Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

2013-07-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 11:38 -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > Is there an API for this already? Is it something we're going to handle? Low level, yes. I think this needs to get migrated into the Qt Ubuntu plugin. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/url-dispatcher/trunk.13.1

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] "Can I use the internet?"

2013-07-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 10:44 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > In implementing the Time and Date settings[0], I need to know how to > answer the question in the subject. We have NM's D-Bus API - does that > cover all cases (mobile data, flight mode, containment [ok, that's not > relevant for system setting

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] "Can I use the internet?"

2013-07-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 14:50 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:12:42AM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 10:44 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > > > In implementing the Time and Date settings[0], I need to know how to > > > answer the quest

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] "Can I use the internet?"

2013-07-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 08:23 -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 07/30/2013 08:12 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 10:44 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > >> In implementing the Time and Date settings[0], I need to know how to > >> answer the question in the subj

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to enter PIN

2013-08-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:18 +0200, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2013 10:30:30 Joachim Hansen wrote: > > Is there a way of entering sim card PIN in Ubuntu touch? Or do I need to > > turn the sim cards PIN requirement off in an other phone and then put it > > back in my Ubuntu ph

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] App Confinement for Core Apps

2013-08-12 Thread Ted Gould
I think the question you're asking is good, but not one we have a concrete answer for. In general, we'd love all apps including core apps to be completely confined. It's unlikely we'll get to that point for v1.0. And, in general, we might want core apps to access something outside of what norma

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Catching CPU run-aways on Touch

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 14:35 +0100, Evan Dandrea wrote: > On 4 September 2013 12:25, Thomas Voß wrote: > > +1, the respective grace/timeout period would need to be determined > > from empirical data, too. > > Agreed. I think that it should also be per-service. For instance, HUD does the voice

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Catching CPU run-aways on Touch

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 11:01 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 10:22:59AM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > It seems to me for all of these long running services the "manager" of > > them is Upstart. It restarts them if they crash or do other stupid > &g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Catching CPU run-aways on Touch

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 11:32 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 01:16:07PM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > I wasn't intending to say "upstart should do it" more that we should put > > it in the Upstart job configuration and use that as our basis. T

[Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher information

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Gould
Hello, Folks have been pushing me (rightfully so) to get a little more user friendly documentation out there about the URL Dispatcher. I went ahead and wrote up this Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/URLDispatcher For those that are looking for the source code for the service it is here: http

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher information

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 15:58 -0400, Alexandre Abreu wrote: > It might be a little pedantic, but shouldn't we talk about URI instead > of URL? Yeah, that is a little pendantic :-) Perhaps, but I think for most people they're synonymous. > Besides that a few questions: > > - Is APP_ID going to be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher information

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 15:38 -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 09/18/2013 01:31 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > Folks have been pushing me (rightfully so) to get a little more user > > friendly > > documentation out there about the URL Dispatcher. I went ahead and wrote

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WARNING: Use application:/// URLs, not application://

2013-09-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 15:07 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > Please, if you maintain a component generating or consuming > application:// URLs, would you make sure the app name or .desktop file > name remains mixed case through your component and/or that you pass it > in the path part of the URL to oth

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Library dependency support in click packages?

2013-09-27 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 17:37 -0400, Scott Sweeny wrote: > One thing click could do is look (at build time) at what external libraries an > application makes use of and if those libraries aren't included in the system > image include them in the click package itself, then at runtime ensure that > th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Library dependency support in click packages?

2013-09-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 19:51 -0600, Matthew Fischer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 17:37 -0400, Scott Sweeny wrote: > > > One thing click could do is look (at build time) at what extern

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Anybody have Adobe Illustrator?

