Hello, is it possible to run click app in background and activate them on
scheduled event or on some conditions? If it's possible, then how to
implement that from the point of view of security?
Greetings
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Hey Fabio,
no, applications are not allowed to run in background. Our application
lifecycle is strict in this respect and we only guarantee focused
applications to be running.
HTH,
Thomas
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Fabio Colella wrote:
> Hello, is it possible to run click app in backgr
On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:07:52 Thomas Voß wrote:
> Hey Fabio,
>
> no, applications are not allowed to run in background. Our application
> lifecycle is strict in this respect and we only guarantee focused
> applications to be running.
Does that mean I will have an Ubuntu Edge phone with 4GB
Hello,
On 14.08.2013 09:29, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:07:52 Thomas Voß wrote:
>> Hey Fabio,
>>
>> no, applications are not allowed to run in background. Our application
>> lifecycle is strict in this respect and we only guarantee focused
>> applications to be running.
On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:31:31 Daniel Holbach wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 14.08.2013 09:29, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:07:52 Thomas Voß wrote:
> >> Hey Fabio,
> >>
> >> no, applications are not allowed to run in background. Our application
> >> lifecycle is strict
Hey guys,
Yeah, we need a better name with that cadence change. :)
So now, the daily release process is run way more often to speed up our
delivery time to the baseline (every 4h). You will find more information
at
http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Release-early%2C-release-often%2C-release-every-4
Hello,
On 14.08.2013 09:41, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:31:31 Daniel Holbach wrote:
>>> Does that mean I will have an Ubuntu Edge phone with 4GB of RAM, 8 CPU
>>> cores and cannot do multitasking on it?
>>
>> I don't think anyone specified the phone to have 8 CPU cores
So, i can write daemons but no background? For example, if I want to create
a calendar app that rings on some scheduled events, what's the path? :)
Il giorno 14/ago/2013 09:41, "Michael Zanetti" <
michael.zane...@canonical.com> ha scritto:
> On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:31:31 Daniel Holbach wrot
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Michael Zanetti
wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:31:31 Daniel Holbach wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On 14.08.2013 09:29, Michael Zanetti wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:07:52 Thomas Voß wrote:
>> >> Hey Fabio,
>> >>
>> >> no, applications are not allowed
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Tobias Havla wrote:
> On 14.08.2013 09:54, Thomas Voß wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Michael Zanetti
>> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:31:31 Daniel Holbach wrote:
Hello,
On 14.08.2013 09:29, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> On Wed
On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:51:56 Daniel Holbach wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 14.08.2013 09:41, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 August 2013 09:31:31 Daniel Holbach wrote:
> >>> Does that mean I will have an Ubuntu Edge phone with 4GB of RAM, 8 CPU
> >>> cores and cannot do multitasking on
hi,
On Mi, 2013-08-14 at 09:48 +0200, Didier Roche wrote:
> So now, the daily release process is run way more often to speed up
> our delivery time to the baseline (every 4h)
with this awesome change we can now do our image builds more often for
the ubuntu-touch images. For the start we now have b
The state of an application is transparent to the user. Behind the
scenes, the system can decide to stop/kill non-focused apps at its own
discretion. Whenever the system alters the state of an app to "not
running" it offers an archive such that the app can persist its state.
With that, a user ideal
Please also see:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-add-app-model-and-lifecycle-to-platform-api
and the linked documents for further details.
Thomas
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Thomas Voß wrote:
> The state of an application is transparent to the user. Behind
On Wednesday 14 August 2013 10:33:34 Thomas Voß wrote:
> The state of an application is transparent to the user. Behind the
> scenes, the system can decide to stop/kill non-focused apps at its own
> discretion. Whenever the system alters the state of an app to "not
> running" it offers an archive s
So the problem is:
D/libEGL ( 1854): loaded /system/lib/egl/libEGL_mali.so
D/libEGL ( 1854): loaded /system/lib/egl/libGLESv1_CM_mali.so
D/libEGL ( 1854): loaded /system/lib/egl/libGLESv2_mali.so
W/libEGL ( 1854): eglInitialize(0x1) failed (EGL_BAD_ALLOC)
Is the proprietary driver the problem
There is a problem with the device:
If I unplug the USB cord, the device reboots. There are some powerd errors
in dmesg, but when unplugging, it instantly reboots, so there is no trace
of the problem in dmesg.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Daniel Holbach wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On 07.08.2013 19:21,
Thanks for that link Thomas - very helpful!
I'm sorry to say I'm still a little confused about one thing (amongst
many!)...
I'm writing an app that is taking this shape:
- An app that can start and stop as the user and OS decides - which acts
as the interface between the user and a daemon, w
Scott, careful, we might end up on the bad side of things, as developers
would want their app to be running all the time so he will abuse this, and
we end up having all the things running all the time and the enduser gets
bad performance, battery life and overall bad experience.
I think I have rai
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Didier Roche wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> Yeah, we need a better name with that cadence change. :)
>
Hexadaily? Quadrourly?
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On 08/14/2013 02:07 AM, Thomas Voß wrote:
> Hey Fabio,
>
> no, applications are not allowed to run in background. Our application
> lifecycle is strict in this respect and we only guarantee focused
> applications to be running.
>
Well... I think saying applications are not allowed to do it is too
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Robert Park wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Didier Roche wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Yeah, we need a better name with that cadence change. :)
>>
>
> Hexadaily? Quadrourly?
>
No, wait, sorry for the hasty email. Hexadaily would technically mean
"every 6
On 08/14/2013 08:50 AM, Jamie Strandboge wrote:
> On 08/14/2013 02:07 AM, Thomas Voß wrote:
>> Hey Fabio,
>>
>> no, applications are not allowed to run in background. Our application
>> lifecycle is strict in this respect and we only guarantee focused
>> applications to be running.
>>
> Well... I t
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Michael Zanetti
wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 August 2013 10:33:34 Thomas Voß wrote:
>> The state of an application is transparent to the user. Behind the
>> scenes, the system can decide to stop/kill non-focused apps at its own
>> discretion. Whenever the system alter
Hello,
Ubuntu phone depends on cyanogenmod. Luckally, the nexus 7 2013 just got
nightly's of cyanogenmod (codename flo). The next part is our work and I've
never ported before either, though I would be willing to help.
I read the porting instructions but heard they were terribly out of date.
-Jo
Hi,
Please, let it be clear about Ubuntu Touch :
- currently Apps screen shows "Running Apps" with (not live) miniatures
of open softwares. These softwares are not-focused ? If so, they can be
closed by the system ?
- if the user have installed a mathematical application and want to let
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Roberto Colistete Jr.
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please, let it be clear about Ubuntu Touch :
> - currently Apps screen shows "Running Apps" with (not live) miniatures of
> open softwares. These softwares are not-focused ? If so, they can be closed
> by the system ?
Things are getting confused, so I put some use cases. For example, a client
of Ubuntu one that sync photos when a new one is shot? Or a daily backup?
Is this possible? And if it is, what's the path? :) I'm thinking from a
event driven point of view. Does the user always need to open the
application
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Roberto Colistete Jr.
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please, let it be clear about Ubuntu Touch :
> - currently Apps screen shows "Running Apps" with (not live) miniatures of
> open softwares. These softwares are not-focused ? If so, they can be closed
> by the system ?
It's pretty straight forward, applications simply cannot do any work
when they are not in the foreground (for v1).
However, don't worry! These cases would be handled by consuming
services. There isn't currently an upload service that goes to an
arbitrary place, but there is a Friends service that
Em 14-08-2013 08:18, Zisu Andrei escreveu:
Scott, careful, we might end up on the bad side of things, as
developers would want their app to be running all the time so he will
abuse this, and we end up having all the things running all the time
and the enduser gets bad performance, battery life
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Roberto Colistete Jr.
wrote:
> Em 14-08-2013 08:18, Zisu Andrei escreveu:
>
> IMHO, It is a joke to have in 2013 quad core & 2GB RAM smartphones with
> not real multitasking.
