Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Remco wrote: > Once upon a time, Linux was very hard to use on the desktop. If you > wanted to do anything, you had to read manuals and get flamed on > mailinglists. In recent years this has all been turned around. There > were some detractors that would argue that Linux would become as > insecure

cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready

Hi all, I am using Ubuntu since 3 Years. I would consider myself as a advanced linux-user and professional software developer. Just to check the new version, I migrated two 9.4 Systems to 9.10 and installed a Karmic Beta on a fresh system. Now (3 days before the release) karmic seems to be unre

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Steven Susbauer wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > >> Dotan Cohen wrote: For your information, Linux savvy companies tend to... >>> >>> Linux-savvy companies are not the issue here. GUI server tools will >>> attract mom 'n pop small businesses as

Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready

Basically just cause you are facing some (minor in my opinion) problems, you want to stop the Karmic release 3 days before its due date ? Come on !!! > Hi all, > > I am using Ubuntu since 3 Years. I would consider > myself as a advanced linux-user and professional software developer. > > Just t

Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready

(Sorry for top-posting; bad MTA) Have you filed any bugs WRT PA and mpd? AFAICT, those issues are integration ones, not anything at fault in PA, and there are several workarounds allowing a user to output to PA through mpd. As for Adobe Flash, there is anecdotal "evidence" that nspluginwrapper is

Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready

H, > > The user dialogs for several subsystems are not ready yet. For > > example... the old dialogs for setting detailed user rights or > > changing the welcome screen are not included. > > > > As far as I know, the new GDM made the old "welcome screen setting > dialog" obsolete. Eventually

Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready

Am 26.10.2009 um 12:08 schrieb Dirk Hoeschen: > Now (3 days before the release) karmic seems to be unready. > Even if the system is stable, I found many bugs and inconsistent > issues. Obviously, the team is totally overwhelmed by bugs. Look for example at bug #459067:

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Steven Susbauer wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Thank you for proving my point. > > Or proving the point that easy to use GUI configuration tools can > actually help make the situation better, for example suggesting the > user set a password for their SMTP server

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Dotan Cohen wrote: >> That tool is generally called a server. That Mac OS X tool is called >> Samba, with a nice interface to configure it. I see no reason why they >> should be forced to run Mac OS X to do this. >> > > I think that Chan was giving an example. > > >> People should have the choi

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Dotan Cohen wrote: >> And you thing that simple file sharing server based on SMB are >> comparable to Mustang GT? >> > > No. But I think that running a public HTTP server is. No way - everybody _and_ their monkey runs a public HTTP server today. You can't expect that that will ever be done by

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

John Moser wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer wrote: >> I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI is >> better. Shouldn't we focus on what the typical business wants and what >> they're prepared to use? > > This is an easy question. > > First off,

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I agree that all networks should be managed by an experienced >> administrator, but unfortunately a lot of them aren't. We can't change >> that. Many businesses just want something that works and is easy to >> manage, even if there are "issues" such as no backups. The target

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote on 24/10/09 13:25: >... > Why not have a GUI program that performs brain surgery? That rebuilds > Ford smallblocks? That gives legal advice? Some jobs require a > professional, and making them "accessible" does nobody any good. The s

Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready

Le lundi 26 octobre 2009 à 14:07 +0100, Markus Hitter a écrit : > requires me to go to the keyboard > manager after each reboot before I can make use of the keyboard. Hi, The bug is low because it's the first ticket about the issue and is rather due to local configuration than a bug which will

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Derek Broughton wrote: > John Moser wrote: > > >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer wrote: >> >>> I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI is >>> better. Shouldn't we focus on what the typical business wants and what >>> they're prepared to use? >>>

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Caroline Ford wrote: > > On 25 Oct 2009, at 15:09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>> Or puts them out of a job? >>> >> >> Likely we are talking about a small business here, so the decision >> maker might be the top of the organization's food chain. But it might >> get him sued, and thus out of a business.

