Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 00:11 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: > Which begs the question... why aren't Google using a standard JRE? > > It's great to demonise Oracle as some sort of "baddie", but the truth > is that Google are a commercial company too who are "doing very well" > by pretending (imho) that e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Sean Miller
Which begs the question... why aren't Google using a standard JRE? It's great to demonise Oracle as some sort of "baddie", but the truth is that Google are a commercial company too who are "doing very well" by pretending (imho) that everything they do is "for the greater good"... it isn't, any mor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Bruno Girin
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:27 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote: > For those who don't already know, Oracle has decided to sue Google for > using Java, somehow missing the whole "Java is Open Source" idea. Is > this what Oracle had in mind when buying Sun? An IP cash cow? > > Details here: > http://www.th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over various vague concepts

2010-08-13 Thread Jim Price
On 13/08/10 14:03, Paul Sladen wrote: > ... the patents in question (all seven of them) are not about Java, > but about programming concepts in-general (eg. copy-on-write, duplicate > string merging, dynamic shared library loading, ...): > >http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Oracle_v._Google_(2010,_USA)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread David King
I had a bad feeling about Oracle taking over Sun. I think that Oracle's goal is to make money, and it continues to develop and make available the free stuff that it inherited from Sun only because there would be an outcry if they started charging for VirtualBox and OpenOffice.org. Any company t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over various vague concepts

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Sladen
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Philip Stubbs wrote: > On 13 August 2010 11:27, Bruce Beardall wrote: > > Details here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/13/oracle_sues_google/ > if it was found that the alternative VM infringes any Sun IP. For an Android .dex executable, there are no Java byte codes, an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 13 August 2010 11:27, Bruce Beardall wrote: > For those who don't already know, Oracle has decided to sue Google for using > Java, somehow missing the whole "Java is Open Source" idea. Is this what > Oracle had in mind when buying Sun? An IP cash cow? > > Details here: http://www.theregister.co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Bruce Beardall
You're right, of course, Alan but perhaps this lawsuit will test that very principle? On 13 August 2010 11:34, Alan Pope wrote: > On 13 August 2010 11:27, Bruce Beardall wrote: > > For those who don't already know, Oracle has decided to sue Google for > using > > Java, somehow missing the who

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Kris Douglas
On 13 August 2010 11:27, Bruce Beardall wrote: > For those who don't already know, Oracle has decided to sue Google for using > Java, somehow missing the whole "Java is Open Source" idea. Is this what > Oracle had in mind when buying Sun? An IP cash cow? > > Details here: http://www.theregister.co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What to do about black hole of broadband

2010-08-13 Thread Gordon Allott
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 16:51 +0100, Gordon Allott wrote: > Hi all, > > So I'm moving house and taking a look at the broadband speeds in the > local area shows something... suspicious. > http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/broadband_speed_in_my_area_v2.aspx?postcode=cw26jn > > namely that in the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Alan Pope
On 13 August 2010 11:27, Bruce Beardall wrote: > For those who don't already know, Oracle has decided to sue Google for using > Java, somehow missing the whole "Java is Open Source" idea. Is this what > Oracle had in mind when buying Sun? An IP cash cow? > Just because Java is (now) under a free-

[ubuntu-uk] Oracle sues Google over Java

2010-08-13 Thread Bruce Beardall
For those who don't already know, Oracle has decided to sue Google for using Java, somehow missing the whole "Java is Open Source" idea. Is this what Oracle had in mind when buying Sun? An IP cash cow? Details here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/13/oracle_sues_google/ Regards Bruce -- ub