Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-29 Thread Chris Rowson
Hi Matt, > However, as we've all said on this thread already, Canonical are quite > nice about the issue in general. These are intended to be guidelines, > which we should follow, rather than some kind of dictatorial stance. > > I don't really see how this issue is complicated!! > > Matt It's not

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-28 Thread Matthew East
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 09:21 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > > Not really a turnaround. The trademark policy is quite clear on > > modifying the logo. > > > > http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy > > > > Those have been the same since at least 2005, probably longer. > > > > In which case nowt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-28 Thread Chris Rowson
> Not really a turnaround. The trademark policy is quite clear on > modifying the logo. > > http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy > > Those have been the same since at least 2005, probably longer. > In which case nowt has changed then ;-) So there should be no problem with submitting modi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Matthew East
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Tony Arnold: > Chris, > > Chris Rowson wrote: >>> Organisations have to be very protective about their trademarks. If they >>> are allowed to be used freely as is or modified, then they can lose >>> their trademark status through general usage. Th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Tony Arnold
Chris, Chris Rowson wrote: >> Organisations have to be very protective about their trademarks. If they >> are allowed to be used freely as is or modified, then they can lose >> their trademark status through general usage. The Kleenex company in the >> US had this problem many years ago. I think t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Matthew East
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 17:18 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > > It's likely that they were approved because Canonical have been quite easy > > in the past about this. However Matthew's email shows that they are now > > (rightly, in my opinion) looking to have more consistent logos used. > > Ah OK - So

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Chris Rowson
> Organisations have to be very protective about their trademarks. If they > are allowed to be used freely as is or modified, then they can lose > their trademark status through general usage. The Kleenex company in the > US had this problem many years ago. I think there was a big court case > abou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Tony Arnold
Chris, Chris Rowson wrote: > Ah OK - So Canonical doesn't allow derivative works to be made of > their logo anymore. That's a shame really, as I think it helps foster > links between the community and Canonical. > > I don't work for Canonical - neither do most of the other members of > LoCo gro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Chris Rowson
> It's likely that they were approved because Canonical have been quite easy > in the past about this. However Matthew's email shows that they are now > (rightly, in my opinion) looking to have more consistent logos used. Ah OK - So Canonical doesn't allow derivative works to be made of their log

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Matthew East
On Tue, March 27, 2007 2:55 pm, Dave Murphy wrote: > Chris Rowson wrote: >> Also - when looking at the Demos https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates The >> two sites showcasing the new theme are still using their own logos >> ;-) > > ...and I'm willing to guess (but happy to be proved wrong) that ne

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Dave Murphy
Chris Rowson wrote: > Also - when looking at the Demos https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates The > two sites showcasing the new theme are still using their own logos > ;-) ...and I'm willing to guess (but happy to be proved wrong) that neither of those logos are approved... -- Dave Murphy - http

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Chris Rowson
For example, see > the recent advice from the Ubuntu webmaster for locoteams who customise > the logo - > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-March/001196.html > > So, if redesigning the logo, please follow his guidelines. > > Matt > -- Hi Matt - If following the guidelines, it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Chris Rowson
On 27/03/07, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, see > > the recent advice from the Ubuntu webmaster for locoteams who customise > > the logo - > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-March/001196.html > > > > So, if redesigning the logo, please follow his guide

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-27 Thread Matthew East
On Tue, March 27, 2007 1:09 am, Dave Murphy wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: >> I was under the impression that we can't "use" a logo derived from the >> Ubuntu one without it getting approval first. We have been through that >> process for the current logo. > > The details are here: http://www.ubuntu.co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-26 Thread Chris Rowson
Well - feel free to use if for whatever, like I say - it was an experiment, if you want to submit it as the team logo again (of course if everyone is in agreement) then feel free, if you don't feel free ;-) - I didn't have a particular function in mind when I created it, and donate it freely to the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-26 Thread Dave Murphy
Chris Rowson wrote: > I've been trying to get better at using Gimp and Inkscape and have > created some ubuntu-uk artwork. That's how our current logo came about - I learnt Inkscape whilst I was doing it! > If anyone has any feedback, please feel free to offer constructive > criticism as I am a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-26 Thread Dave Murphy
Alan Pope wrote: > I was under the impression that we can't "use" a logo derived from the > Ubuntu one without it getting approval first. We have been through that > process for the current logo. The details are here: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy In a nutshell, the ubuntu logo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-26 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 10:43:14PM +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: > > > Chris Rowson wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I've been trying to get better at using Gimp and Inkscape and have > > created some ubuntu-uk artwork. It's a single graphic type jobby > > that'd be OK for a forum avatar, desktop icon o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-26 Thread Tony Arnold
Chris Rowson wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've been trying to get better at using Gimp and Inkscape and have > created some ubuntu-uk artwork. It's a single graphic type jobby > that'd be OK for a forum avatar, desktop icon or whatnot > > If anyone likes it, feel free to use it. If anyone has any

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-26 Thread Chris Rowson
Hi folks, I've been trying to get better at using Gimp and Inkscape and have created some ubuntu-uk artwork. It's a single graphic type jobby that'd be OK for a forum avatar, desktop icon or whatnot If anyone likes it, feel free to use it. If anyone has any feedback, please feel free to offer