Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 14/06/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's worth remembering in all this that Canonical has some huge > advantages in NOT being based in the US. > > There are three massive differences between Patent law in the US and > Patent law in Europe. One of them is that there are a whole b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Harrison
Michael wrote: > Chris Jones wrote: > >> (FYI, despite my address, this is all my own opinion - it's just easier >> to keep all the ubuntu lists in one account :) >> >> > I don't know of any sysadmin who doesn't speak his own mind ;) > > I know many... Those NT servers don't look afte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Michael
Chris Jones wrote: > (FYI, despite my address, this is all my own opinion - it's just easier > to keep all the ubuntu lists in one account :) > I don't know of any sysadmin who doesn't speak his own mind ;) Best, Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinf

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Michael wrote: > When CNR technology gets incorporated into Gutsy, I take it that Ubuntu > and Ubuntu alone will be responsible for the content of the servers. I don't think any details have been announced yet as to how it will be arranged, nor the legal implications wrt the Microsoft deal wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Michael
Chris Jones wrote: > Hi > > Lee Tambiah wrote: > >> I hope Ubuntu never signs a deal like this either, but I think we are safe, >> I don't think Mark Shuttleworth is that gullable. >> > > From: http://mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=show&id=6672 > > "So you wouldn’t do a deal? > No, absolutely n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Harrison
Michael wrote: > I only ask because according to LinuxDesktop.com's account of the patent > deal [http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9642338710.html], or at least > the earlier draft pasted up on Ubuntu Forums, there's an EULA involved: > > "According to sources, customers of Linspire's Linspire

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Michael
Chris Jones wrote: > Hi > > Lee Tambiah wrote: > >> I hope Ubuntu never signs a deal like this either, but I think we are safe, >> I don't think Mark Shuttleworth is that gullable. >> > > From: http://mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=show&id=6672 > > "So you wouldn’t do a deal? > No, absolutely n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Lee Tambiah wrote: > I hope Ubuntu never signs a deal like this either, but I think we are safe, > I don't think Mark Shuttleworth is that gullable. From: http://mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=show&id=6672 "So you wouldn’t do a deal? No, absolutely not." Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Lee Tambiah
Linspire are windows wannabe's anyway I guess its great to be involved with Microsoft for them! But with now three distros joining the MS Corp they don't seem to have much faith about Linux not violating patents. These distros are sending out the wrong message and actually believe the FUD. I hope

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Sean Miller
Not impressed... it's the completely wrong direction to be going in... What's next? A Linux distro that prevents you installing any software written by non-US citizens? I recall Micro$oft playing the cheap "Open Source is a danger to National Security" card a few years ago... cheap tricks appea

[ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread alan c
Mmm... selected extract: Under the agreement, Linspire will license Microsoft code related to Voice over Internet Protocol, Windows Media files and TrueType fonts. With the addition of the Microsoft code to Linspire's operating system, us