Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 07.09.2016, 02:43 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:08:30 -0700, Ryan Cunningham wrote: > > > > I have heard recently that Ubuntu has plans to cancel support for > > processors in the Intel 80386 family (and clones of the same). > Hi, > > I'm not a developer

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 06 Sep 2016 21:58:44 -0400, John Moser wrote: >Collecting, inventorying, and preparing e-waste as a >refurbished good incurs more labor per unit than rolling new units off >an assembly line That's evil bullshit! If we simply use our own computers for a very long period of time, instead to

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:15:40 -0400, JMZ wrote: >Wow, thanks John. Your intensive explanation of e-waste and its >impact on the environment and human labor is very enlightening. But it's a lie, completely wrong, ignoring what should be done in the first place! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:08 AM, Ryan Cunningham wrote: > > I have heard recently that Ubuntu has plans to cancel support for processors > in the Intel 80386 family (and clones of the same). This is impacting me > because I have a 32-bit Ubuntu machine (powered by an Intel 80586) which runs > Ub

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:08:12 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:15:40 -0400, JMZ wrote: >>Wow, thanks John. Your intensive explanation of e-waste and its >>impact on the environment and human labor is very enlightening. > >But it's a lie, completely wrong, ignoring what should

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 14:17:25 +0300, Simos Xenitellis wrote: >By using the laptop as a server, it is always on. This causes issues >with the mechanical hard disk that would limit its lifespan. JFTR spinning a HDD down and up shortens the lifespan much more than continuous operation. -- Ubuntu-deve

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Thierry Andriamirado
Le 7 septembre 2016 04:58:44 UTC+03:00, John Moser a écrit : > >that context are uncommon by nature.  That in an of itself seems to >warrant a project specially dedicated to e-waste reuse programs, rather >than a best-effort and costly nod to the concept of older systems. There are countless v

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Thierry Andriamirado
Le 7 septembre 2016 14:17:25 UTC+03:00, Simos Xenitellis a écrit : >I am not addressing your request, I am focusing on the practicalities >of maintaining an old laptop as a server. >I assume your laptop was made around the year 2000-2003 because the >CPU is Intel 80586. I still own and use su

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, On 7 September 2016 at 12:17, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > The mechanical harddisk should be a PATA (that is, IDE and not SATA), > meaning that it is not replaceable with a new disk; PATA disks are not > manufactured any more. A minor point, but there's a company called Kingspec who sell new PA

Re: libmariadbclient-dev On Ubuntu 16.04 lts

2016-09-07 Thread Robie Basak
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:11:56AM +, ibrahim mohho wrote: > kindly if you can help me How To Install libmariadbclient-dev On Ubuntu 16.04 > lts libmariadbclient-dev does not exist on 16.04. Using libmysqlclient-dev should work fine. If not, can you please explain why this won't work for you?

libmariadbclient-dev On Ubuntu 16.04 lts

2016-09-07 Thread ibrahim mohho
dear team kindly if you can help me How To Install libmariadbclient-dev On Ubuntu 16.04 lts -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: libmariadbclient-dev On Ubuntu 16.04 lts

2016-09-07 Thread J Fernyhough
On 7 September 2016 at 09:11, ibrahim mohho wrote: > dear team > > kindly if you can help me How To Install libmariadbclient-dev On Ubuntu 16.04 lts While this is not a support list, two possible options. Option 1: sudo apt-get install libmariadb-client-lgpl-dev Option 2: Go here: https://downl

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Brendan Perrine
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 14:17:25 +0300 Simos Xenitellis wrote: > The "Raw Value" is the number of hours. The maximum I ever saw on a I have a computer that I have only had for a little more than 2 years that already has more than 10,000 powered on hours on two disks granted these are newer than pa

How to get Supervisor bug in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS fixed?

2016-09-07 Thread Peter Odding
Dear Ubuntu developers, The output of $(dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Maintainer}' supervisor) brought me to this list. According to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss this list serves the purpose of a "point of contact for Ubuntu users to reach Ubuntu develope

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread John Moser
On Wed, 2016-09-07 at 15:54 +0300, Thierry Andriamirado wrote: > > Le 7 septembre 2016 04:58:44 UTC+03:00, John Moser l.com> a écrit : > > > > > > that context are uncommon by nature.  That in an of itself seems to > > warrant a project specially dedicated to e-waste reuse programs, > > rather

Re: How to get Supervisor bug in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS fixed?

2016-09-07 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2016-09-08 00:13, Peter Odding wrote: > I'm willing to back port the minimal changes required to have correct > maintainer scripts generated :-) Great! > but I wouldn't know how to actually get the changes into a released > version of Ubuntu... Please see

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:04:21 -0700, Brendan Perrine wrote: >I have a computer that I have only had for a little more than 2 years >that already has more than 10,000 powered on hours on two disks >granted these are newer than pata disks As already pointed out, HDDs suffer from spinning down and up,