Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I try to build a kernel for Wily, that is as close as possible to a > kernel I use for Arch Linux. The reason is, that for the Arch install > Green drives don't run berserk and I anyway need a 3.x-rt. > > Then I tried to build the kernel [1]

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > This line ... > > [root@moonstudio src]# export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2;wget > https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.10.61.tar.gz > https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.10/older/patch-3.10.61-rt65.patch.gz > && ta

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:08:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: >Are you editing ".config" manually? Yes ... >if yes, why don't you use "make menuconfig" (or another config target) >because there are dependencies that you can't account for when using >vi/nano/emacs/whatever. ... OTOH if you get an error for /b

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:26:24 -0400, Tom H wrote: >You seemed to imply in your first email that the above was failing >(IIRC!). If the above's working, where's the problem? This does work to build kernel packages, so I don't need howtos about building kernels. I asked for help regarding the issues

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Oliver Grawert
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2015, 11:44 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:26:24 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >You seemed to imply in your first email that the above was failing > >(IIRC!). If the above's working, where's the problem? > > This does work to build kernel packages, so I don't ne

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:20:33 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: >if you just want to know if an arch kernel wakes up your disk when >running with ubuntu userspace you could as well just copy over the >binaries from a running arch system. Or just edit grub.cfg to mix the Arch kernel with the Ubuntu insta

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 22.08.2015, 13:21 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > > Perhaps you understand an analogy. Doing it that way would be like > measuring with a meter, that is powered by the same current source as > the circuit you'll measure. IOW I quasi try to archive "galvanic > isolation" from Ub

Jump start help needed.

2015-08-22 Thread Vishnu Vivekanand
Hello All, I have a few years of programming in the Windows environment. I have just started to explore the Unix/Linux/Ubuntu world. I have been spending a week or two around the Ubuntu home page and I am not able to get started in programming. Using some tutorials I have been able to, no furth

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:08:03 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> Are you editing ".config" manually? > > Yes ... > >> if yes, why don't you use "make menuconfig" (or another config target) >> because there are dependencies that you can't account for whe

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:20:33 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: >> >> if you just want to know if an arch kernel wakes up your disk when >> running with ubuntu userspace you could as well just copy over the >> binaries from a running arch system. >

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > also note that an ubuntu kernel package is more than vmlinuz and > modules ... there are configs and postinst scripts run at install time > of the deb. given that make-kpkg is a debian tool that nobody in ubuntu > uses for building kernel

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 22.08.2015, 08:52 -0400 schrieb Tom H: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > > > also note that an ubuntu kernel package is more than vmlinuz and > > modules ... there are configs and postinst scripts run at install time > > of the deb. given that make-k

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 08:32:35 -0400, Tom H wrote: >There's nothing difficult with "make menuconfig" because you can >search for a specific config value with "/" except that you like to >ask for help but never seem to like the advice that's given. This is the first reply to help me with the issue ;)

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 22.08.2015, 15:56 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > > Removing modules from the config that anyway don't get loaded doesn't > matter, so your analogy doesn't fit, i'm not talking about modules ... does your kernel have the sane apparmor patchlevel and configs set (or does it pos

Re: Errors when building a kernel

2015-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Tom's hint is useful, menuconfig's search option does the trick, I seemingly got rid of MPILIB=m. Thank you. Regards, Ralf [1] [root@moonstudio src]# export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2;wget https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.10.61.tar.gz https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projec

Re: Jump start help needed.

2015-08-22 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Hello Vishnu! You're in the right place! Ubuntu and Debian are the most advanced Linux distributions ever created... :-) You can try, for example: --- sudo apt-get install build-essential --- This command will install compilers and libraries for you. You might also be interested in Golang, w

Re: Jump start help needed.

2015-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:24:36 -0300, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: >Ubuntu have something very cool, for example, let say you want to have >the "java" command, but you don't have it installed... Well, Ubuntu >will tell you which package brings the "java" command if you type it >at the console! The comma

RE: Jump start help needed.

2015-08-22 Thread Vishnu Vivekanand
Thank you Thiago, Your response is certainly encouraging and enlightening which is giving rise to a few more questions. Before I ask them, I would like to list them the two states of mind that I am in. a. The kind of programming I have done is that I am given access to a code base repository f