>
I understand your concerns, but I think that they may be a bit
premature. As discus
>
> Well, Ubuntu Touch is said by Canonical to enable convergence of devices,
> e.g., a smartphone which becomes a PC by connecting a monitor (by cable),
> mouse and keyboard (by Bluetooth).
> Let us remember that a notebook user with Linux, Mac OS and Windows
> has real multitasking.
Let's
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Roberto Colistete Jr.
wrote:
> Em 14-08-2013 08:18, Zisu Andrei escreveu:
>
>> Scott, careful, we might end up on the bad side of things, as developers
>> would want their app to be running all the time so he will abuse this, and
>> we end up having all the things
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Thomas Voß wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Roberto Colistete Jr.
> wrote:
>> Em 14-08-2013 08:18, Zisu Andrei escreveu:
>>
>>> Scott, careful, we might end up on the bad side of things, as developers
>>> would want their app to be running all the time so
Let me get this straight.
For v 1:
The system has services which do work in the background and can be
'adopted' by any other app to enable "working in the background"?
If this is accurate i dont see what the problem is!!
On 14 Aug 2013 15:48, "Thomas Voß" wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:38
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Fola Dawodu wrote:
> Let me get this straight.
>
> For v 1:
> The system has services which do work in the background and can be 'adopted'
> by any other app to enable "working in the background"?
>
exactly. Some use-cases might not be covered by the background
se
I think it's a good way to first restrict all accesses and then
"tighten" the "law" afterwards.
My concern are my (personal) core-apps:
Apps with APIs:
- Music, IRC, Jabber, ICQ (There is an API)
- E-Mail, Dropbox "new File uploaded" (OK, this could use the
calender-api for the "checking"-wakeup
>
> - Updates? (will surely be an API too)
> - Skype (will need to check, if there is someone calling/texting me)
Push notifications. I know Thomas was saying it's being worked on, but no
idea what's the state of it now. But not sure it would work for IRC.
Zisu Andrei
On 14 August 2013 16:21
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Zisu Andrei wrote:
>> - Updates? (will surely be an API too)
>> - Skype (will need to check, if there is someone calling/texting me)
>
> Push notifications. I know Thomas was saying it's being worked on, but no
> idea what's the state of it now. But not sure it
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Thomas Voß wrote:
> exactly. Some use-cases might not be covered by the background
> services we will be offering, but we can collect actual requirements
> over time and extend.
Also worth remembering given some of the comments: there's an actual
Linux distributi
I have attempted to connect my phone using 3g so that I can use it for
development without having to switch back to Android, however, the
data connection does not connect. I am in Canada and Rogers is
recognized as my carrier on the phone, I am able to get SMS and Calls
without issue, howe
On 08/14/2013 10:21 AM, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Thomas Voß
> wrote:
>> exactly. Some use-cases might not be covered by the background
>> services we will be offering, but we can collect actual requirements
>> over time and extend.
>
> Also worth remembering gi
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM, wrote:
> I have attempted to connect my phone using 3g so that I can use it for
> development without having to switch back to Android, however, the data
> connection does not connect. I am in Canada and Rogers is recognized as my
> carrier on the phone, I am abl
Thanks Sergio, the command /sbin/initctl restart network-manager fixed
my issue and I am now able to get 3G data! Awesome! Thanks for the
assistance.
Quoting Sergio Schvezov :
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM, wrote:
I have attempted to connect my phone using 3g so that I can use it for
Hello,
You don't need to install cyanogenmod, unless you want to use it in the
meantime before you port. Cyanogenmod runs on top on Ubuntu phony.
-Joshua Anderson
On Aug 14, 2013 11:59 AM, "Leo Tindle" wrote:
> Thanks for the info! I'll get cyanogenmod installed and see what I can
> figure out
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