RE: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user (was Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29)

2009-02-15 Thread Stefan Hamminga
-Original Message- > hi, > On Do, 2009-02-12 at 14:48 +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > I'd do something like: > > > - iterate /sys, looking for the devices > > - track to their drivers (either by looking at what's loaded, or > >comparing modalias to MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE) > isnt t

Re: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user (was Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29)

2009-02-15 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Do, 2009-02-12 at 14:48 +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > I'd do something like: > > - iterate /sys, looking for the devices > - track to their drivers (either by looking at what's loaded, or >comparing modalias to MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE) isnt that what MODULES=dep in /etc/initramfs.co

Re: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user (was Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29)

2009-02-15 Thread (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo
Olá Scott e a todos. On Thursday 12 February 2009 14:48:11 Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 11:15 +, (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > > Hope I dont start a flame war here, but is there any *easy* way for > > non-devel-but-somewhat-advanced-users to pick the _current_ installe

Re: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user (was Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29)

2009-02-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 11:15 +, (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > On Thursday 12 February 2009 00:17:51 Scott James Remnant wrote: > > This is most likely simply a difference between *your* 2.6.29 config and > > the Ubuntu 2.6.28 one - I expect you compiled in many of the drivers > > your compute

Re: improving compiled modules of kernel - per-user (was Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29)

2009-02-12 Thread (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo
Olá Scott e a todos. On Thursday 12 February 2009 00:17:51 Scott James Remnant wrote: > This is most likely simply a difference between *your* 2.6.29 config and > the Ubuntu 2.6.28 one - I expect you compiled in many of the drivers > your computer needed, and omitted those you didn't Hope I dont

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-12 Thread Andy Rogers
> This is most likely simply a difference between *your* 2.6.29 config and > the Ubuntu 2.6.28 one - I expect you compiled in many of the drivers > your computer needed, and omitted those you didn't > > If you used our config, and just tweaked where necessary, I'd be very > interested to see compar

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Null Ack [2009-02-12 4:06 +1100]: > As do I Scott, but I am careful to distinguish between features and > fixes. I'd like to know if .29 fixes will be backported into Ubuntu's > .28 and how the thing will be managed. They are, and there will be more. E. g. look at 2.6.28-7.18 at https://launchpad

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Wouter Stomp
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Null Ack wrote: > Can I please be advised of why Jaunty will not ship with 2.6.29, and > that the kernel team has elected to ship on .28? > Here is a (short) explanation: http://blog.redvoodoo.org/2009/02/jaunty-kernel-bits.html Pretty much the same as what has

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 18:45 +, Andy Rogers wrote: > I have been using the 2.6.29-RC3 Kernel with Januty and found my bootup > time was approx 5 seconds quicker then 2.6.28 Kernel at the time, and > found no issues at the moment. > This is most likely simply a difference between *your* 2.6.29

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 08:16:16AM EST, Dan Chen wrote: > 2.6.29 brings a newer alsa-kernel bump with a corresponding requisite > userspace alsa-lib bump, which is not quite wise given testing time > constraints. > > The above example is but one thing to consider. While you are always Free to >

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 05:45:10AM EST, Andy Rogers wrote: > What other goods reasons are there that we can throw in the pot and put > pressue on the developers to consider using this Kernel. > > There is still over 2 1/2 months to got approx before Jaunty is officially > released. There may be a

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Dan Chen
2.6.29 brings a newer alsa-kernel bump with a corresponding requisite userspace alsa-lib bump, which is not quite wise given testing time constraints. The above example is but one thing to consider. While you are always Free to use your own kernel, if you do, you should be cognizant of the poten

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:45:10 - (UTC) "Andy Rogers" wrote: >>I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not >enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. > > >Hi All > >Iam new to this kind of discussion thing, only been using Ubuntu for >around 9 months and loving

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 18:45 +, Andy Rogers wrote: > >I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not > enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. > > > Hi All > > Iam new to this kind of discussion thing, only been using Ubuntu for > around 9 months and loving it

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Andy Rogers
>I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. Hi All Iam new to this kind of discussion thing, only been using Ubuntu for around 9 months and loving it. Not really looked back, and only using Windows for odd things every

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:04:30 +0100 Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: >>>I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not >>>enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. >> >> If that's the case, I applaud the kernel team's decision to be less forward >> leaning this time arounf.

RE: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 04:06 +1100, Null Ack wrote: > As do I Scott, but I am careful to distinguish between features and > fixes. I'd like to know if .29 fixes will be backported into Ubuntu's > .28 and how the thing will be managed. It is standard practice for the kernel team to cherry-pick patch

RE: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Null Ack
As do I Scott, but I am careful to distinguish between features and fixes. I'd like to know if .29 fixes will be backported into Ubuntu's .28 and how the thing will be managed. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://l

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
>>I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not >>enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. > > If that's the case, I applaud the kernel team's decision to be less forward > leaning this time arounf. Sorry, I don't understand you. What I said was only a theory, I do

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:43:35 +0100 Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: >2009/2/11 Null Ack >> >> Can I please be advised of why Jaunty will not ship with 2.6.29, and >> that the kernel team has elected to ship on .28? > >I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not >enough time to

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
2009/2/11 Null Ack > > Can I please be advised of why Jaunty will not ship with 2.6.29, and > that the kernel team has elected to ship on .28? I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing

Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Null Ack
Can I please be advised of why Jaunty will not ship with 2.6.29, and that the kernel team has elected to ship on .28? I'm sure the kernel team are aware of the many driver changes in .29, but I'm not clear if they they propose to backport those into .28? What about features? Or any patches that fo