Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:55 -0700 "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be >specific). > >In situations of this type (my) logic would dictate that Gutsy would be >updated (gutsy-updates?) with the Final version soon

Re: Easier and more reliable ISO downloads, with error correction

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
John Richard Moser spake thusly on 218814416 :: > OK, I had issues with bittorrent recently. Changing my tune. > Whew! For a moment there you had me thinking you believe BitTorrent was the greatest thing since sliced bread... -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com I've never used an O

GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be specific). In situations of this type (my) logic would dictate that Gutsy would be updated (gutsy-updates?) with the Final version soon after it's release (rather than leave users with an unfinished product in main). As this has

Re: Easier and more reliable ISO downloads, with error correction

2007-11-08 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 06-11-2007 om 22:38 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Caroline Ford: > They don't tell you they block it until you have it installed. Which means they broke the contract, and you don't have to stay with them for a year... -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-deve

Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Evan
While this is not yet a major issue since the majority of users still choose Ubuntu expressly over Windows or Mac (and realize what they're getting into), there are several problems inherent with Ubuntu's growing popularity. One of these is that less technical users may purchase off-the-shelf softw

Re: Easier and more reliable ISO downloads, with error correction

2007-11-08 Thread Phillip Susi
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > The error checking in the TCP/IP layer is usually sufficient, but not > always. The checksum is short enough (32 bits, if I remember correctly) > that errors can creep in. I have had it happen at least once to me. > Unfortunately, the errors are more likely the more you down

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Lots of your ideas have been discussed at the UDS last week. Furthermore you should consider that running Windows apps also opens the door to viruses and worms. Perhaps we could perform a ClamAV scan before running a Windows application? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter

Re: A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-08 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Greg K Nicholson escribió: > Is a compatibility layer (like Wine) to run Mac OS X programs on Linux > feasible? Does one already exist? > > It seems to me, the uneducated layman, that it should be *easier* to > make a Mac compatibility layer (“Mine”?) than one for Windows since: OS > X is Unix-

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Daniel T. Chen
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 19:26 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > As a rule, developers aren't terribly impressed by version numbers. What > problem are you > having that you think this would fix and that is severe enough to warrant a > stable release > update? Really seems like a gutsy-backports c

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Evan
I hadn't considered the malware aspect, but running any program not in the official repos opens that door. Running wine apps may actually be safer since wine never needs root access (the whole win filesystem is contained in the user's home directory). It could still do a lot of damage though, so th

A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-08 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Is a compatibility layer (like Wine) to run Mac OS X programs on Linux feasible? Does one already exist? It seems to me, the uneducated layman, that it should be *easier* to make a Mac compatibility layer (“Mine”?) than one for Windows since: OS X is Unix-like, Darwin is open source (so less re

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Evan escribió: > I hadn't considered the malware aspect, but running any program not in > the official repos opens that door. Running wine apps may actually be > safer since wine never needs root access (the whole win filesystem is > contained in the user's home directory). It could still do a l

Re: A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-08 Thread Emmet Hikory
On 11/9/07, Greg K Nicholson wrote: > Is a compatibility layer (like Wine) to run Mac OS X programs on Linux > feasible? Does one already exist? If you have a powerpc machine, the MacOnLinux (1) virtual layer may be useful for many applications (although using alternate virtual machines may be

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Evan
On Nov 8, 2007 8:45 PM, Nicolas Alvarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Do you consider helping DDoS a website being "a lot of damage"? I do. >Connecting to an IRC server to wait for instructions from the botnet >master and sending requests to a website is something any normal user >can do. Sorry, I w

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 08 November 2007 20:15, Evan wrote: > While this is not yet a major issue since the majority of users still > choose Ubuntu expressly over Windows or Mac (and realize what they're > getting into), there are several problems inherent with Ubuntu's growing > popularity. One of these is th

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Scott Kitterman spake thusly : > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:55 -0700 "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be >> specific). >> >> In situations of this type (my) logic would dictate that Gutsy would be >> updated

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 08 November 2007 22:58, Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > Scott Kitterman spake thusly : > > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:55 -0700 "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be > >> specific). > >> > >>

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Daniel T. Chen spake thusly: > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 19:26 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> As a rule, developers aren't terribly impressed by version numbers. What >> problem are you >> having that you think this would fix and that is severe enough to warrant a >> stable release >> update? >

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2007, 20:58 -0700 schrieb Scott (angrykeyboarder): > > None that would "interest" [some Ubuntu] developers, I suppose You should get used to talk about facts. To support your request you could for example write to the GIMP authors or contact them on IRC and ask if the

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Freitag, den 09.11.2007, 02:24 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Heinlein: > Lots of your ideas have been discussed at the UDS last week. Furthermore > you should consider that running Windows apps also opens the door to > viruses and worms. > > Perhaps we could perform a ClamAV scan before running a Win

Re: A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-08 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Freitag, den 09.11.2007, 11:12 +0900 schrieb Emmet Hikory: > If you have a powerpc machine, the MacOnLinux (1) virtual layer > may be useful for many applications (although using alternate virtual > machines may be as convenient). If you have an x86 machine, there are > a number of virtual

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Emmet Hikory
On 11/9/07, Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > Scott Kitterman spake thusly : > > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:55 -0700 "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" wrote: > >> Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be > >> specific). > >> > >> In situations of this type (my) logic would dictat

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2007, 20:40 -0500 schrieb Evan: > I hadn't considered the malware aspect, but running any program not in > the official repos opens that door. Running wine apps may actually be > safer since wine never needs root access (the whole win filesystem is > contained in the user's

Re: A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-08 Thread Emmet Hikory
On 11/9/07, Sebastian Heinlein wrote: > Am Freitag, den 09.11.2007, 11:12 +0900 schrieb Emmet Hikory: > > If you have a powerpc machine, the MacOnLinux (1) virtual layer > > may be useful for many applications (although using alternate virtual > > machines may be as convenient). If you have an

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Scott Kitterman spake thusly: > > If you want to install software simply because it has a different version > number, you are clearly interested in different things than I am. Indeed. I'm interested in Musical Theatre, Commercial Aviation and R&B Music. How about you? > You are > quite welco

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Sebastian Heinlein spake thusly: > Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2007, 20:58 -0700 schrieb Scott > (angrykeyboarder): >> None that would "interest" [some Ubuntu] developers, I suppose > > You should get used to talk about facts. As I implied previously my internet probably doesn't coincide with th

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Emmet Hikory spake thusly: > On 11/9/07, Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: >> Scott Kitterman spake thusly : >>> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:55 -0700 "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" wrote: Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be specific). In situations of thi

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Christopher Halse Rogers
On 11/9/07, Scott (angrykeyboarder) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > > For some strange reason I'd rather have a final release of a program > rather than a beta or a release candidate. I'm weird like that. > Release candidates (especially later ones) tend to be nearly identical to the actual rele

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Christopher Halse Rogers spake thusly: > On 11/9/07, Scott (angrykeyboarder) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... >> >> For some strange reason I'd rather have a final release of a program >> rather than a beta or a release candidate. I'm weird like that. >> > Release candidates (especially later ones)

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-08 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Evan spake thusly: >less technical users may purchase > off-the-shelf software written for Win/Mac and expect it to run [in Ubuntu]. Surely, you just... -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com I've never used an OS I didn't (dis)like. ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites