m I want.
Regards,
Tony
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From: Stephan Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider
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On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 10:40:42AM +
Olá Scott e a todos.
On Saturday 02 August 2008 19:22:01 Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Did you look at ebox? It's meant to be our safer equivalent.
>
> Scott K
Last time I look into it, i couldnt start it. I'll give it a try under Intrepid.
By the way, I didnt see any module for apache, postfix and
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 10:40:42AM +0800, John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Because as he said, if you pre-configure everything to
> > super-duper-easy-peasy, you've also pre-configured it to
> > super-duper-easy-peasy-to-cr
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because as he said, if you pre-configure everything to
> super-duper-easy-peasy, you've also pre-configured it to
> super-duper-easy-peasy-to-crack. I'm personally disappointed by
> firewalls that allow outbound by defau
On Saturday 02 August 2008 12:29, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:
> Olá Anthony e a todos.
>
> On Thursday 31 July 2008 02:14:06 Anthony Watters wrote:
> > Preconfigure the thing, give it a GUI web admin, make it easy for someone
> > to set up a Web server/Webmail/File server either in server only mod
Olá Stephan e a todos.
On Friday 01 August 2008 16:25:01 Stephan Hermann wrote:
> Fact One: an ISP who allows people running smtp servers should be
> punished. Private users should use an SMTP Gateway at their ISP or on
> some root server, but shouldn't be able to send via smtp server <->
> smtp s
Olá Anthony e a todos.
On Thursday 31 July 2008 02:14:06 Anthony Watters wrote:
> Preconfigure the thing, give it a GUI web admin, make it easy for someone to
> set up a Web server/Webmail/File server either in server only mode or server
> and gateway mode. All I should need to set up is a coupl
Folks,
I've decided that I'll be using either the ClarkConnect
(http://clarkconnect.com) which is Red Hat RHEL/Cent OS based or SME Server
(www.smeserver.org) with PHP fired up. People on www.whirlpool.net.au report
good experiences with both of these offerings. Both come preconfigured and hav
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 03:51:35PM +0800, John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Stephan Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Serious, for a normal familiy I would advise to by ready made
> >appliances..they are tested, and are usable (well not everytime, but
>
> If a secur
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Stephan Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Serious, for a normal familiy I would advise to by ready made
>appliances..they are tested, and are usable (well not everytime, but
If a security flaw is found in such an appliance it would be much
harder to patch than on
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:23 -0700, George Farris wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 10:18 -0500, Tony Yarusso wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Watters
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly
> > > existing
> > > Ubuntu
Hi,
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:04:14 +0200
Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Stephan Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > But what do you (not you in particular) want to do at home?
> >
> > Setting up a webserver is easy...and adding a drupal or blog
> > software,
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Stephan Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But what do you (not you in particular) want to do at home?
>
> Setting up a webserver is easy...and adding a drupal or blog software,
> too. The default apache2 package from debian/ubuntu gives you most of
> the needed se
n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
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> Subject: Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a
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>
> Hi,
>
> I don't want to comment this mail in particu
The server is more difficult to define as a single "thing" than the
desktop. We've taken the view that the best service we can provide to
the free software community is to ensure that Ubuntu's server offering
is highly modular, so you can start with something minimalist (the out
of the box ex
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:24:59 +0200 Michael Zoet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Ok. Does the server team has a use for a console admin who sometimes
>uses the already available GUIs and who likes to disagree a lot with
>all this "server administration has to be easy" stuff? ;-) Than I am
>willing to
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From: Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Anthony Watters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 4:39:06 PM
Subject: Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider
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The server is more diffic
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Hi all,
I think this is my first post on this list so I make a little
introduction of myself:
I'm a SysAdmin for more than 10 years. Worked in different networks
with all sorts of OSs ( SunOS, Irix, FreeBSD, NetbSD, OpenBSD, Linux
(most popular Distr
nn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 2:32:00 PM
Subject: Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider
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Hi,
I don't want to comment this mail in particular, but regarding the
difference of SysAdmins and H
Hi,
I don't want to comment this mail in particular, but regarding the
difference of SysAdmins and HomeAdmins: There is a difference of people
who are used to "graphical configuration stuff which hides a lot of
important things which are important to real sysadmins".
