Re: [ubuntu-uk] Temperature

2011-07-04 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
If you use Icinga or Nagios you can set Warnings and Critical states. Checks can occur at specified intervals along with any other checks you might want to do (memory/cpu load, disk space, etc)the temperature checks need lm-sensors installed though. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin

2011-06-21 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
>> On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 13:59 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote: >>> > Hello Everyone, > I've cracked it... You're not the only one ;-) I'd personally avoid making webmin publicly available. Consider using iptables or (ufw) to restrict access to your IP if you have a static, or you could only allow acce

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.

2011-05-21 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On May 21, 2011 6:28 PM, "Jon Spriggs" Every now and then, I look at X2GO and FreeNX and remind myself that > it's not really doing much more than a tunnel to a method of > displaying X, and that my way works. that said... I actively encourage the use of FreeNX, as it has some useful features

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microsoft proprietary file types?

2011-05-19 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On May 20, 2011 6:19 AM, "Sean Miller" wrote: > I'd be very wary of using somebody for IT services who didn't appear to know that Openoffice would open those three file formats... > OpenOffice/libreoffice will open them happily.whether the content of them is displayed as intended by the origi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Booting to ubuntu with VM, for now -- advice needed

2011-05-12 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
> On 11 May at 1:15, doug livesey wrote: > > > Hi -- so this is being typed from an Ubuntu VM under Mac OSX. I've > > given up the hope of dual-booting for now -- maybe I'll try again > > sometime later with 10.04. However, I have 8 gig RAM on my MBP, yet > > seem only to be able to assign less th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] empathy-skype-evolution

2011-03-07 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:05 PM, andres wrote: > >> Hello me again; >> >> I've slightly looked into this but not with full intensity just wanted >> to know if any of you had done it: >> >&g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] empathy-skype-evolution

2011-03-07 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:05 PM, andres wrote: > Hello me again; > > I've slightly looked into this but not with full intensity just wanted > to know if any of you had done it: > > I got this new smartphone/minicomputer nokia n900 (just two days before > the platform anouncement) and it's a prett

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
I now have a problem sharing directories on the Netbook. If I right-click on a directory and choose "Sharing Options" and check the "Share this folder" box it now says : > 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name > "Everyone" to a SID. Memory allocation error. > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 01/03/11 16:51, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote: > >> You should get something similar to the following: >> >> $ sudo ufw status >> Status: active >> >> Status inactive. > What does that i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 01/03/11 16:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote: > >> >> Why should the access be OK one way but not the other? >> > > Firewall

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > > Why should the access be OK one way but not the other? > Firewall rules? Samba server started? Check ufw status on both machines, and output netstat -auntp to see whether the necessary samba ports are open and samba is listening fo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unable to share files over network.

2011-02-21 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:09 PM, ian pettitt wrote: > > If you only want to share files between Ubuntu machines, using a secure > connection, SSH is an option > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS > > Nautilus supports this by default - for fast and easy transfer, simply open Nautilus and i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CloneZilla live ...

2011-02-11 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Rob Beard wrote: > > I too now swear by CloneZilla, I like the fact it works with both Linux and > Windows (XP at least, not tried restoring any Vista, Server 2003/8 or > Windows 7 machines). I now have it on my server and netboot machines. It's > also handy for th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Distro hopping / Laptop running hot

2011-01-09 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Steve Fisher wrote: > > Mandriva - I am a refugee from Mandriva, looking bad over on the forums, > hardly any one there! Worked well, hardware recognised (and I know what I > am doing!) > > Fedora - didn't like it, could fry an egg on my trackpad! > IMHO Fedora i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diaspora

2011-01-07 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
Likewise, if anyone has an invite going spare then I'd be interested in giving it a go! Many thanks Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mint 9 and Windows 2000 Server

