Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Conrad Knauer
On Feb 9, 2008 1:15 AM, Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'If Miro can't be added to the default Hardy install (e.g. added to > > ubuntu-desktop), would it be possible for Hardy+1?' > > Forgive me for asking this - but is the market for watching internet TV > really that big? No no, it

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Emmet Hikory
Sarah Hobbs wrote: > > 'If Miro can't be added to the default Hardy install (e.g. added to > > ubuntu-desktop), would it be possible for Hardy+1?' > > Forgive me for asking this - but is the market for watching internet TV > really that big? Conrad Knauer replied: > What would define a "large ma

Vinagre is confusing

2008-02-09 Thread Thomas Novin
Hello Today on Application > Internet I've got Remote Desktop Viewer and Terminal Server Client (on Hardy). As a user that knows he's is using Remote Desktop Protocol to connect to his Windows server, what do you think he will choose? I think the user will launch Remote Desktop Viewer/Vinagre and

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 09/02/2008 Conrad Knauer wrote: > Apologies; I meant to ask: 'If Miro can't be added to the default > Hardy install (e.g. added to ubuntu-desktop), would it be possible for > Hardy+1?' I personally love miro but can't still recommend it to my friends since it really crashes a lot on ubuntu. In

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Miro is a great program, but it was *barely* working on my 1.5Ghz, 512ram laptop. Pretty much unusable. So, it wouldn't really fit the min ubuntu requirements and make some people unhappy. Not necessary... On Feb 9, 2008 10:29 AM, Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/02/2008 Conrad

Re: "Make sense" keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor?

2008-02-09 Thread Evan
It is only a keybinding, so as long as people can change it, then the default doesn't matter all that much. The only problem with the concept at the moment is that people will expect it to work during full-screen apps like Ctrl-Alt-Delete does in windows. It doesn't at the moment because SDL and op

Use SVG icons instead of PNG

2008-02-09 Thread Ioannis Nousias
I'm sure this has been asked before. Most of the system application launchers use PNG icons. For example, Firefox and Thunderbird (two of the most commonly used apps). Very few use SVG, like gnome-terminal. I like to have few icons on my desktops that are stretch to ~x2 their size. PNGs look a

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Dylan McCall
Miro is a wonderful idea, and the Miro guide is an excellent web site, but the program itself is a painfully bloated (and buggy) pig. The word "refactor" echoes in the back of my mind every time I use it -- which is very often, because it's still an excellent concept! Alas, it should definitely not

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Conrad Knauer
On Feb 9, 2008 4:29 AM, Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally love miro but can't still recommend it to my friends since > it really crashes a lot on ubuntu. Including such an application on the > default cd would,in my opinion, be not-so-good publicity for ubuntu. Out of cur

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Evan
I don't know about the average computer, but it probably varies quite a bit. I'm typing this on a P3 1Ghz with 256MB of ram. Ubuntu runs moderately slowly but easily survivable. Xubuntu runs decently. I'm a bit of a speed freak though, so I installed the core bits from the alternate cd and built a

Re: Use SVG icons instead of PNG

2008-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
One intention for Hardy, at least from what I read before (correct me if it's changed) was to use SVGs for everything, so I'm guessing things are changing over bit by bit. Many of the apps have a png and an svg version available though. On Feb 9, 2008 10:36 AM, Ioannis Nousias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Vinagre is confusing

2008-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
I'm guessing because VNC is kind of standard. On Feb 9, 2008 5:19 AM, Thomas Novin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > Today on Application > Internet I've got Remote Desktop Viewer and > Terminal Server Client (on Hardy). > > As a user that knows he's is using Remote Desktop Protocol to conne

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Conrad Knauer
On Feb 9, 2008 12:09 PM, Evan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know about the average computer, but it probably varies quite a bit. > I'm typing this on a P3 1Ghz with 256MB of ram. Ubuntu runs moderately > slowly but easily survivable. Xubuntu runs decently. I'm a bit of a speed > freak thoug

Re: Use SVG icons instead of PNG

2008-02-09 Thread Milan
Ioannis Nousias a écrit : > I'm sure this has been asked before. > > Most of the system application launchers use PNG icons. For example, > Firefox and Thunderbird (two of the most commonly used apps). Very few > use SVG, like gnome-terminal. I like to have few icons on my desktops > that are s

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Mine is a ThinkPad T40. 1.5Ghz CPU, ATI Radeon 7500 (32mb ram, open-source "radeon" driver). I am using Miro's repository, so it is the latest version. That said, I think it would be great if we advertised it on the website (those screenshots could use some updating too, btw). On Feb 9, 2008 12:5

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 13:09 -0500, Evan wrote: > I'm typing this on a P3 1Ghz with 256MB of ram. Ubuntu runs moderately > slowly but easily survivable. ... > I'd say that this is about the lowest-end pc you'll find normal Ubuntu > installed on though. 1 GHz? Luxury! I run Ubuntu on a ~700-MHz At

Re: Use SVG icons instead of PNG

2008-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Feb 9, 2008 1:27 PM, Milan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To sum up, yes, having SVG icons for every app would be good, and no, it > does not hurt performance. > Depends on your system. The calculations for SVG technically take more cycles to do than just drawing a raster does. I'm guessing th

Re: Transmission as default bittorrent client

2008-02-09 Thread Jonathan Musther
I know I was defending Transmission, but I just had a bad experience with it, checked on their forums, and it seems to be a fairly common thing. I don't normally turn off my computer when I'm downloading something big, but yesterday I was downloading a torrent which was coming rather slowly, and d

Re: "Make sense" keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor?

2008-02-09 Thread Jonathan Musther
Doesn't xorg hold some keybindings? I thought Ctrl+Alt+Backspace worked to kill X in full screen apps, I'm sure I've used it in games. One thing we really do need is a way to easily make new keybindings. The existing gnome keyboard shortcuts GUI is fine, but it doesn't allow you to add them. Wh

Re: "Make sense" keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor?

2008-02-09 Thread Evan
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is the only keyboard control that x locks, and it kills x completely. There is no way to kill only the crashed full-screen app. Non-fullscreen apps can be killed with xkill or others, but when an app grabs the entire keyboard and crashes, it's Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or a hard power-o

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
I've done it on 192MB. It wasn't pretty (mostly because the open source ATI drivers are the only thing that supports the Rage II, and only at 800x600 when the card can do up to 102x768seriously, Ubuntu was *not* meant for 800x600 systems), but it was functional. That one's around 300MHz, I th

Re: "Make sense" keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor?

2008-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
For some reason, I think Compiz's "unredirect fullscreen" setting lets Compiz get keyboard combos even while using a fullscreen app. I don't have it installed here, so I can't try, but I think I could open an xterm while running Battle for Wesnoth. On Feb 9, 2008 3:17 PM, Evan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Evan
700Mhz, 500Mhz? OK, I cede! Apparently my 10-year old desktop is one of the faster computers around :P It does look like 256MB ram is the lowest you'll see running vanilla Ubuntu though. My setup only takes 50MB on a fresh boot, but I know that vanilla Ubuntu takes around 150MB, so including Miro w

Re: "Make sense" keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor?

2008-02-09 Thread Milan
Cory K. a écrit : > Ubuntu Studio has decided to add a keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor. > > Most windows users see this as a equivalent to Ctrl+Alt+Del. That is of > course already mapped and launches the logout dialog. So we decided to > use the keys KDE uses to launch their monitor. Ctrl+Es

Re: Use SVG icons instead of PNG

2008-02-09 Thread Milan
Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Feb 9, 2008 1:27 PM, Milan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > To sum up, yes, having SVG icons for every app would be good, and > no, it > does not hurt performance. > > > Depends on your system. The calculations for SVG technically

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Evan
Miro starts up with about 35MB of ram, and maxes out around 100MB, but only after downloading and watching a lot of stuff, and browsing many channels. When it starts for the first time, and you point it to any videos you already have on disk, it generates thumbnails for every one. This process is e

disk-manager by default

2008-02-09 Thread Piotr Zaryk
Hi, I noticed the disk-manager is checked as milestone for alpha5. Is there a chance to get it included in Ubuntu? The app is very stable and it's a great idea IMHO. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/disk-manager-by-default -- Regards, Zaryk -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubu

Re: disk-manager by default

2008-02-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 09 February 2008 16:43, Piotr Zaryk wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed the disk-manager is checked as milestone for alpha5. Is there a > chance to get it included in Ubuntu? The app is very stable and it's a > great idea IMHO. > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/disk-manager-by-de

Re: disk-manager by default

2008-02-09 Thread Evan
I haven't a clue when/if it will get included, but I really like the concept. If AutoFsck (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck) gets included, it would be a good place to integrate the options window. On 2/9/08, Piotr Zaryk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I noticed the disk-manager is checked

Re: Use SVG icons instead of PNG

2008-02-09 Thread Ioannis Nousias
Milan wrote: > SVG icons have to be generated and present in the "scalable" subdirs of > your theme, or of the fallback theme ("hicolor"). Most apps already have > SVG icons, maybe some don't install them. > As for the performance side, several PNG icons are generated, one for > each common size so

Re: Use SVG icons instead of PNG

2008-02-09 Thread A. Walton
On Feb 9, 2008 1:53 PM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 9, 2008 1:27 PM, Milan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To sum up, yes, having SVG icons for every app would be good, and no, it > > does not hurt performance. > > > > Depends on your system. The calculations for SVG tech

Re: disk-manager by default

2008-02-09 Thread Sarah Hobbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday 09 February 2008 16:43, Piotr Zaryk wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I noticed the disk-manager is checked as milestone for alpha5. Is there a >> chance to get it included in Ubuntu? The app is very stable and it's a >> great id