2013-09-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 17:15 +0100, Sam Bull wrote: > On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 16:14 +0100, David Aizenberg wrote: > > Does it work? > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3U7iD3eG4-jdFBJcnA1My1CMFU/edit?usp=sharing > > Yep, thanks, that's worked, and thanks everyone else for the offers. > > Unfortuna

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Image 77 automated testing summary

2013-10-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 21:50 -0500, Paul Larson wrote: > Music app found a crash in url-dispatcher again, so that still seems > to be a random failure we see: > http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4525/music-app-autopilot/ I think that it is likely because of this error: https://j

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Image 77 automated testing summary

2013-10-03 Thread Ted Gould
re! Ted On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 22:42 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 21:50 -0500, Paul Larson wrote: > > > Music app found a crash in url-dispatcher again, so that still seems > > to be a random failure we see: > > http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Image 80 automated testing summary

2013-10-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 00:44 -0500, Paul Larson wrote: > * .crash file is showing up on the dropping-letters-app (click package > test) run: > _usr_lib_arm-linux-gnueabihf_upstart-app-launch_zg-report-app.32011.crash > http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4541/dropping-letters-app-aut

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Messaging API

2013-10-15 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 08:13 -0500, Israel wrote: > Hi is anyone aware of the API to integrate with messaging service for > the Ubuntu Touch platform? I would also like to integrate with the > desktop messaging menu services as well. I was not able to find this > information on the developer webs

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Messaging API

2013-10-15 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 21:30 -0500, Israel wrote: > After a quick look, I realized I need to include that I want to share > text in a text message. I assume that isn't covered in the messaging > menu, or Gwibber portion. Is there something you can point me to that > would help in that regard as we

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] TTS

2013-10-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 15:53 -0500, Israel wrote: > I'm wondering if there has been any discussion of a TTS (text to speech) > being implemented on Ubuntu Touch, and if so, where could I find any > information. If not, what would be the best place to open an issue for > discussion, or who could

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] TTS

2013-10-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 18:28 -0500, Israel wrote: > I may have been too brief in my initial e-mail. No, I misread it. :-) Glad Luke was able to help though! Ted signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 11:09 +0200, Thomas Voß wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > >>my point of view is still that forcing every little small app to bring its > >> own > >>daemon will: > >> > >>a) scare off people for writing apps for our platform as the communication

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-24 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:36 -0400, Rick Spencer wrote: > So I am saying the opposite. Rather than allowing apps to create > background services I think we should stick to the original vision. > Apps use well known APIs for their functionality, or the the user > keeps the app in front and alive on t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Url Dispatcher

2013-10-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 10:14 +0100, Sam Segers wrote: > Is there an eta for being able to recieve url calls in your own > application? It's on my TODO list, I don't have a specific ETA. > That brings another question to how to form a url for music for a > internet stream? Now the music only fil

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Desktop file parsing - lets standardize

2013-11-12 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 14:56 +, Gerry Boland wrote: > The cache is generated by the tool that can be found at [5]. > > The main point of the cache is answering complex questions like "give me > the apps associated with application/pdf", though it will also probably > speed up single .desktop-f

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge emulator skin

2013-11-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 19:14 +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: > I fiddled a bit and have thrown together an initial version of an Ubuntu > Edge skin for the emulator, a README with install instructions and the > necessary files in a tarball is at: > > http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/emu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 15:55 +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 26.11.2013 14:54, Ursula Junque wrote: > > I started a wiki page to document this information [1]. There's an old > > page [2] that probably should be revisited and merged with this one. > > > > While this isn't settled, I'd like to ask

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher progress?

2013-12-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 19:52 +, Sam Bull wrote: > Has there been any progress on the URL dispatcher supporting additional > protocols? > > We need to support the bitcoin: protocol from our app, so that users can > purchase things by clicking a link in the browser, or scanning a > bitcoin: link

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FALSE ALERT - Re: New Landing Plan format!

2013-12-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 10:44 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > this was not a not coordinated step by Rob. The format and process was > not agreed and algined with Landing Team. While I know that everyone > waits for something like this, but for now we will not use this > format. Besides "no one tol

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WARNING: Use application:/// URLs, not application://

2013-12-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 20:48 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: > Am I doing something wrong? Not wrong, but it moved to being a click package, which means it needs a slightly more complex URL. appid://com.ubuntu.terminal/terminal/current-user-version That should open the lastest version installed

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WARNING: Use application:/// URLs, not application://

2013-12-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 20:09 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: > On 12/18/2013 08:59 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 20:48 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: > > > > > Am I doing something wrong? > > > > > > Not wrong, bu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu terminal application starting with an optional current directory

2013-12-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 17:42 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: > Actually the terminal opens in "/home/phablet". > > I'd like to start the Ubuntu Terminal Application opening another > directory as initial work directory. > > I am using > QDesktopServices::openUr("appid://com.ubuntu.terminal/termi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher progress?

2013-12-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-12-23 at 16:29 +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 03.12.2013 10:52, Ted Gould wrote: > > Thoughts? > > How about mimetype? The delivery protocol is one thing, but the actual > content is another. I.e. how would you make *a video player* open a > remote vide

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Indicator qml binding

2014-01-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-01-04 at 16:40 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: > Are there any plans to expose unity8 indicator qml binding present > in Ubuntu sdk , to allow user developed indicators ( such as cpu > usage, or hamster indicator ) for next generation Ubuntu desktop. Or > do we have to use qmenumodel

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clock App Alarms Review and Current Status

2014-01-06 Thread Ted Gould
he Ubuntu Clock Page to add, edit, list and > delete alarms - Complete (v0.1) (Nekhelesh Ramananthan) > 4. Register alarm:/// schema for url dispatcher - Complete (Ted > Gould) > 5. A background service which monitors and triggers the snap > notificati

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Changes to our Upstream Landing and Merge Review Practices in January

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 11:51 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > To start off this amazing new year, I wanted to share a slide deck > that outlines two exciting improvements to our engineering process > that we will roll out during January. > > - > https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentatio

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Emulator + Autopilot = Win

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 14:50 +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Whilst the emulator improvement work is on-going, I've spend some time > getting autopilot tests execution using the emulator running. Awesome. I knew something cool was brewing from your questions in IRC ;-) > I've also wrote a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clock App Alarms Review and Current Status

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 00:23 +0100, Nekhelesh Ramananthan wrote: > Please correct me if I am wrong here but I believed that since the > core apps are packaged as click packages on the phone, they are not > affected by the feature freeze deadline. But I am guessing the > ubuntu-ui-toolkit package wo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Changes to our Upstream Landing and Merge Review Practices in January

2014-01-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 08:34 +0100, Didier Roche wrote: > (I wish we can enforce maintenance branch around > lp:foo/, but I guess I'll save the debate for later ;)) For those who are interested I attached my script that we use to do this. It makes it easy and makes Didier smile, best script in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Changes to our Upstream Landing and Merge Review Practices in January

2014-01-09 Thread Ted Gould
n 7, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 11:51 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > > > > To start off this amazing new year, I wanted to share a slide deck > > that outlines two exciting improvements to our engineering process > > that we will roll ou

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fwd: ANN: Ubuntu Core/Touch Android 4.4 support & touch engineering platform/devices/hardware going forward

2014-01-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 19:19 +0400, Зонов Роман wrote: > Sorry. but your decision about manta is minimum...strange. IMHO, manta > is very important for development. Not because I have one, because > manta is a tablet with 10-inch display. Manta is an ideal tablet for > UT and, IMHO, development mus

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multiple frameworks for apps

2014-01-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 11:48 -0600, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > "frameworks": "ubuntu-sdk-13.10, ubuntu-14.04-qml" Don't have strong opinions on the rest of the thread, but can we please make this: "frameworks": ["ubuntu-sdk-13.10", "ubuntu-14.04-qml"] Would hate to embed another format

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 18:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > I'm now facing the choice of how to implement all the above; my original > idea was to execute the plugin with aa-exec-click, but before jumping on > that solution I'd like to double check with a wider audience. I've been > told that the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 10:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > I had a quick look at the untrusted helper branch, but I couldn't > understand if it's suitable for my case: > > " * Start an untrusted helper for a specific @type on a given > * @appid. We don't know how that is done specifically, as

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 16:50 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 02/04/2014 04:13 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 10:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > >> I had a quick look at the untrusted helper branch, but I > >> couldn't underst

[Ubuntu-phone] Managing Test Plans and Merge policies

2014-02-05 Thread Ted Gould
Hello, As folks are surely aware we're having to create a bunch of acceptance test plans and merge policies to be used as part of the "CI Train" process. For my part of that I went ahead and put them into the project repositories so that new tests can easily be added as the features land¹ instead