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Can you explain how the system becomes inflexible by adding a GUI tool? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Chan Chung Hang Christopher Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:05:37 To: Caroline Ford Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu Domain Se

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> John Moser wrote: >> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer >>> wrote: >>> I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI is better. Shouldn't we focus on what the typical business

Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready

Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 26.10.2009 um 12:08 schrieb Dirk Hoeschen: > >> Now (3 days before the release) karmic seems to be unready. >> Even if the system is stable, I found many bugs and inconsistent >> issues. > > Obviously, the team is totally overwhelmed by bugs. Look for example > at bu

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

> > 1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus Hitter) > I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is better because it is the time and we still have bugs in kernel, when changing icon set they are not well applied, ISO files are not well mounted, some icon

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

2009/10/26 solaris manzur > > >> 1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus Hitter) >> > > and one more... notify-osd is losing performance... ms windows is horrible > and I do not want to use it anymore but when they deliver a new version of > their operating system they worry a

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:16:31 -0500 solaris manzur wrote: > > > > 1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus Hitter) > > > > I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is better > because it is the time and we still have bugs in kernel, when changing icon >

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

Just curious here. Apart from the obvious cases of failure to boot the CD and legal issues, what are some examples of what would be considered a "showstopper" level bug that would suspend/defer a release? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings o

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:16 -0500, solaris manzur wrote: > > > 1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus > Hitter) > > I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is > better because it is the time and we still have bugs in kernel,

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

Hello, Le lundi 26 octobre 2009 à 13:45 -0700, George Farris a écrit : [...] > > I also agree. There are some major high level functions such as ISO > files that really need to be working well. > > For example I can't burn two copies of an ISO in a row, it doesn't > work. > > Totem doesn'

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:16 -0500, solaris manzur wrote: > > > 1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus > Hitter) > > I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is > better because it is the time and we still have bugs in kernel,

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 22:05 +0100, Jonathan Ernst wrote: > Hello, > > Le lundi 26 octobre 2009 à 13:45 -0700, George Farris a écrit : > [...] > > > > I also agree. There are some major high level functions such as ISO > > files that really need to be working well. > > > > For example I can't

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Derek Broughton wrote: > Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> John Moser wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer wrote: > I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GU

Re: Compiz zoom scary, enabled by default in Karmic RC

Op zondag 25-10-2009 om 02:20 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Joe Zimmerman: > I just recently installed Karmic RC, and happened to inadvertently > press Super+Button2 You mean button 3 (the middle button is the "third" button as it was added to mice after the main (left) button and the right butto

Re: artwork

Op zondag 25-10-2009 om 20:55 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Shentino: > I didn't notice the artwork problem myself until after that date, as > I'm not normally one to jump straight on the development version. > Having only one box and not enough beef to run a VM kinda makes me > beta shy. About o

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Op vrijdag 23-10-2009 om 13:03 uur [tijdzone +1030], schreef Ryan Dwyer: > BTW: GUI tools shouldn't run on a server, but on the admin's > (or > pseudo-admin's) desktop. Using a secure connection to the > server, of > course. > I take it no one has any issue

RE: Ubuntu Domain Server

Op vrijdag 23-10-2009 om 11:57 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Kevin Fries: > I mentioned this the other day, and other than a few people making off > line comments indicating that they had never heard of the product, my > suggestion of GOsa got completely ignored. Maybe it needs better documentatio

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Jan Claeys wrote: > Op vrijdag 23-10-2009 om 11:57 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Kevin > Fries: > >> I mentioned this the other day, and other than a few people making off >> line comments indicating that they had never heard of the product, my >> suggestion of GOsa got completely ignored. >>

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

schultz.patr...@gmail.com wrote: > Can you explain how the system becomes inflexible by adding a GUI tool? > Well, the whole premise for the tool was apparently to enable non-admins to administer a server. Are you going to give a whole list of options that they know nothing about? As for tho

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 54

Op maandag 26-10-2009 om 14:36 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George Farris: > Oh right and also http://www.cbc.ca/video none of them play in > Firefox. > > If anyone knows how to debug this stuff I'd love to try, but really it > works with Firefox on Windows and Mac but not Linux, Fail. Well, I