[Ubuntu-phone] an "emergency" mode ?

2013-06-24 Thread Michel Renon
Hi, Few days ago, some friends tested UbuntuTouch on my nexus7. I noticed that some of them had trouble to find gestures/behavior (specially the back button). So I taught about an "emergency" mode : http://www.mr-consultant.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/proposal_emergency_1.jpg The idea

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Michel Renon
Hi all, I'm late to answer on this topic, but I've made some mockups : - first is about a back button in an overlay : http://www.mr-consultant.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/proposal_back_button_1.jpg - second is about a back gesture (already proposed in this thread) Please note that the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Do, 2013-06-13 at 17:02 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > A gesture might be more efficient than revealing the toolbar then > tapping Back. But I doubt it would be more discoverable. > hmm,, am i the only one who finds the behavior of the gallery logical and natural here ? swiping from

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Scott May
If, by gallery, you mean you have a picture open - I'd have to disagree. If I'm looking at a picture - and I swipe from the middle to anywhere - I'm simply trying to pan the image (or map or web page or whatever) around. I keep saying, gestures from the edges in are pretty safe, but the main

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Scott May
Hi Michel, Thanks for doing those mock-ups - very helpful. Seeing those, I'm a big fan of variation 2 - pull up then oblique. I think it's more consistent with the gestures as already described. Till later, Scott. __ Scott May. sc...@smartdata.com.au

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Tobias Mayr
Well, Android (and also others I think) does it like that: when you have a picture open, and swipe it to the left or to the right, it goes to the previous/next picture. I wouldn't say that is has to be like this just because others handle it like that, but at least users are used to this behavio

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Mo, 2013-06-24 at 19:09 +1000, Scott May wrote: > If, by gallery, you mean you have a picture open - I'd have to disagree. > > If I'm looking at a picture - and I swipe from the middle to anywhere - > I'm simply trying to pan the image (or map or web page or whatever) around. > > I keep s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Scott May
Yeah that's true, and I have to admit I was thinking about when the image is pinch zoomed some amount. Indeed for an unzoomed image the flick is natural. Getting into some grey areas when describing things here... Till later, Scott. __ Scott May. sc...@sma

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Sam Bull
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 10:48 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hmm,, am i the only one who finds the behavior of the gallery logical > and natural here ? > > swiping from the center of the screen to the left -> back > swiping from the center to the right -> forward While I agree with the design of t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] an "emergency" mode ?

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Leverette
I'm ok with this as long as it can be disabled. I agree that a lost user usually just starts tapping and hopes for the best. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 24, 2013 3:16 AM, "Michel Renon" wrote: > Hi, > > Few days ago, some friends tested UbuntuTouch on my nexus7. > I noticed that some of them had trou

[Ubuntu-phone] Best practices hacking on apps

2013-06-24 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello everybody, David pointed out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide to me which is a nicely written doc to help people hack on apps and push them to devices for testing. I was wondering if that's roughly what everybody else suggest to people who hack on apps for Ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] an "emergency" mode ?

2013-06-24 Thread Zisu Andrei
I guess that would be interesting to see. But how would you display the launcher and the toolbar on the same view? Because they kind of overlap. Zisu Andrei On 24 June 2013 12:17, Josh Leverette wrote: > I'm ok with this as long as it can be disabled. I agree that a lost user > usually just s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] an "emergency" mode ?

2013-06-24 Thread Michel Renon
Le 24/06/2013 14:31, Zisu Andrei a écrit : I guess that would be interesting to see. But how would you display the launcher and the toolbar on the same view? Because they kind of overlap. Yes they overlap, so I propose to show a reduced version of each one. The mockup implement that. It still

[Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Ayrton Araújo
I tried to change my keyboard layout to pt_BR using this informations: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Language_and_keyboard It not works, I also tried change the "maliit.org." directory to "maliit.org", but without success. Using the last build and changed the main language to pt_BR t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Spencer
On 06/24/2013 03:18 AM, Michel Renon wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm late to answer on this topic, but I've made some mockups : > > - first is about a back button in an overlay : > http://www.mr-consultant.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/proposal_back_button_1.jpg > > > > - second is about a back gest

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] an "emergency" mode ?

2013-06-24 Thread Zisu Andrei
Yeah, but you have to regenerate images everytime you change anything, and that's not exactly elegant. And it's not really that computationally intensive... Zisu Andrei On 24 June 2013 13:57, Michel Renon wrote: > Le 24/06/2013 14:31, Zisu Andrei a écrit : > > I guess that would be interesti

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] an "emergency" mode ?

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Leverette
the dock and toolbar could "ghost" onto the screen from the left and bottom, where they animate in from their respective edges and rapidly lose opacity as they animate before disappearing altogether. All of this would take ~1sec. The user would then be inclined to believe that dragging from one of

[Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Василий Алексеенко
how to close running app in Ubuntu Touch? without power off. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Leverette
I think you go to the apps page on the home screen. Look at the preview image for the app you want to close. Touch it and hold your finger there until an "X" appears, then touch the "X". I am not certain though. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 24, 2013 10:20 AM, "Василий Алексеенко" wrote: > how to close

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Николай Шатохин
just drop it out from screen with running apps thumbnails (as show video rewiews) 2013/6/24 Василий Алексеенко > how to close running app in Ubuntu Touch? without power off. > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] an "emergency" mode ?