2010-10-24 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Paul Jones wrote: > > > Are the system admin? If not I would be careful about putting a non-work > PC on the corporate LAN. > > Without admin rights you wouldn't be able to join the domain anyway! As mentioned earlier in the thread, Likewise Open is the best (we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Andy Partington wrote: > > I use Nagios at work on a CentOS install, the company I work for use SME ( > God it's horrible ) but it's also based on CentOS so you can work your way > round it. > > Feel free to fire questions at me, guys in #nagios on Freenode are v

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

2010-10-17 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
Skipton, North Yorkshire here. Incidentally we support Linux and Windows boxes (server and workstation). For commercial reasons we avoid domestic support though, but for business we're happy to provide informal advice or paid consultancy. I believe it's against list rules(?) to shamelessly plug

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 System Freeze Problem

2010-10-16 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
Apologies for the top post...old version of android! If you have a second box you could configure it as a remote syslog server.. On 16 Oct 2010 15:19, "Nigel Verity" wrote: Hi Guys Since clean-installing Xubuntu 10.10 on an Acer 1410 laptop, the system is freezing up once or twice during a da

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

2010-10-14 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Paul Tansom wrote: > > Support wise, I can sympathise, although based on experience when asking > questions on Windows forums. The first one that comes to mind is Experts > Exchange (now a pay site and abandoned), but there have been others. > EE is still a ver

Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommend a small form factor pc

2010-09-23 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:53 AM, pmgazz wrote: > > I've got Puppee on my eeepc because as soon as I open Firefox on Lucid, the > processor starts running at 100% with appalling latency - Puppee it runs > beautifully. Or just use standard Puppy. > > Have a look at Crunchbang as an option. M

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Latency on 10.04LTS WUBI

2010-09-08 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Sean Miller wrote: > Why would fragmentation cause latency? > > Sean Heavy load on disk controllers while they seek would add to the overall CPU load. I wouldn't say this is likely to be the exclusive cause of the symptoms you are seeing - just a pitfall that I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Latency on 10.04LTS WUBI

2010-09-08 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Alan Pope wrote: > > Just as an aside (and I'm not discounting the possibility of hardware issue - this seems likely) what's the drive fragmentation like on the host drive? The curse of installing an Ext3/4 container on an NTFS partition is that the container is s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samba Shares

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > try running sudo chmod 777 * on the directorys and files > > Arghhh - while it's entirely possible that this might resolve the issue, that's possibly the WORST thing you can do to resolve a permissions based issue! Please don't ever sugges

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leeds & Surrounding Area - IT Businesses

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote: > Likewise - we have an IT support company in Skipton and would possibly be > interested :) Drop me an email to discuss, let me know the dates and we'll > try to get involved! > > Arghhh - apologies for the top post

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leeds & Surrounding Area - IT Businesses

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
Likewise - we have an IT support company in Skipton and would possibly be interested :) Drop me an email to discuss, let me know the dates and we'll try to get involved! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Simon Greenwood wrote: > Might be worth asking this on GeekUp. I'm in Leeds and would be intere

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preventing a hack attempt

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
> On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 01:22 +0100, Daniel Case wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > One of my servers has recently been attacked, it has one remote SSH > > user which cannot run 'sudo', i made it like that so that if it was > > comprimized, no-one would be able to do much. > > > > However, someone mana

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Cornelius Mostert < corneliusmost...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Or buy a Sheva plug fro $99 I think this is a nice little ting > http://www.plugcomputer.org/index.php/home > And they do have UK versions > Yes - I can vouch for t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
> Oh, if 13.04 is Raffish Roach do I get a prize? I do!! Personalised distro ;) :D -- Sent from my Nokia N900 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] SYS flood and Port scan concern

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
- Original message - > Hi all, > > Three days ago had a new internet connection installed and today have > checked the logs on my router. I was a little concerned to find 4-5 > TCP/UDP port scans followed by 15-20 SYN floods occuring about every 20 > minutes for the past THREE days! > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What to do about black hole of broadband

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Yorvyk wrote: > I do have my doubts about the speeds shown on this site. It shows my > street at less than 1Mb, despite the fact had an upgrade three months ago > and now get 3-3.5 Mb. My friends village shows speeds only available with > fibre-optic, which it do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Rsync to a remote computer

