On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > ACTION (phonedations): Identify how to retrieve the lock screen state
>
There is a branch waiting to land into unity8 that allows this:
https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/is-active/+merge/223653
Once that's in, you should be able
hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 09.07.2014, 10:36 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
> On 14-07-08 04:36 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > hi,
> > Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 17:34 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
> >> On 14-07-07 06:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> >>> 3) on request of the security team it should not b
On 14-07-08 04:36 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 17:34 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
>> On 14-07-07 06:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>>> 3) on request of the security team it should not be possible to enable
>>> adb access if there is no password or the default passwo
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 14:57 +0200 schrieb Oliver Grawert:
> hi,
> Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 12:43 +0200 schrieb Oliver Grawert:
>
> > 3) on request of the security team it should not be possible to enable
> > adb access if there is no password or the default password set for the
> > ph
>From a CI point of view, my main concern is that we:
1. Preserve adb shell access and a way to run things as root. If this means
we have to setup sudo post-install in our CI infrastructure, that's fine. I
already have a patch to do just that, but I am starting to think this
should either be anothe
On Jul 08, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote:
>On martes 8 de julio de 2014 10h'58:26 ART, Jamie Strandboge wrote:
>> On 07/08/2014 03:45 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>>> Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 22:45 +0200 schrieb Alexander Sack:
>> ...
>> To be clear, we are wanting to support devices th
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:03:26AM +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 04:47:38PM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> > > >> 4) you will be able to switch developer mode on/off in the
> > > >> system-settings in a sub page of the "about this device" section [1].
> > > >> the firs
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 09:02 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> > for RTM only password or number-combination based unlocking will be
> > available (no "pattern-drawing" or the like which could not be
> > represented by a password in the password file) ... so for both these
> > cases we wil
On martes 8 de julio de 2014 10h'58:26 ART, Jamie Strandboge wrote:
On 07/08/2014 03:45 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 22:45 +0200 schrieb Alexander Sack:
...
To be clear, we are wanting to support devices that are 'ro' but with adb
enabled, right? Ie, I don't want to hav
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 08:58 -0500 schrieb Jamie Strandboge:
> > see the UI design, the switch to enable dev mode will be unresponsive
> > unless you have set a new non empty password that is not the default
> > one. (the same goes for ubuntu-device-flash it will not allow using
> > --dev
On 07/08/2014 03:45 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 22:45 +0200 schrieb Alexander Sack:
>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> with RTM approaching quickly we are working on the developer mode to
>>> make it act in a more secure manner. the
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Christian Dywan <
christian.dy...@canonical.com> wrote:
> On 08.07.2014 13:57, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > hi,
> > Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 07:11 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
> >
> >> I just want adb to refuse connections if they are attempted _while_ the
> scr
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Marc Deslauriers [2014-07-08 7:09 -0400]:
>> You can make adb detect when running on the emulator, and allow connections
>> for
>> testing perhaps.
>
> I wouldn't like to see this. First, we need to test on real hw as well
> and don't want to
hi,
Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 12:43 +0200 schrieb Oliver Grawert:
> 3) on request of the security team it should not be possible to enable
> adb access if there is no password or the default password set for the
> phablet user so that there is no predictable sudo password that is
> identical on a
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 14:38 +0200 schrieb Alexander Sack:
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Martin Pitt wrote:
> > Marc Deslauriers [2014-07-08 7:09 -0400]:
> >> You can make adb detect when running on the emulator, and allow
> >> connections for
> >> testing perhaps.
> >
> > I wouldn
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 07:11 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
>
>> I just want adb to refuse connections if they are attempted _while_ the
>> screen
>> is locked. If adb is already servicing a connection, it doesn't need to drop
>> it
>> whe
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 07:11 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
> I just want adb to refuse connections if they are attempted _while_ the screen
> is locked. If adb is already servicing a connection, it doesn't need to drop
> it
> when the screen then locks.
so how would you as a develope
Marc Deslauriers [2014-07-08 7:09 -0400]:
> You can make adb detect when running on the emulator, and allow connections
> for
> testing perhaps.
I wouldn't like to see this. First, we need to test on real hw as well
and don't want to provide two different approaches to this, and second
it would
On 14-07-08 04:36 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 17:34 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
>> On 14-07-07 06:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>>> 3) on request of the security team it should not be possible to enable
>>> adb access if there is no password or the default passwo
On 14-07-08 01:03 AM, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Marc Deslauriers [2014-07-07 17:34 -0400]:
>> We also asked that adb refuse connections if the screen is locked. Is this
>> implemented?
>
> All the other bits (requiring changing of password etc.) already make
> it rather hard for automating tests, but a
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Marc Deslauriers [2014-07-07 17:34 -0400]:
>> We also asked that adb refuse connections if the screen is locked. Is
this
>> implemented?
>
> All the other bits (requiring changing of password etc.) already make
> it rather hard for automating tests, b
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 08.07.2014, 00:20 +0200 schrieb Alexander Sack:
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Steve Langasek
> wrote:
> > Hi Marc,
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 04:47:38PM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> >> >> 4) you will be able to switch developer mode on/off in the
> >> >> system-s
hi,
Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 15:14 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> Hi Marc,
>
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 04:47:38PM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> > >> 4) you will be able to switch developer mode on/off in the
> > >> system-settings in a sub page of the "about this device" section [1].
>
> >
Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 22:45 +0200 schrieb Alexander Sack:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > with RTM approaching quickly we are working on the developer mode to
> > make it act in a more secure manner. the following changes were
> > discussed with the se
hi,
Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 17:34 -0400 schrieb Marc Deslauriers:
> On 14-07-07 06:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > 3) on request of the security team it should not be possible to enable
> > adb access if there is no password or the default password set for the
> > phablet user so that there is
Marc Deslauriers [2014-07-07 17:34 -0400]:
> We also asked that adb refuse connections if the screen is locked. Is this
> implemented?
All the other bits (requiring changing of password etc.) already make
it rather hard for automating tests, but as there is currently *no*
way of programmatically u
On 14-07-07 07:09 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:20:56AM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote:
>
Sure, you enable a password/PIN on the lock screen.
>
>>> I may be misunderstanding; does this imply that one must enable
>>> password-based unlock on the screen in order to have p
On 14-07-07 06:14 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 04:47:38PM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
4) you will be able to switch developer mode on/off in the
system-settings in a sub page of the "about this device" section [1].
>
the first bit (1) is alrea
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Steve Langasek
wrote:
> Right, but that wasn't my question. I don't want to use a password to
> unlock my phone screen. I *do* want a password for sudo use over adb. Is
> this supported, or not?
>
Disabling sudo on pseudo-ttys when the user has no password is t
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:20:56AM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote:
> >> Sure, you enable a password/PIN on the lock screen.
> > I may be misunderstanding; does this imply that one must enable
> > password-based unlock on the screen in order to have password-based sudo
> > over adb? I would not like
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Steve Langasek
wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 04:47:38PM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
>> >> 4) you will be able to switch developer mode on/off in the
>> >> system-settings in a sub page of the "about this device" section [1].
>
>> >> the first bit
Hi Marc,
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 04:47:38PM -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
> >> 4) you will be able to switch developer mode on/off in the
> >> system-settings in a sub page of the "about this device" section [1].
> >> the first bit (1) is already implemented but will need some extension to
> >>
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Marc Deslauriers
wrote:
> On 14-07-07 06:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>> 3) on request of the security team it should not be possible to enable
>> adb access if there is no password or the default password set for the
>> phablet user so that there is no predictable
On 14-07-07 06:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> 3) on request of the security team it should not be possible to enable
> adb access if there is no password or the default password set for the
> phablet user so that there is no predictable sudo password that is
> identical on all devices. there are st
I have a WIP patch [1] for the CI scripts to enable NOPASSWD sudo for the
phablet user, and I'm trying to pick off all the adb shell calls and ensure
we always sudo to the proper user. This mostly works for provisioning
right now, even with a mocked up image to include the new adbd. Where I run
in
On 14-07-07 04:45 PM, Alexander Sack wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> with RTM approaching quickly we are working on the developer mode to
>> make it act in a more secure manner. the following changes were
>> discussed with the security team and will be
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
>
> with RTM approaching quickly we are working on the developer mode to
> make it act in a more secure manner. the following changes were
> discussed with the security team and will be implemented soon ... this
> will require a bunch of
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hmm, didnt we discuss trying to run a "loopback-user-owned-sshd" on an
> unprivileged port ? probably thats the way to go ... i'm not sure i want
> the user to be able to just enable ssh without sudo'ing first ...
cjwatson advised that the
hi,
Am Montag, den 07.07.2014, 10:02 -0700 schrieb Robert Park:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> > 2) adb will not allow root and only let you in as phablet user (you will
> > have to use sudo like on any other ubuntu installation when doing
> > administrative tasks)
>
>
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> 2) adb will not allow root and only let you in as phablet user (you will
> have to use sudo like on any other ubuntu installation when doing
> administrative tasks)
I had a look over phablet-shell and the only thing it needs root for
is to s
hi,
with RTM approaching quickly we are working on the developer mode to
make it act in a more secure manner. the following changes were
discussed with the security team and will be implemented soon ... this
will require a bunch of changes in out external tools that use adb
access for tests or dev
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