Alan Pope wrote:
> 2008/11/8 alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> It seems that some problems are associated with xorg and its (now)
>> lack of visible configuration. I could usually stumble in the right
>> direction when xorg.conf was meaningful, even using vi, but I am
>> quite lost in the current sit
Lucy wrote:
> On 08/11/2008, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
>> one of the elderly people I help with ubuntu/Kubuntu (aged 85) did on one
>> occasion click the Version upgrade innocently going from LTS 6.06 to
>> the next version, and there were a few problems - which I later caught
>
In message of 8 Nov, "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote:
> > I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't
> > really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4
> > but I think this
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster
I think we've actually got three different types of user to accomm
ought of such a post release
> update and the expectations as to what it should actually contain?
>
> Ian
>
> Ian
>
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> Sent: 08 November 2008 17:56
> To: British Ubun
l Sutton
Sent: 08 November 2008 17:56
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster
gav wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>
>> I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can'
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 18:06 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> 2008/11/8 Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Sean Miller wrote:
> > > We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told
> >> him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY
> >> screws everything.
> >>
> >
>
On 08/11/2008, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> one of the elderly people I help with ubuntu/Kubuntu (aged 85) did on one
> occasion click the Version upgrade innocently going from LTS 6.06 to
> the next version, and there were a few problems - which I later caught
> up with ok, but i
2008/11/8 alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It seems that some problems are associated with xorg and its (now)
> lack of visible configuration. I could usually stumble in the right
> direction when xorg.conf was meaningful, even using vi, but I am
> quite lost in the current situations, with the minim
Alan Pope wrote:
> 2008/11/8 alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I have just tried kubuntu 8.10 Live CD for the first time and I am
>> deeply troubled by what I find.
>>
>
> I just booted Kubuntu 8.10 on my Dell XPS laptop and it seemed quite
> nice. I'm no fan of KDE but I can see how it might appeal
gav wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>> I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't
>> really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4
>> but I think this leads to an interesting question:
>>
>> If we
Lucy wrote:
[...]
>I've also had problems with the latest Ubuntu and I think
> some of the problems he's experienced could also affect Ubuntu too.
> Oddly enough though I'm quite keen to try out KDE again, to see how I
> feel with it's latest changes.
Newbie nightmares aside, the new kubuntu - (kd
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 05:55:46PM +, Paul Sutton wrote:
> I thought this was a matter of course for most operating systems, wait
> a while, see if there any major issues then upgrade, of course if
> everyone did that we would not identify issues, perhaps also as
> advocates we should inst
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/11/8 Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Sean Miller wrote:
> > > We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told
> >> him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY
> >> screws ever
That could be right, Alan... I'm not sure what my friend has done
exactly, but what's happened is that on bootup nvidia fails to load
and if we select the restricted driver the machine won't boot... it
won't even go into x at all. We then have to do a dpkg-reconfigure to
reset the graphics to the
2008/11/8 Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sean Miller wrote:
> > We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told
>> him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY
>> screws everything.
>>
>
> Ahh so I'm not the only one to think this then?
>
> When I upgrad
Sean Miller wrote:
> We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told
> him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY
> screws everything.
>
Ahh so I'm not the only one to think this then?
When I upgrade I'll be most probably going back to an ATI X300 vi
I've spent the day trying to help a potter with his Kubuntu 8.10 woes.
Great laugh on a Saturday!
We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told
him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY
screws everything.
Sean
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gav wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>
>> I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't
>> really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4
>> but I think this leads to an interesting question:
>>
>> I
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote:
> I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't
> really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4
> but I think this leads to an interesting question:
>
> If we're to advocate Li
On 08/11/2008, Bruce Beardall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned, Ubuntu]
> should we be concentrating our advocacy on the LTS release? It's all too
> easy for anyone on this list to get carried away with the latest and
> greatest but the v
2008/11/8 alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have just tried kubuntu 8.10 Live CD for the first time and I am
> deeply troubled by what I find.
>
I just booted Kubuntu 8.10 on my Dell XPS laptop and it seemed quite
nice. I'm no fan of KDE but I can see how it might appeal to someone
looking at XP or
Bruce Beardall wrote:
> I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I
> can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory
> glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question:
>
> If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned
I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't
really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4
but I think this leads to an interesting question:
If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned, Ubuntu]
should we be concentrat
I have just tried kubuntu 8.10 Live CD for the first time and I am
deeply troubled by what I find.
I have had difficulty trying to run it, and when I have found a
machine and a way to run it, I find I am then totally confused.
This is all bad news for advocacy activities - I am an energetic
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