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Managing Test Plans and Merge policies

2014-02-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 13:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > Thanks Ted! > I suggest addint this to testplan-to-wiki: > > -e "s/\(.*\)<\/a>/[[\\1|\\2]]/" \ > > so that HTML links can be processed. Cool, I added it to my version and updated the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Tes

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Summarizing up issues on current touch 4.4 based image

2014-02-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 12:00 +0100, Didier Roche wrote: > As told yesterday in landing team email, we are blocking any landing > impacting Touch right now to get all focus and energy on fixing issues > without introducing newer one. Not trying to be an ass about it, but isn't the process to drop

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 02:50 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Manuel de la Pena > wrote: > > I don't like the fact that udm is dooimd the click package installations but > > it is done because there is no guarantee that the scope will be around to > > deal with the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 14:34 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: > - on bootup we see the last song played before last shutdown > - not likely a problem in any volatile storage situation > > - after the user logs out we see what was playing when they were logged > in > > - the user is logged in, but

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 13:02 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > What we're doing for alarms is having the application provide a URL that > > gets called if the user clicks on the notification. So the clock app sets up >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 16:16 -0600, Leo Arias wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak > wrote: > > Hi, > > > On 12.03.2014 18:00, Didier Roche wrote: > > > We might need to have some view on what's seen on the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-03-21 at 15:08 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: > On the front of data, we haven't seen much new. For instance we only > know about a single case where this "all halt" event has negative > impact; so please speak up if you are affected. Generally if you want to know the impact to me you

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Qt 5.2 - Events are queued when rendering blocked

2014-03-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 20:19 +0100, Thomas Voß wrote: > Right now, we are considering the second alternative as it is much > less intrusive. In the shell, we will leverage Mir's input event > filter chains and offload reacting to certain kind of input events to > a thread independent of Qt's UI thr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 25.03.14

2014-03-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 02:09 -0600, Selene Scriven wrote: > - After setting an alarm, the time indicator shows that it is > actually set for a different time zone. For example, I'm in > UTC-6. I set an alarm for 1am. The alarm actually gets set > for 7am instead. The "edit alar

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Error Tracker retracing armhf crashes

2014-03-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 16:15 -0700, Brian Murray wrote: > Last week the Ubuntu Error tracker infrastructure, thanks to the hard > work of the Canonical Web Ops team (particularly David Ames), switched > from running on specific hardware systems to using Canonical's internal > cloud. An exciting ben

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 08.04.14

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 03:08 -0300, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > hi, > > Am Dienstag, den 08.04.2014, 18:26 +0200 schrieb Didier Roche: > > > >> ** When using multiple webapps they crash randomly, if there is only > >> one app remain

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Autopilot / UpstartAppLaunch and Secondary applications

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:10 +1200, Thomi Richards wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Leo Arias > wrote: > > > (Bill) > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu/+bug/1297900 > > -> seems to only impact on tests

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Autopilot / UpstartAppLaunch and Secondary applications

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 11:22 -0600, Leo Arias wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > I think that the issue isn't with start but with stop. > Autopilot is calling stop and expecting the app to be stopped > after that call returns

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Debugging support in UAL

2014-04-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 12:31 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > with Unity8 on the desktop and on our devices there will be only one way > to start a application. I think that we should look at this slightly differently: The system requires knowledge and management of applications from before they'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 14:10 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 19:11 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > > Rodney Dawes [2014-04-16 13:02 -0400]: > > > We're talking about one app loading the translations for all apps. > > > > FWIW, that might be too slow regardless of which approach we u

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:09 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 09:52 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 14:10 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 19:11 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > > > > Rodney Dawes [2014-04-16

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 13:21 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > The cache also doesn't solve the problem of deciding whether to use > inline translations in .desktop files, or to use .mo files for the > translations. All it does is move the parsing to another point in time. > The performance and battery

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing app metadata

2014-04-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 22:23 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > There's also other potential issues with confinement of apps and such, I > think. Do we have plans to deal with all those issues to continue > supporting quick lists in the converged Unity8 experience? Or is it > going to be a necessary loss

