Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wine on Precise

2012-05-04 Thread Barry Drake
On 04/05/12 22:43, Gareth France wrote: The Pokerstars poker client has always been a little flakey under wine. The newest version tends to crash about once a minute, but installing an older version of wine instead produced a stable result. It stopped working after my upgrade, can't connect to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 12:18, scoundrel50a wrote: > Since I had to do the reinstall, I keep getting crash reports, a > lot more than what I was getting when it was running beta 1.I > click on the crash report logo, it brings up the box, which shows > what has

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Pete Smout
On 04/05/12 22:39, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 12:28, Keith Burnett wrote: Hello Alan and all So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical support contract. How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to appear in s

[ubuntu-uk] Wine on Precise

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
The Pokerstars poker client has always been a little flakey under wine. The newest version tends to crash about once a minute, but installing an older version of wine instead produced a stable result. It stopped working after my upgrade, can't connect to the remote server. Having looked at what's i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-04 Thread Tony Pursell
On 4 May 2012 22:32, Tony Pursell wrote: > > > On 4 May 2012 21:17, Colin Law wrote: > >> On 4 May 2012 20:18, scoundrel50a wrote: >> > Since I had to do the reinstall, I keep getting crash reports, a lot >> more >> > than what I was getting when it was running beta 1.I click on the >> cras

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 12:28, Keith Burnett wrote: > Hello Alan and all > > So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical > support contract. > > How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to > appear in software update? > Yup.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-04 Thread Tony Pursell
On 4 May 2012 21:17, Colin Law wrote: > On 4 May 2012 20:18, scoundrel50a wrote: > > Since I had to do the reinstall, I keep getting crash reports, a lot more > > than what I was getting when it was running beta 1.I click on the > crash > > report logo, it brings up the box, which shows what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 May 2012 20:18, scoundrel50a wrote: > Since I had to do the reinstall, I keep getting crash reports, a lot more > than what I was getting when it was running beta 1.I click on the crash > report logo, it brings up the box, which shows what has crashed and where it > says submit, I click a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Andy Braben
On 4 May 2012 20:28, Keith Burnett wrote: > Hello Alan and all > > So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical support > contract. > > How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to appear in > software update? > > Cheers > --Original Message-- > From: Alan

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Keith Burnett
Hello Alan and all So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical support contract. How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to appear in software update? Cheers --Original Message-- From: Alan Bell Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Bell
On 04/05/12 19:59, Dave Morley wrote: You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it. um, do be careful not to accidentally overshoot and upgrade to Quantal Quetzal! upgrade-manager -d will show releases in developme

[ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-04 Thread scoundrel50a
Since I had to do the reinstall, I keep getting crash reports, a lot more than what I was getting when it was running beta 1.I click on the crash report logo, it brings up the box, which shows what has crashed and where it says submit, I click and nothing happens, so I cant submit the crash

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Andy Braben
On 4 May 2012 19:59, Dave Morley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/05/12 19:48, Pete Smout wrote: > > Hi, I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop > > / server) and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now), > > yet the graphical u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Dave Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 19:48, Pete Smout wrote: > Hi, I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop > / server) and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now), > yet the graphical update manager is not informing me that an > upgrade is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Kris Douglas
On 4 May 2012 19:55, Anton Kanishchev wrote: > I dont know if this would work but would burning a dvd of 12.04 lts and > mounting it on your machine not allow you to update anyway??? > > > On 4 May 2012 19:48, Pete Smout wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Anton Kanishchev
I dont know if this would work but would burning a dvd of 12.04 lts and mounting it on your machine not allow you to update anyway??? On 4 May 2012 19:48, Pete Smout wrote: > Hi, > I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop / server) > and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully up

[ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Pete Smout
Hi, I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop / server) and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now), yet the graphical update manager is not informing me that an upgrade is possible even though I have it set to show LTS versions only. If I set it to 'normal r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Dave Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: > On 04/05/12 07:16, Gareth France wrote: >> I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. >> It always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me >> getting shouted at by people. > > Wh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] update/upgrade issues and help - was12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Alan Pope wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/05/12 00:59, Barry Drake wrote: > > On 04/05/12 08:19, Alan Pope wrote: > >> What specific investigations have led you to believe that update > >> manager is the issue? I'm not trying to l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
> What does this tell you? :) > > I'm happy to help people file bugs and help gather the "right" > information to make them the best bugs they can be. > > The easiest way to file bugs is most often dropping to a terminal and > running the following:- > > ubuntu-bug unity > > (replacing "unity" with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] update/upgrade issues and help - was12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Barry Drake
On 04/05/12 16:58, Alan Pope wrote: One interestingly useful command which 'fixes' many issues relating to bits missing is this:- sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ (note the caret on the end). This causes apt to attempt to install the ubuntu-desktop task which pulls in ev