2010-08-04 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
> > On 4 August 2010 12:23, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote: > I'd also suggest that if you don't trust the medium between the 2 machines (ie, the internet) then you might want to consider running rsync over ssh. http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/rsync.htm :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://list

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for small business

2010-07-27 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
- Original message - > I've been reading the list for a few weeks (and posted once to get gmane > set up and tested) in preparation for an upcoming job. I have a contact > who is keen on using open source wherever possible in a new startup > company, so I am looking for any kind of resou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Distributed Backup Proposal

2010-07-24 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
- Original message - > On 24/07/10 08:40, Dan Fish wrote: > I have a simple bash script that gets called every night at various > intervals as a cron job on my little home server. What it does is backup > stuff from every machine in our house that I want backed up to one or > more of th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > Real Debian is getting pretty good these days - it's smaller and > faster than Ubuntu and the default Gnome desktop is much the same. It > was just that getting firmware for my wifi card and so on was a bit of > a pain. It is vastly easier to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > > Me, I'm watching Crunchbang with interest, but it's not a beginners' > distro. > Crunchbang is awesome - I set it up for my wife who was complaining about performance on her EEEPC 701, and have since run it on other hardware that has less t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Disappearing windows

2010-07-05 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Andy Dixon wrote: > Hi, > > I had this before in the past. click on the window on the bottom bar, press > alt+space, press the down arrow key 3 times, press enter, then move the > mouse around and it should appear. > > If you do it wrong, it'll anger the rain gods

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using computer's internet connection on phone via bluetooth

2010-07-05 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Nexus One, but I don't have a wireless router in my college > accommodation and I'm not allowed to install one. I was wondering if > anyone knew a way to connect my phone to my computer's internet > connection via bluetooth.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Disappearing windows

2010-07-02 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Cornelius Mostert < corneliusmost...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > My question is how do I get the window to appear again?? I could open > another window (like terminal window - if it is the terminal window > that disappeared) but how do I get the disappeared one back

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 64-bit not recommended for daily use?

2010-06-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Markie wrote: > > I thought there was something that I hadnt noticed that was going to pop up > later. Im using this on my everyday work laptop so I just wanted to check > there was nothing that meant I needed to go back to 32-bit. Better to do it > now than later.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-30 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/29/2010 06:27 PM, John Stevenson wrote: > > I use the social media enhancements and find them very useful, I would be > surprised if they are causing any significant load, I certainly cant see > that when I look at the processes loading the syst

Re: [ubuntu-uk] sudo

2010-05-20 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > On Thursday 20 May 2010 14:11:28 Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > On 20/05/10 13:00, Alan Pope wrote: > > > You pretty much never need to logon as root. You can 'become' root like > > > with:- > > > > > > sudo -s > > > > Hmmm, when I do this I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell with Ubuntu?

2010-05-19 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: > > they do them, but they seem to imply that you need to be some sort of > techy person to use it, it points out that some programs may not be > compatable with others, given that openoffice can work with office > files and can also work with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] When buying a new pc...

2010-05-11 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Chris Rowson wrote: > > I've never tried, but it'd probably be a laugh to go to PC World with a > bunch of live CDs, insert them into the PCs and reboot them (observing the > resultant chaos). > > Chris > > I can't remember what the correct terminology, but there w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Media Centre Advice

2010-05-11 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Stephen Garton wrote: > > That's a fair point, I also used to run XBMC on an original xbox. > I can also vouch for XBMC on the original Xbox and also on a custom desktop PC. XBMC supports remote control via a browser (so fine on an iPhone and N900, or anything e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > > 2x "Six-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2425 HE" > > :) > > Cheers, > Al. > > Hmmm.that's some serious processing powerthe CPU's in your machine cost more than my car!! and probably go faster ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://li

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler Remote Desktop sharing

2010-04-25 Thread paul morgan-roach
> FreeNX is good, but it'll give you a separate X session rather than a > session to the desktop running on the Joggler screen. In the FreeNX client you can specify a shadow session which joins the currently running X session. Not tried this with the joggler, but i use this for my desktop at wo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital Economy Act - the OFCOM code

