[ubuntu-uk] OpenOffice.org problems

2009-11-03 Thread David King
I am having some serious problems with OpenOffice.org. All was fine with version 3.0.something in Ubuntu 9.04, then one day recently the update manager gave me a new version. Since then it will not work properly. Every time I start OOo I get an error message saying "Failed to set the look and f

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenOffice.org problems

2009-11-03 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/4 David King : > I am having some serious problems with OpenOffice.org. > > It was all okay until an Ubuntu update. So can I go back to an earlier > version that worked? Or is a simple solution to just remove/install/fix > something with the current installation to get it working again? >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenOffice.org problems

2009-11-03 Thread Sean Miller
Maybe try removing the .openoffice.org and .openoffice.org2 subdirectories in your home? Worth a shot, anyway. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Tony Pursell
On 3 Nov 2009 at 18:21, Alan Pope wrote: > > 2009/11/3 Alan Bell : > > an upgrade advisor is an excellent idea, in fact a hardware testing tool > > that scans PCI and USB bus and summarises the level of support for each > > item by looking it up on the web would be an excellent tool. Thinking > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic dual monitor problems...

2009-11-03 Thread Dean Sas
tim.ritt...@doctors.org.uk wrote: > How many people out there use dual monitors? Is the general poor > support for dual monitors a conequence of the closed source nature of > the graphics drivers? I would ideally like to use kde, but this > doesn't support dual screens at all. I don't know if it's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Tony Pursell
On 3 Nov 2009 at 22:34, Alan Pope wrote: > > 2009/11/3 Tony Pursell : > > Once done, is this sort of ugrade useable?  To test if the upgrade > > works on the target machine? Then committed or rolled back?  Or > > can it just be rolled back if someway into the upgrade process there is > > a failur

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
2009/11/3 Tony Pursell : > Once done, is this sort of ugrade useable?  To test if the upgrade > works on the target machine? Then committed or rolled back?  Or > can it just be rolled back if someway into the upgrade process there is > a failure (eg lack if disk space)? > No idea. never tried it.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
2009/11/3 Alan Bell : > an upgrade advisor is an excellent idea, in fact a hardware testing tool > that scans PCI and USB bus and summarises the level of support for each > item by looking it up on the web would be an excellent tool. Thinking > about it there is no reason why such a tool shouldn't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Tony Pursell
On 3 Nov 2009 at 17:47, Alan Bell wrote: > > an upgrade advisor is an excellent idea, in fact a hardware testing tool > that scans PCI and USB bus and summarises the level of support for each > item by looking it up on the web would be an excellent tool. Thinking > about it there is no reason why

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Alan Bell
an upgrade advisor is an excellent idea, in fact a hardware testing tool that scans PCI and USB bus and summarises the level of support for each item by looking it up on the web would be an excellent tool. Thinking about it there is no reason why such a tool shouldn't be available on other operatin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clean Install!

2009-11-03 Thread Neil Perry
Try launching from a terminal, does it output any errors? Neil Perry 2009/11/3 john > Many thanks for the offer of help Rob Beard but I have eventually had to > re install 9.10. I sent details of my problem to the developers and they > were unsure of the cause! > > I have installed Moovida and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clean Install!

2009-11-03 Thread Ed Morgan
What happens if you install it with apt-get, could you copy the errors it prints to the terminal? Ed Morgan "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." - H. L. Mencken http://dontfightthefuture.com http://identi.ca/mo6020 2

[ubuntu-uk] Clean Install!

2009-11-03 Thread john
Many thanks for the offer of help Rob Beard but I have eventually had to re install 9.10. I sent details of my problem to the developers and they were unsure of the cause! I have installed Moovida and had no success with that. When opening the program, it just locks up. I have installed it a coupl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Tony Pursell
On 3 Nov 2009 at 8:13, Philip Stubbs wrote: > > 2009/11/3 Sean Miller : > > Maybe it is time to ask the question again -- is the 6-month cycle too > > ambitious? > > > > Sean > > There will never be a 'one size fits all' If six months is too fast > for someone, then they should use only LTS rele

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Paul Roach
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Ed Morgan wrote: > Is is possible that the Karmic release is getting something of a higher > profile in the mainstream press due to it's release pretty much coinciding > with Windows 7, and the hype that's been generated about it? > > I think it's equally possible

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Ed Morgan
Is is possible that the Karmic release is getting something of a higher profile in the mainstream press due to it's release pretty much coinciding with Windows 7, and the hype that's been generated about it? Ed Morgan "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the blac

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread mac
Gordon Allott wrote: > just to note that article is filled with statistical crap of the highest > ridiculousness, as always, the loudest voice is never of the people who > are happy, but rather of the few who have problems. Yes, the article does make a meal of the vote on the Ubuntu forum, which