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 22:08 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > One of the customizations we've identified as necessary is support for > upstart jobs or overrides shipped in the custom tarball. Currently, > we ship some upstart jobs in the ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks > package, but those should be se

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > We currently have some upstart jobs that set certain env variables, > like the dconf db/profile to use the customized dconf keys. It seems like this should be the default, not something in the custom tarball. Is there any reason we'd not w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > > > We currently have some upstart jobs that set certain env > > vari

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 09:20 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould > > wrote: > &g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 11:36 -0400, Tony Espy wrote: > On 05/01/2014 09:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > >> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould >> <mailto:t...@ubuntu.com>> wrote: > > > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 08:38 -0700, Alex Chiang wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > > > Also a carrier may want to enable/disable certain services (think 4g > > > tethering) for e

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 09.05.14

2014-05-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 18:23 +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: > What interesting things can be seen in #19? > - A new unity8 has been released, currently dropping support for HUD > from the bottom edge Is there a way to activate HUD in the mean time? We'll need to be able to do that so that

[Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
Hello Folks, Upstart App Launch is dead, long live Ubuntu App Launch! We've discussed it before and I've got a MR ready for UAL to make the naming change so that we're ready to move away from Upstart as our Init system. I'd like to work with folks on running sed through their code and landing thi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
ere a particularly good reason to not provide a symlink, or a > wrapper script that issues a deprecation warning when run, for > compatibility? > > On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 11:13 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > Hello Folks, > > > > Upstart App Launch is dead, long live Ubuntu Ap

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
t; files for the user as well? If not, then at least a symlink will be > required until they are all regenerated. > > > On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 11:43 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > > > > No reason to take on tech debt if we don't have to. Certainly if a > > bunch o

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-23 Thread Ted Gould
Thu, 2014-05-22 at 12:49 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > > Well, won't it break all existing click apps when the update is > > > installed? Or will the update regenerate all installed click .desktop > > > files for the user as well? If not, then at least a symlink will

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 05:54 -0300, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ted Gould > wrote: > > If for some reason this seriously effects you in a > negative way, please speak up now! > > Can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-24 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 19:54 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > No reason to take on tech debt if we don't have to. Certainly if a bunch of > > people reply that it's an issue it's not impossible to do that. But cru

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-06-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 11:47 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > will all images receive a update with the new name? > Because the SDK uploads a script to the phone that uses the Python API > as we discussed > before. > I just need to be aware of that, so I can change my python script to > fallback

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-07 Thread Ted Gould
While I think you already got an answer to your immediate question, I think that this sounds interesting and perhaps something that could be integrated with the application startup testing that QA is setting up. Would be nice to have a screenshot there, and perhaps invalidate results based on it.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:57 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > Unfortunately I get a bunch of crash files in /var/crash, and need to > do some correlation to figure out which app crashed it. I'll modify my > script to look for files in /var/crash after every application > start/stop cycle and pause so I ca

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 00:23 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > > That'll collect the additional apport data and put them into errors for > > grouping. I imagine that most devs are checking errors for stack traces of > > their packages already, and that way we can see if they happen on specific > > devices/

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] split greeter revert

2014-06-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 11:19 -0500, Kevin Gunn wrote: > After landing we've identified a handful of knock-on problems, mostly > around synchronization, listed here > https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter-session-broadcast/+bug/1328187 It seems that most of the items there are things we alread

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks, please include in your next MP

2014-06-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 14:33 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think in that case, we do want changes from the archive to be landed > directly to the upstream branches in question, which I believe is already at > least somewhat automated. Could you expand on your concern regarding "wrong > versions

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks, please include in your next MP

2014-06-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 08:36 +0200, Didier Roche wrote: > A check is then done to ensure that what you are trying to build > contains latest archive content *as the first step* (and so, not after > an hours or more into the landing process). The build fails > immediately and tells you need to check

[Ubuntu-phone] Extra desktop files in application directory

2014-06-16 Thread Ted Gould
Hello folks, Last week we had an image or two where the desktop hook in the Click package was running instead of the one in Ubuntu App Launch. The symptom at the time was that packages couldn't be uninstalled. That is fixed in the current images and all promoted images. One lingering result of th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] QEMU Nexus 4