2010-04-24 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I originally posted this email to my users' list as I have some > customers who are concerned about the Digital Economy Act. I was > asked to repost it here as it may be of interest, so I'm editing it > a little and doing so. > thank

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Zeus virus targets Firefox

2010-04-24 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Barry Titterton < barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com> wrote: > > Cheers Ashley, > > I suppose it is asking too much for the BBC to mention that their scare > reports are for Windows users only. > > Barry > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-24 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jon Spriggs wrote: > Just to explain why the ping test is probably in Shields-up, is that... > > In times long-gone, and around about when Shields-Up was being created, > many people would be using Dial-up, and even getting a ping from an IP > address in a dial-up

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Warning to all users of Samba

2010-04-21 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:29 AM, John Stevenson wrote: > > Am I wrong in thinking this post is really a warning about not setting you > router up securely? > > If you are unable to control the router or the IP address your Ubuntu box > is assigned, then you can always run a firewall and/or AppAm

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Warning to all users of Samba

2010-04-20 Thread paul morgan-roach
> On 20/04/10 19:14, Daniel Case wrote: > > > Never, ever leave Samba open without due care and attention, all too > > often i see people telling others to install Samba without warning them > > of the possible implications, many people > > are quite lazy, and instead of settings everything up, wil

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Backup strategies: [Was Hard drive- Bad sectors]

2010-04-19 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:01 AM, mac wrote: > > I can see that in an office, with a lot of data, having hourly, daily, > weekly, etc., snapshots is much more important. > > Not sure if it's any use to anyone on here, but backuppc (available in the repositories) is a very nice solution, as it's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting up the web interface for VLC in ubuntu/Linuxmint?

2010-04-14 Thread paul morgan-roach
> On 13 April 2010 12:26, Jon Reynolds wrote: > > > And so VLC is running on a computer somewhere...so the music or video > > comes out of that computer, not the client you are using to access the > > web interface? That sounds good! if it's of interest to anyone, XBMC does similar...it runs a we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 3G wireless on 9.10 or 10.4

2010-04-09 Thread paul morgan-roach
> I would like to use Orange and they say the dongle does not support > Linux.  I suspect the dongle does, and orange are choosing not to > (whereas another of the big five have set up a repository to support > their dongles). From what I have read online, some folk have had some > success with som

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-08 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Daniel Case wrote: > Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog: > > www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler > > Daniel, just to clarify is that working *with* sound? I'm tempted to give this a go next week, but have been enjoying using the upnp playback that work

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Ashley Whetter < ashley.whet...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I've also emailed my MP. A good site for messaging your MP was on the > Ubuntu uk podcast: www.writetothem.com. The third hearing of the bill > should be on BBC Parliament today but I'm not sure what time it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > I ordered one yesterday on-line and I had a dispatch email yesterday > evening saying it will be with me today. Not bad at all at just £49.99 > inc VAT and Shipping. > > Cheers > > Al > > I got the same - so Online appears to be the way f

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Bob Giles wrote: > > Methinks it is time to fire up LogMeIn and speak to them via Cambridge! > > Logmein?? just ssh -D to a box in this country and set your browser to use localhost: as a socks proxy :) :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case wrote: > Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were > out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster. > > Just ordered mine online and expecting it in < 5days... something to play with when I'm on Holiday next week. Wonderi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for a Speccy

2010-03-26 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
I don't have a speccybut do have an old acorn electron - would that do? What's the project? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] File Transfers

2010-03-16 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
Any traffic destined for the local network will route exclusively to that network. As mentioned previously if you are on 192.168.1.1/24 and you send a file to 192.168.1.10, then routing occurs on the local machine. A broadcast ARP packet is sent to establish the MAC address of the machine and sub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power server

2010-01-22 Thread paul morgan-roach
Have a look at the sheevaplug from www.newit.co.uk! It's small and performs amazingly! Roachy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/