Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu desktop app hacking

2011-11-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Bruno, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:49:50PM +, Bruno Girin wrote: > Following the last meeting [1], I was left with the action to look for a > venue to do some Ubuntu desktop app hacking evenings. As suggested by > Jorvik during the meeting, I went tonight to have a look at the London >

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu desktop app hacking

2011-11-15 Thread Bruno Girin
Hi all, Following the last meeting [1], I was left with the action to look for a venue to do some Ubuntu desktop app hacking evenings. As suggested by Jorvik during the meeting, I went tonight to have a look at the London Hackspace in Hoxton [2] to see if it would be a good place to do that.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Fisher
Coming out of standby is a major issue on a lot of machines. Usually a problem with the video drivers (but not always). What video card do you have? My machine will not come out of standby 90% of the time running FGLRX radeon drivers, but does on the open source drivers, works as good as gold on

[ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Law
I have a problem that I am pretty sure is nothing to do with Ubuntu but I hope somebody here may be able to help. On one of my desktop PCs (running Ubuntu 11.10), about 50% of the time when I shutdown it does a normal power down but then the standby light flashes as if it were in standby. It is n

[ubuntu-uk] Christmas Meal

2011-11-15 Thread Alan Bell
Thanks to those who expressed an interest in the Christmas meal, I have now made a reservation for 9 people on the 9th of December (yes, the day after the happy hour in Surbiton) From the reservation confirmation: In case you would need to cancel your booking or if the number of guests needs

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Next Happy Hour - Thursday 8th December, Surbiton (west London)

2011-11-15 Thread Dan Fish
Thanks for that Liam. I've not had the pleasure(?) of drinking in most of those so very useful. Having talking to the locals that I work with in Surbiton, for the best mix of price/friendliness/space, the Victoria might be best REgards Dan On 13 November 2011 10:04, Alan Bell wrote: Hi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Next Happy Hour - Thursday 8th December, Surbiton (west London)

2011-11-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 November 2011 10:04, Alan Bell wrote: > Hi all, > > the next Happy Hour will be on the 8th of December in Surbiton. A well > connected part of West London with good train access to everywhere. The > exact venue is yet to be determined, but the intrepid explorer Dan Fish has > volunteered to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Juan J.
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 11:54 +, Colin Law wrote: > [...] > Agreed, plus possibly a few words pointing out the significance of > this. I maintain there *is* a problem as people have been confused by > the documentation (including myself), therefore it would benefit from > clarification, so we do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 November 2011 11:29, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Colin Law wrote: >> On 15 November 2011 09:35, Avi Greenbury wrote: >> > Juan J. wrote: >> > >> >> For -m says "on which the system is running", which doesn't seem >> >> to be coherent with the uname output we are getting in a 64 bit >> >> system

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Avi Greenbury
Colin Law wrote: > On 15 November 2011 09:35, Avi Greenbury wrote: > > Juan J. wrote: > > > >> For -m says "on which the system is running", which doesn't seem > >> to be coherent with the uname output we are getting in a 64 bit > >> system running a 32 bit kernel. > > > > It depends why you are i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 November 2011 09:41, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:57:44AM +, Colin Law wrote: >> So you think the problem is not in the man page for uname, but uname >> -i -m -p *should* display information about the hardware rather than >> the installed OS? > > This won't change - u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 November 2011 09:35, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Juan J. wrote: > >> For -m says "on which the system is running", which doesn't seem to be >> coherent with the uname output we are getting in a 64 bit system >> running a 32 bit kernel. > > It depends why you are interested. > > When a 686 kernel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:57:44AM +, Colin Law wrote: > So you think the problem is not in the man page for uname, but uname > -i -m -p *should* display information about the hardware rather than > the installed OS? This won't change - uname is used in scripts that need to know specifically a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Avi Greenbury
Juan J. wrote: > For -m says "on which the system is running", which doesn't seem to be > coherent with the uname output we are getting in a 64 bit system > running a 32 bit kernel. It depends why you are interested. When a 686 kernel is running on an amd64 chip, it *is* running on 686 hardware

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Juan J.
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 08:57 +, Colin Law wrote: > 2011/11/15 Juan J. : > > On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 08:04 +, Colin Law wrote: > >> [...] > >> which suggests that it is talking about the hardware platform the > >> software is running on. > > > > Have you tried texinfo manual as recommended in t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Law
2011/11/15 Juan J. : > On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 08:04 +, Colin Law wrote: >> [...] >> which suggests that it is talking about the hardware platform the >> software is running on. > > Have you tried texinfo manual as recommended in the man page? > > info coreutils 'uname invocation' > > It's way mo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Juan J.
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 08:04 +, Colin Law wrote: > [...] > which suggests that it is talking about the hardware platform the > software is running on. Have you tried texinfo manual as recommended in the man page? info coreutils 'uname invocation' It's way more complete. I looks like the prob

Re: [ubuntu-uk] uname -a for 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Law
2011/11/14 Juan J. : > On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 22:22 +, Colin Law wrote: >> [...] >> > >> > TL;DR: it doesn't matter what is your hardware, the important it's which >> > kernel are your running. >> >> It does matter what the hardware is if you want to know whether you >> *could* run the 64 bit ke