[ubuntu-uk] 13.04

2013-09-17 Thread Owen Branley
13.04 successfully installed by superuser and now supercedes broken 12.04 LTS. Thanks for help. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 unable to copy folders from a samba share

2013-04-30 Thread George Tripp
Thanks for all your suggestions I'll give them a try when I get a moment. (Pity it's broken though - maybe it'll be fixed in the next LTS :) ) George -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 unable to copy folders from a samba share

2013-04-28 Thread Colin Law
On 28 April 2013 17:02, George Tripp wrote: > Having just installed 13.04 I was a bit surprised to find that I can't copy > folders / files from my 12.04 machine - nautilus hangs. > > This seems to be a known error / bug to do with gvfs. I was hoping there > might be a simple-ish workround of so

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 unable to copy folders from a samba share

2013-04-28 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 28/04/13 17:02, George Tripp wrote: Having just installed 13.04 I was a bit surprised to find that I can't copy folders / files from my 12.04 machine - nautilus hangs. This seems to be a known error / bug to do with gvfs. I was hoping there might be a simple-ish workround of some sort but s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 unable to copy folders from a samba share

2013-04-28 Thread Paul White
Quoting George Tripp : Having just installed 13.04 I was a bit surprised to find that I can't copy folders / files from my 12.04 machine - nautilus hangs. This seems to be a known error / bug to do with gvfs. I was hoping there might be a simple-ish workround of some sort but so far have

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 unable to copy folders from a samba share

2013-04-28 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 28 April 2013 17:02, George Tripp wrote: > Having just installed 13.04 I was a bit surprised to find that I can't > copy folders / files from my 12.04 machine - nautilus hangs. > > This seems to be a known error / bug to do with gvfs. I was hoping there > might be a simple-ish workround of som

[ubuntu-uk] 13.04 unable to copy folders from a samba share

2013-04-28 Thread George Tripp
Having just installed 13.04 I was a bit surprised to find that I can't copy folders / files from my 12.04 machine - nautilus hangs. This seems to be a known error / bug to do with gvfs. I was hoping there might be a simple-ish workround of some sort but so far have failed to find one. Can anyon

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-03-01 Thread Paula Graham
On 01/03/13 02:24, Will Tinsdeall wrote: I use Evolution. I find it the most complete solution for all of my organisational needs. I don't know why they decided to move away from it in the default distro Will > > I dunno, I yoyo between Evolution and TBird - Evolution is much better as office

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-28 Thread Will Tinsdeall
On 28 February 2013 11:30, Tony Pursell wrote: > On 27 February 2013 19:02, Paula Graham wrote: > >> On 27/02/13 10:37, Alan Pope wrote: >> > On 27/02/13 10:24, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: >> >> On 2013-02-27 09:18, Alan Pope wrote: >> >>> At my previous job where Windows + Outlook was the desktop of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-28 Thread Tony Pursell
On 27 February 2013 19:02, Paula Graham wrote: > On 27/02/13 10:37, Alan Pope wrote: > > On 27/02/13 10:24, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > >> On 2013-02-27 09:18, Alan Pope wrote: > >>> At my previous job where Windows + Outlook was the desktop of choice > >>> I've > >>> seen plenty of people do what T

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-27 Thread Paula Graham
On 27/02/13 10:37, Alan Pope wrote: > On 27/02/13 10:24, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: >> On 2013-02-27 09:18, Alan Pope wrote: >>> At my previous job where Windows + Outlook was the desktop of choice >>> I've >>> seen plenty of people do what Tyler described. One of the nice features >>> Windows has whic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27/02/13 10:24, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: On 2013-02-27 09:18, Alan Pope wrote: At my previous job where Windows + Outlook was the desktop of choice I've seen plenty of people do what Tyler described. One of the nice features Windows has which I've never seen Linux desktops do nicely is dragging

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-27 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-02-27 09:18, Alan Pope wrote: > At my previous job where Windows + Outlook was the desktop of choice I've > seen plenty of people do what Tyler described. One of the nice features > Windows has which I've never seen Linux desktops do nicely is dragging and > dropping items from a non-focuss

