Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-28 Thread alan c
Matthew Larsen wrote: > Hey Chris, > > Nice article although I feel you fall into the 'non-techie explanation > trap' as I call it. The article is aimed at non techie readers, so a non techie explanation is needed. Most of the computer users I know use a computer they use Windows. Period. They

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-28 Thread Matthew Larsen
s purely to get people talking about them. And a venture > into selling Linux PCs got them on the news too. It worked though, they > are one of the only independent UK OEMs still going (just about). > > > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-24 Thread Darren.Mansell
Very interesting. Thanks :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Harrison Sent: 24 July 2007 07:38 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Fair enough. It&

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-24 Thread Darren.Mansell
July 2007 18:46 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Fair enough. It's a difficult balance between factually correct and > marketing. Understood. Marketing is to achieve an objective, though not quite at any co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Mark Harrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Fair enough. It's a difficult balance between factually correct and > marketing. > > I left it as viruses because I thought virii may be too confusing for > the uninitiated? I'm impressed by the leaflet by the way. > > Wikipedia and the Oxford English Dictionary both

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Fair enough. It's a difficult balance between factually correct and > marketing. Understood. Marketing is to achieve an objective, though not quite at any cost. However, the sound bites and advert bites or whatever that we find ourselves immersed in, in the various med

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
I've just read through the article outloud (I often find it helps to pick out small errors in readability) and edited a word here and there. I think that it reads OK to me now. I might run with it unless anyone else has anything to add Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Darren.Mansell
On Behalf Of alan c Sent: 23 July 2007 17:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Reads very nicely to me now. I also agree with the other point that > we are quite within our rights to push the boat back out a bit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Reads very nicely to me now. I also agree with the other point that > we are quite within our rights to push the boat back out a bit more > WRT virii. I heartily agree. When the competition has a poor product fro years, but good marketing, it is certainly the time to use

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
Can I just remind people that there is a launchpad group set up for ubuntu-uk marketing activities. I try to keep it up to date: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk-marketing It's worth joining the group as then you'll get notified whenever there are new projects, updates etc etc. Chee

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Chris Rowson wrote: > Ubuntu stands up very well against online security threats. Because of > the way it is built, it is exceptionally resilient against viruses. If I was feeling particularly pedantic I'd object to "exceptionally" (because there are lots of UNIXy things, so maybe "exceedingly

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Darren.Mansell
July 2007 15:32 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag > No not at all, I agree with you. I would like to see the part about > rarely crashing staying out though. I've never had it crash through > something that wasn't my own doi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
> But then "doesn't get" implies it's somehow impossible, which it isn't. > > I would maybe say something like "Ubuntu inherits over 3 decades of > secure design, making infection by viruses or spyware exceedingly > difficult (to date there are no known cases)." > Currently reads Ubuntu stands up

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: >> Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted >> conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. >> > > > Whilst I do like the edits, I worry that they make the article seem a > little more caustic and technical. The audience I had i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Jones
Hi alan c wrote: > To 'rarely' get a virus supposes that a virus has actually been 'got'. But then "doesn't get" implies it's somehow impossible, which it isn't. I would maybe say something like "Ubuntu inherits over 3 decades of secure design, making infection by viruses or spyware exceedingly

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
> No not at all, I agree with you. I would like to see the part about > rarely crashing staying out though. I've never had it crash through > something that wasn't my own doing ;) > I've merged the conflicts and reworded slightly - what'da ya think? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
Alec Wright wrote: > Pretty good, but: > "Ubuntu doesn't get viruses" should be "Ubuntu rarely gets viruses". I appreciate your point. However, as of recently, are there *any* reports of ubuntu suffering from viruses? To 'rarely' get a virus supposes that a virus has actually been 'got'. With 60

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Darren.Mansell
July 2007 15:21 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag > Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted > conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. > Whilst I do like the edits, I worry th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
> Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted > conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. > Whilst I do like the edits, I worry that they make the article seem a little more caustic and technical. The audience I had in mind when writing the article

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Darren.Mansell
Chris Rowson Sent: 23 July 2007 15:09 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag > "Linux runs the entire internet" should be "Linux runs about half of the > internet" as about 50% of websites are hosted on linux. > I know

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
> "Linux runs the entire internet" should be "Linux runs about half of the > internet" as about 50% of websites are hosted on linux. > I know it's probably misstating the fact 'slightly' but I'm not just on about hosting, I'm including bind, dns, dhcp etc etc ... Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
Edited to say rarely gets viruses Made less fanboy'ey !! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
> Do you mind if I edit a little more? You can always change it back That's the idea folks ;-) Get in there and edit it - it's just a concept. I have the original anyway. I just want something effective and I'm not big headed enough to assume I have all the answers ;-) Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Darren.Mansell
ittle more? You can always change it back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 23 July 2007 13:58 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag As promised, I've had a bash at writing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Alec Wright
Pretty good, but: "Ubuntu doesn't get viruses" should be "Ubuntu rarely gets viruses". You should point out that antivirus & firewalls slow down your computer. "Linux runs the entire internet" should be "Linux runs about half of the internet" as about 50% of websites are hosted on linux. Also, you

[ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread Chris Rowson
As promised, I've had a bash at writing something which would be suitable for inclusion in a local magazine. As always please correct, suggest and improve :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArticleForLocalMagazine Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/u