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi, one thing to keep in mind here is that the phones will have some sort of introduction video explaining the gestures on the very first boot. So the owner of the phone most likely knows all those things and won't need such a thing. Actually, I think this can be quite annoying too if triggered

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Jose Juan Valenzuela Oliver
Also slide from bottom and hit X On Jun 24, 2013 11:24 AM, "Николай Шатохин" wrote: > just drop it out from screen with running apps thumbnails (as show video > rewiews) > > > 2013/6/24 Василий Алексеенко > >> how to close running app in Ubuntu Touch? without power off. >> >> -- >> Mailing list:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Bill Filler
On 06/24/2013 10:06 AM, Ayrton Araújo wrote: > I tried to change my keyboard layout to pt_BR using this informations: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Language_and_keyboard > > It not works, I also tried change the "maliit.org > ." directory to "maliit.org

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Sam Bull
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 11:27 -0400, Jose Juan Valenzuela Oliver wrote: > Also slide from bottom and hit X > That was removed ages ago. I've noticed a couple of apps now have a Quit command in the HUD instead, hopefully this will become universal, as switching back to the apps lens is a pai

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Bill Filler wrote: > > Hi Ayrton, > I've updated the instructions to make them a bit clearer. They can be > found here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Language_and_keyboard > Hi, I am also interested in changing the input language, but I went on to f

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 11:27 -0400, Jose Juan Valenzuela Oliver wrote: > > Also slide from bottom and hit X > > > > That was removed ages ago. I've noticed a couple of apps now have a Quit > Why was it removed? It was quite practical! I think it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Jose Juan Valenzuela Oliver
Agreed, but at the stage we're at, it may or may not be put back there, guess we'll just have to wait and see, and hope for the best. José Juan Valenzuela 809-935-2109 (Orange) Ahorros en ofertas de hasta 90% On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Cláudio Sampaio

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Zoltán Balogh
Actually, you do not need to touch the "X". Tapping the thumbview of the app when the "X" is visible is enough. z On 06/24/2013 06:22 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: I think you go to the apps page on the home screen. Look at the preview image for the app you want to close. Touch it and hold your

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Zoltán Balogh wrote: > Actually, you do not need to touch the "X". Tapping the thumbview of the > app when the "X" is visible is enough. > This seems counter-intuitive to me. Intuitively I think closing would occur if I hit the X, but if I hit the middle of the t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Bill Filler
On 06/24/2013 12:24 PM, Cláudio Sampaio wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Bill Filler > mailto:bill.fil...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > > Hi Ayrton, > I've updated the instructions to make them a bit clearer. They can > be found here: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNot

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Bill Filler wrote: > > You must be on an old build. /etc/xdg/maliit.org/server.conf is part of > maliit-framework package. version 0.94.2phablet5 the latest version that's > in the daily build. Use phablet-flash to reflash perhaps? > > That's weird. I had 0.94.2pha

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Bill Filler
On 06/24/2013 03:17 PM, Cláudio Sampaio wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Bill Filler > mailto:bill.fil...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > > You must be on an old build. /etc/xdg/maliit.org/server.conf > is part of maliit-framework > package. version 0

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bill Filler wrote: > > I am installing as of now the flipped image. Let's see if it works > better, I see that it uses saucy. > > Have only tried it on the unflipped image, but it should work. > That was it, it worked. I can see e.g. the "ç". However, I am unable

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how to close

2013-06-24 Thread Zisu Andrei
Claudio's got a point Zisu Andrei On 24 June 2013 18:26, Cláudio Sampaio wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Zoltán Balogh < > zoltan.bal...@canonical.com> wrote: > >> Actually, you do not need to touch the "X". Tapping the thumbview of >> the app when the "X" is visible is enough. >> >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard layout doesn't change

2013-06-24 Thread Bill Filler
On 06/24/2013 04:25 PM, Cláudio Sampaio wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bill Filler > mailto:bill.fil...@canonical.com>> wrote: > >> I am installing as of now the flipped image. Let's see if it >> works better, I see that it uses saucy. > Have only tried it on the unflipped im

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Zisu Andrei
Too many places, variations and bla. I urge the design team to find only ONE size fits all, as long as it adresses Android's ugliness. That's the biggest difference between iOS and Android: consistency, you only have one "paradigm" that you use to get back in the app, and one home button you use t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Spencer
On 06/24/2013 03:47 PM, Zisu Andrei wrote: > Too many places, variations and bla. I urge the design team to find > only ONE size fits all, as long as it adresses Android's ugliness. > > That's the biggest difference between iOS and Android: consistency, > you only have one "paradigm" that you use

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-24 Thread Josh Leverette
Why do you need a back button at all in the email app? I can actually think of a number of effective implementations that don't require a back button -- not even to return from viewing an email. However, if an app is making such extensive use of the back button, there's nothing stopping the develop