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 26/02/13 20:37, Liam Proven wrote: That's what, well, everyone I have ever seen using email in my life does. Drag and dropping messages onto an app icon? I am sorry, but WTAF? No! At my previous job where Windows + Outlook was the desktop of choice I've seen plenty of people do what Tyler

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-26 Thread Liam Proven
On 26 February 2013 15:32, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > On 2013-02-26 14:48, Paula Graham wrote: >> Agree, hated Unity at first (and there's still things about it, >> especially lack of customisability) that are annoying) but now that it >> actually works properly - and looks so nice on 13.04 ... > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-26 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-02-26 14:48, Paula Graham wrote: > Agree, hated Unity at first (and there's still things about it, > especially lack of customisability) that are annoying) but now that it > actually works properly - and looks so nice on 13.04 ... One question: can you raise a window while dragging an obje

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-26 Thread Paula Graham
On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote: > Curiously, last week I put Mint on a spare partition just to take a > look. I found I was not enjoying the experience! It was only on > reflection that I realised I was missing the easy Unity experience too > much! I find Unity very usable on PC and netboo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Colin Law
On 21 February 2013 21:59, SuperEngineer wrote: > ... > Anyone thought of just snipping and replying to the relevant part > only... this thread is cheaper than alcohol for confusing the reader ;) Apologies. Gmail makes one lazy as it automatically collapses the previous posts. No excuse I know.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread SuperEngineer
On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 21:43 +, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/02/13 21:40, Colin Law wrote: > > On 21 February 2013 21:37, Gareth France > wrote: > >> On 21/02/13 21:35, Colin Law wrote: > >>> On 21 February 2013 21:21, Gareth France > wrote: > On 21/02/13 21:19, Colin Law wrote: > > O

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 21:40, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 21:37, Gareth France wrote: On 21/02/13 21:35, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 21:21, Gareth France wrote: On 21/02/13 21:19, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 17:41, Gareth France wrote: On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Colin Law
On 21 February 2013 21:37, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/02/13 21:35, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 21 February 2013 21:21, Gareth France wrote: >>> >>> On 21/02/13 21:19, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 17:41, Gareth France wrote: > > On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 21:35, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 21:21, Gareth France wrote: On 21/02/13 21:19, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 17:41, Gareth France wrote: On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote: On 21/02/13 17:28, Gareth France wrote: That's really funny. You've just given the e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Colin Law
On 21 February 2013 21:21, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/02/13 21:19, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 21 February 2013 17:41, Gareth France wrote: >>> >>> On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote: On 21/02/13 17:28, Gareth France wrote: > > That's really funny. You've just given the exact

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 21:19, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 17:41, Gareth France wrote: On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote: On 21/02/13 17:28, Gareth France wrote: That's really funny. You've just given the exact same argument I do, except I'm saying windows are trading usability and unity is a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Colin Law
On 21 February 2013 17:41, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote: >> >> On 21/02/13 17:28, Gareth France wrote: >>> >>> That's really funny. You've just given the exact same argument I do, >>> except I'm saying windows are trading usability and unity is a better >>> experienc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 17:37, Barry Drake wrote: On 21/02/13 17:28, Gareth France wrote: That's really funny. You've just given the exact same argument I do, except I'm saying windows are trading usability and unity is a better experience. I really don't see the problem with it. Curiously, last week I p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Barry Drake
On 21/02/13 17:28, Gareth France wrote: That's really funny. You've just given the exact same argument I do, except I'm saying windows are trading usability and unity is a better experience. I really don't see the problem with it. Curiously, last week I put Mint on a spare partition just to ta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 17:01, Will Tinsdeall wrote: On 21 February 2013 16:28, Paul Sutton > wrote: On 21/02/13 16:23, Barry Drake wrote: > On 21/02/13 16:15, Paul Sutton wrote: >> Why,?? dumbing down is fine for perhaps home users in theory, or >> people with no tec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Colin Law
On 21 February 2013 17:05, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > On 2013-02-21 16:23, Barry Drake wrote: >> It's not 'dumbing >> down' but rather due to sweeping changes in whatever widget library >> Nautilus is built from. (GTK - QT - DUNNO ). > > Nautilus is built on GTK and Gnome. And no, the dumbing do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Kris Douglas
On 21 February 2013 17:05, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > Nautilus is built on GTK and Gnome. And no, the dumbing down has nothing to > do with the widget library. Nemo, built on the same libraries, works fine > and has all the power features Nautilus used to have. From the look of Nemo > (especially it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-02-21 16:23, Barry Drake wrote: > It's not 'dumbing > down' but rather due to sweeping changes in whatever widget library > Nautilus is built from. (GTK - QT - DUNNO ). Nautilus is built on GTK and Gnome. And no, the dumbing down has nothing to do with the widget library. Nemo, built o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Will Tinsdeall
On 21 February 2013 16:28, Paul Sutton wrote: > On 21/02/13 16:23, Barry Drake wrote: > > On 21/02/13 16:15, Paul Sutton wrote: > >> Why,?? dumbing down is fine for perhaps home users in theory, or > >> people with no technical ability, and they will stay like that, as > >> they can't learn anyth

