial Placements Unit at the School of Computing and IT at
the University of Wolverhampton.
One option that is often overlooked is that of university placement stude
Mark Harrison wrote:
>>> Money seems to do quite well in them.Oh, talk about a Freudian slip.
>>> That should have been "Einstein and Monet" :-)
>>>
>>> In my defence, I use a qwerty keyboard :-) :-
>>>
I thought that was the latest nickname for the CEO of M$ :-)
He does all right in them t
Matthew Larsen wrote:
>> However, realise that programming skill is only PART of what a typical
>> employer is looking for - ability to work as part of a team, rather than
>> adopt a "primadona" attitude. If everyone else in the organisation wears
>> suits, don't expect to show up in jeans a T-shir
I can certainly relate to the hardship of breaking into the IT industry,
I personally am not qualified to any sort of recognisable level in IT
specific qualifications/certifications but on the other hand i am far
more knowledgable than 90% of people i know with degrees in IT related
subjects. I
> However, realise that programming skill is only PART of what a typical
> employer is looking for - ability to work as part of a team, rather than
> adopt a "primadona" attitude. If everyone else in the organisation wears
> suits, don't expect to show up in jeans a T-shirt... on the flip side,
> i
Michael Holloway wrote:
> Am i the only one who thinks this, or is it a linux geek prerequisite?
>
I can understand (these days) a Windows support person no longer needing
to understand subnetting, but a Cisco one??
> Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the
> above,
** Matthew Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-06 13:40]:
> On 06/09/07, John Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael Holloway wrote:
> > > Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the above,
> > > i would love to hear it!
> >
> > Go straight to the source:
> >
> > "As a n
I'm interested, but currently doing a placement year then got another
year at uni (comp sci at Manchester). If you dont mind waiting until
2009 drop me an e-mail and i'l forward my CV :-)
Regards,
PS Your not the only one with this problem. Most companies are having
problems recruiting grads (esp
Michael Holloway wrote:
>
> Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the above,
> i would love to hear it!
>
>
Go straight to the source:
"As a new feature, we are beginning to list Ubuntu related job
opportunities offered by employers other than Canonical. If you are an
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 12:53 +0100, Michael Holloway wrote:
>
> Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the
> above, i would love to hear it!
There is the Linuxjobs* mailing list that might help.
* https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs
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In my experience, there are too many MCSE graduates who don't even know
what dual booting is!
I recently did a Cisco course with with 3 guys (all with MCSE) that
didn't even understand the basics of IP sub-netting etc... and yet still
passed the course!!!
Am i the only one who thinks this, or is
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