2015-09-10 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 19:11 +0200, K1773R wrote: > Did anyone successfully emulate a Nexus 4 with QEMU for building? > Compiling on the make takes too long, so i'd like to offload it to my > servers. Haven't tried it myself, but some folks on the Snappy list mentioned building using a cloud inst

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Contact sync (call for testing)

2015-09-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 15:48 -0300, Renato Filho wrote: > 1 - Account migration >Your existing Google account(s) will be converted to use the new > infrastructure and this will start automatically after installing the > packages and reboot the device (see below). >The instructions will appe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mutitasking (was Owncloud App?)

2015-10-03 Thread Ted Gould
There is really no reason in this case, this is clearly a case of getting the cloud service to send push notifications. And for OwnCloud that could be as simple as a plugin for OwnCloud. Here's a diagram on how it should work: http://www.slideshare.net/tedgould/ubuntu-application-lifecycle-519785

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mutitasking (was Owncloud App?)

2015-10-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 05:12 +0200, Sturm Flut wrote: > On 10/04/2015 04:27 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > > > There is really no reason in this case, this is clearly a case of > > getting the cloud service to send push notifications. And for OwnCloud > > that could b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mutitasking (was Owncloud App?)

2015-10-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 09:52 +0200, Michał Sawicz wrote: > W dniu 04.10.2015 o 05:58, Ted Gould pisze: > > Sure, for P2P you'd have to have something running in the background to > > automatic discovery and figuring out the diffs and polling the other > > hosts. I&

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Notes app, add a passphrase to protect a note

2015-10-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2015-10-17 at 13:10 +0200, Marco Graziotti wrote: > I want suggest to the Ubuntu core app developers to add a feature in > "Notes app". Sometimes users store sensible data inside a note, like pin > or password, I think it's really useful to allow users add a passphrase > to protect a no

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Notes app, add a passphrase to protect a note

2015-10-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 16:12 +0200, Marco Graziotti wrote: > You think that it's possible to import "LastPass" in "Note"? > I saw that there are two apps called "LastPass" in Ubuntu Sotre. Both > have a proprietary licence. > Are you using "LastPass"? Yes, I do use LastPass, you can find out mor

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Mycroft Skills on Ubuntu Phone

2015-10-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 16:28 -0300, Jonathan D'Orleans wrote: > Dial Call usecase: > 1. Turn on my phone (or Ubuntu device) and login > 2. Say: "Mycroft, call my wife" > 3. Mycroft do a Dial Call to my wife's phone number For both of these cases you'll want to query the addressbook. It is stored i

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Application losts its dispatchers

2016-02-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2016-01-30 at 18:03 +0100, Costales wrote: > I'm catching in uNav the URLs like: http://unav-go.github.io > > The dispatcher is here: > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~costales/unav/trunk/view/head:/app-dispa > tcher.json > > But I don't know why, that dispatcher was lost. The URLs are openi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clear webapp cache

2016-03-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:53 -0400, Alexandre Abreu wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ferdinand Holzner > gmail.com> wrote: > > is it possible to clear the webapp cache, if something goes wrong? > > > > Sometimes i have trouble with the twitter webapp. It crashes and i > > think the only w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Local copy of the SD reproduced movies

2016-04-12 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 14:57 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > To make things more complicated, this exception should not be made on > the content type, but on the receiving application: if one implements > another video player application (in a normally confined click > package) > and it's asked to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Libertine

2016-04-28 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2016-04-28 at 22:28 +0200, Christian Hahn wrote: > I understand: insecure, untrusty stuff from the last century, but why > shouldn't this stuff run in one Xmir session. Everything that is running under the same X server can steal stuff from anything else running on the same X server. By hav

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Application crash on utopic but not trusty

2014-07-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 17:34 +0200, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 08.07.2014 17:25, Robert Schroll wrote: > > How does one do that? Every time I try to launch an application from an > > ssh session, I get > > > >> QUbuntu: Could not create application instance > >> Aborted (core dumped) > > > > Obvi

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