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Sutton
On 21/02/13 16:23, Barry Drake wrote: > On 21/02/13 16:15, Paul Sutton wrote: >> Why,?? dumbing down is fine for perhaps home users in theory, or >> people with no technical ability, and they will stay like that, as >> they can't learn anything, if they want help it makes life very hard >> for old

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Barry Drake
On 21/02/13 16:15, Paul Sutton wrote: Why,?? dumbing down is fine for perhaps home users in theory, or people with no technical ability, and they will stay like that, as they can't learn anything, if they want help it makes life very hard for old school hackers to do anything to help people, I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Sutton
>> In 12.10 this was controlled via Nautilus, Edit > Preferences > >> Behaviour > Run Executable Files when opened. Raring includes a major >> upgrade to Nautilus and they have removed lots of useful stuff (not >> the Ubuntu developers, the Nautilus developers) so it may no longer be >> there or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 16:00, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 21 February 2013 15:56, Gareth France > wrote: On 21/02/13 15:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: On 2013-02-21 15:10, Colin Law wrote: In 12.10 this was controlled via Nautilus, Edit >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 21 February 2013 15:56, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/02/13 15:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > >> On 2013-02-21 15:10, Colin Law wrote: >> >>> In 12.10 this was controlled via Nautilus, Edit > Preferences > >>> Behaviour > Run Executable Files when opened. Raring includes a major >>> upgrade to N

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 15:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: On 2013-02-21 15:10, Colin Law wrote: In 12.10 this was controlled via Nautilus, Edit > Preferences > Behaviour > Run Executable Files when opened. Raring includes a major upgrade to Nautilus and they have removed lots of useful stuff (not the Ubuntu de

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
On 21/02/13 15:10, Colin Law wrote: On 21 February 2013 14:56, Gareth France wrote: I've taken the plunge and upgraded, mostly out of boredom I think. It seems rather shakey at the moment. Sound works, then it doesn't. Intel video needs much prodding before it's usable and today everything was

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-02-21 15:10, Colin Law wrote: > In 12.10 this was controlled via Nautilus, Edit > Preferences > > Behaviour > Run Executable Files when opened. Raring includes a major > upgrade to Nautilus and they have removed lots of useful stuff (not > the Ubuntu developers, the Nautilus developers) so

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Colin Law
On 21 February 2013 14:56, Gareth France wrote: > I've taken the plunge and upgraded, mostly out of boredom I think. It seems > rather shakey at the moment. Sound works, then it doesn't. Intel video needs > much prodding before it's usable and today everything was running at half > speed for a whi

[ubuntu-uk] 13.04 behaves differently...

2013-02-21 Thread Gareth France
I've taken the plunge and upgraded, mostly out of boredom I think. It seems rather shakey at the moment. Sound works, then it doesn't. Intel video needs much prodding before it's usable and today everything was running at half speed for a while. However what intrigues me is that there are a nu