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 07:16, Gareth France wrote: > I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. It > always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me getting > shouted at by people. What does this tell you? :) I'm happy to help

Re: [ubuntu-uk] update/upgrade issues and help - was12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 00:59, Barry Drake wrote: > On 04/05/12 08:19, Alan Pope wrote: >> What specific investigations have led you to believe that update >> manager is the issue? I'm not trying to labour the point, but >> just illustrate that one mans fix is an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread kpb
On 04/05/12 08:25, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-04 08:59, Alan Pope wrote: It's funny you should ask that. I'm at a Canonical product sprint this week and one of our tasks was to review the 12.04 release and make suggestions for how things coul

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Piskie
On 04/05/12 15:16, Gareth France wrote: I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. It always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me getting shouted at by people. I have posted on forums for pre-release versions, the intention being to say 'I'm having this i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread kpb
On 04/05/12 07:59, Alan Pope wrote: One point which came up was that 12.04 was very stable from very early on in the cycle. There were very few catastrophic breakages which led to a broken desktop (such as X version migrations or compiz/unity inconsistencies in packaging). It was (more often th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
> > However, I'm not sure if the developer's particularly want bugs of this > sort reported. The problem being that they are upstream issues and it > seems that Ubuntu developers cannot do much about them until the fix > trickles down, if it ever does. The best they can do, it seems, is to keep >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Tony Pursell
On 4 May 2012 07:59, Alan Pope wrote: > Things break and when > they do we should help people to fix them or file bugs so developers > can fix the issue. > > If we don't then we're doing a disservice to the next person who has > the issue. > I agree with this wholeheartedly and I have often po

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
I was working on exactly that theory. I just screwed up! On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Matthew Daubney wrote: > On 4 May 2012 09:42, Gareth France wrote: > > I'm sorry to say that we're not going to get an answer to this one. I > made a > > bit of a mistake. I found that I've now got 2 sepera

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 4 May 2012 09:42, Gareth France wrote: > I'm sorry to say that we're not going to get an answer to this one. I made a > bit of a mistake. I found that I've now got 2 seperate issues, first that my > grafted home folder naturally has permissions issues preventing logon and > second the original

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
I'm sorry to say that we're not going to get an answer to this one. I made a bit of a mistake. I found that I've now got 2 seperate issues, first that my grafted home folder naturally has permissions issues preventing logon and second the original profile does indeed contain a corrupted file. Howe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Gareth France
Then why does it not work when EVERY file is transplanted from a working profile? On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Neil Greenwood wrote: > If there is a broken user account, it definitely is a config file issue > with one of the hidden files in that user's directory. It's not a global > config is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] update/upgrade issues and help - was12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Barry Drake
On 04/05/12 08:19, Alan Pope wrote: What specific investigations have led you to believe that update manager is the issue? I'm not trying to labour the point, but just illustrate that one mans fix is another mans cop-out. The specific issues were very often missing data, programs that had wor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-05-04 08:59, Alan Pope wrote: > It's funny you should ask that. I'm at a Canonical product sprint > this week and one of our tasks was to review the 12.04 release and > make suggestions for how things could be improved. Good luck this week, Al

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Piskie
On 04/05/12 08:12, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 00:06, Piskie wrote: How would you do it Alan ? I wouldn't upgrade now. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http:/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 00:08, Barry Drake wrote: > The folk I've been helping out on the Ubuntu answers pages are for > the most part hardly able to understand the commandline and are > initially angry. Who said anything about the command line? It's all about ho

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 00:06, Piskie wrote: > How would you do it Alan ? > I wouldn't upgrade now. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Barry Drake
On 03/05/12 23:22, Alan Pope wrote: I find this response very frustrating. It's not only inaccurate but it means we'll never get to the bottom of the problem, so can never find out how to fix it. If everyone just re-installed the OS whenever the wind changed direction we'd end up with a signifi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Piskie
On 04/05/12 08:04, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/12 23:21, Piskie wrote: You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up. I use these commands to do so sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get dis

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/12 23:21, Piskie wrote: > You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up. > > I use these commands to do so > > sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > > sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > I wouldn't r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/12 23:00, kpb wrote: > I have always had a separate /home and reinstalled when changing > version. To be clear, there is nothing wrong with doing that. One of my machines is setup like that too, but that's by virtue of / being an SSD and /ho