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
2009/11/3 Alan Bell : > this is a perfectly reasonable expectation. When this expectation is not > met the correct response is to file a bug and work with others on fixing it. > That may be the desired response, but often it's not what actually happens. What often happens is one or more of the fol

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Bell wrote: > Neil Perry wrote: > >> I agree with you Ed. They expect out of the box complete working. >> >> Neil Perry >> >> > > this is a perfectly reasonable expectation. When this expectation is not > met the correct response is to file a bug and work with others on fixing it. >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Ed Morgan
Agreed. Sorry my point was more that the people who have installed Karmic successfully more than likely won't be seen chundering online about it. Hence why those that haven't managed a successful install may seem to be more prevalent... I don't think it's a reasonable suggestion to expect Ubuntu t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Alan Bell
Neil Perry wrote: > I agree with you Ed. They expect out of the box complete working. > > Neil Perry > this is a perfectly reasonable expectation. When this expectation is not met the correct response is to file a bug and work with others on fixing it. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Neil Perry
I agree with you Ed. They expect out of the box complete working. Neil Perry 2009/11/3 Ed Morgan > Exactly, the thousands of people who've installed Karmic won't be seen > moaning online about it... As I said earlier, people expect something to > work, and when it does they won't be seen screa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Ed Morgan
Exactly, the thousands of people who've installed Karmic won't be seen moaning online about it... As I said earlier, people expect something to work, and when it does they won't be seen screaming about it... Ed Morgan "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the blac

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Gordon Allott
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 07:35 +, mac wrote: > You'll probably have seen this: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/ > > Not the press we'd have hoped for - and from a usually friendly source. > I must say, I, too, had a bit of a problem with an upgrade from 9.04

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Rob Beard
mac wrote: > You'll probably have seen this: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/ > > Not the press we'd have hoped for - and from a usually friendly source. > I must say, I, too, had a bit of a problem with an upgrade from 9.04 > (just a failure of the automatic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Ed Morgan
Just to throw my oar in, I've upgraded 2 boxes to Karmic, one elderly Acer laptop, and an ancient desktop. Both of which just worked. As someone said earlier, people are clearly not doing any research on hardware prior to upgrading, and the bad press is getting outweighed by the good press.As Pope

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Rob Beard
Sean Miller wrote: > Maybe it is time to ask the question again -- is the 6-month cycle too > ambitious? > > Sean > Maybe it is, but I guess the problem is that it would mess with the easy to remember release dates (x.04 and x.10). Maybe it would be better to have say a 6 monthly or so point

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Sean Miller
Please don't get me wrong: I was merely asking the question, as I think that 6 months is a very ambitious timescale to get a completely new distribution built. The LTS vs. regular releases thing is, imho, rather a red herring - the implication seems to be that it is okay to market an "unfinished r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Bob Giles
Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/11/3 mac : > >> Sean Miller wrote: >> Snip=== >> Note that there are also people saying their upgrade went smoothly.. >> Snip=== Just to add my two pennyworth ... I upgraded my Acer Aspire One w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread mac
Philip Stubbs wrote: > 2009/11/3 Sean Miller : >> Maybe it is time to ask the question again -- is the 6-month cycle too >> ambitious? >> >> Sean > > There will never be a 'one size fits all' If six months is too fast > for someone, then they should use only LTS releases. Alternatively, > they cou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic dual monitor problems...

2009-11-03 Thread dan attwood
> Different card (9600GT), but I have dual screen working with TwinView > via the nvidia-settings. It's not ideal for a permanent dual screen > setup as it needs to be reapplied each boot, but at least it should > work as a temporary solution. > > twinview should work fine after a reboot. run

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic dual monitor problems...

2009-11-03 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/3 Luke-Jennings : > Hi, > > Sorry for the late reply but I have the 185 driver installed on my > laptop with a NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256MB graphics card. I use disper > as it is a quick means of changing screen outputs. > http://willem.engen.nl/projects/disper/ My dual screen set-up works

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
2009/11/3 mac : > Sean Miller wrote: >> Maybe it is time to ask the question again -- is the 6-month cycle too >> ambitious? > > You do have to wonder about the PR cost, don't you? > Note that there are also people saying their upgrade went smoothly.. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/nzsouthernman/6906

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/11/3 Sean Miller : > Maybe it is time to ask the question again -- is the 6-month cycle too > ambitious? > > Sean There will never be a 'one size fits all' If six months is too fast for someone, then they should use only LTS releases. Alternatively, they could use Debian, or Suse or RedHat et

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

2009-11-03 Thread mac
Sean Miller wrote: > Maybe it is time to ask the question again -- is the 6-month cycle too > ambitious? You do have to wonder about the PR cost, don't you? mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/