IMHO the usecase for Ubuntu S
day, August 1, 2008 6:59:48 AM
Subject: Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider
audience
Scott Kitterman, on Thu Jul 31 17:38:30 BST 2008
> Generally you can do any server things from a desktop if you install the
> needed things. For easy Apache configurations there
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:38:53 -0700 Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>This thread pokes quite nicely at the idea of an Ubuntu home server
>metapackage to complement the rest of the desktop. I think this could be
>a very edgy move if approached correctly.
>
>First of all, I am amongst those
This thread pokes quite nicely at the idea of an Ubuntu home server
metapackage to complement the rest of the desktop. I think this could be
a very edgy move if approached correctly.
First of all, I am amongst those who think this should have nothing to
do with Ubuntu Server.
Now that's out of
On Thursday 31 July 2008 18:59, tacone wrote:
> Scott Kitterman, on Thu Jul 31 17:38:30 BST 2008
>
> > Generally you can do any server things from a desktop if you install the
> > needed things. For easy Apache configurations there is:
> >
> > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rapache
> >
> > T
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Subject: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider audience
Folks,
As a newbie to Ubuntu I have to say it is hard to believe that Ubuntu Desktop
and Ubuntu Server come from the same stable.
The Ubuntu
Scott Kitterman, on Thu Jul 31 17:38:30 BST 2008
> Generally you can do any server things from a desktop if you install the
> needed things. For easy Apache configurations there is:
>
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rapache
>
> There's a pending request to have it backported to Hardy.
>
>
Excuse me for changing the subject. I know that's "bad netiquette", but
the old title was too negative. You've identified a need for a new
product, not a shortcoming in Ubuntu Server. Ubuntu Server is a great
server base for installing Apache, postfix, etc. It is not web- or
GUI-based and many
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 18:09 +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote:
> George Farris wrote:
> > Lets start again. Yes, contrary to popular "geek" culture, there are
> > people that would like to:
> >
> > A) Install a home server from CD
> > B) Login and be presented with a list of options for configuring that
George Farris wrote:
> Lets start again. Yes, contrary to popular "geek" culture, there are
> people that would like to:
>
> A) Install a home server from CD
> B) Login and be presented with a list of options for configuring that
> server
> C) Not have to understand how to run the server at the "
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 06:14:06PM -0700, Anthony Watters wrote:
> The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly existing
> Ubuntu server, and, more importantly to the masses, a friendly pre-configured
> Ubuntu server that uses SME Server (http://smeserver.com) and ClarkConnec
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 12:38 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > This is not about running an enterprise/business server which I agree
> > should be understood at a deeper level. It is about giving home users a
> > simple, nice way to get some functionality from Ubuntu.
>
> Generally you can do any
On Thursday 31 July 2008 12:23, George Farris wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 10:18 -0500, Tony Yarusso wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Watters
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly
> > > existing Ubuntu serve
George Farris escreveu:
>
> Wow, this response seems to completely missed the entire point.
>
> Lets start again. Yes, contrary to popular "geek" culture, there are
> people that would like to:
>
> A) Install a home server from CD
> B) Login and be presented with a list of options for configur
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 10:18 -0500, Tony Yarusso wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Watters
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly existing
> > Ubuntu server, and, more importantly to the masses, a friendly
> > pre-configur
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Tony Yarusso wrote on 31/07/08 16:18:
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> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Watters
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly
>> existing Ubuntu server, and, more importantly to the
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Watters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly existing
> Ubuntu server, and, more importantly to the masses, a friendly
> pre-configured Ubuntu server that uses SME Server (http://smeserver.com) and
Hello,
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the same sentiments. How does a normal computer user set up a
> web server, music server, file server, or a mail server with the
> current Ubuntu? I think Ubuntu server should come with an X11-based
> configuration
I have the same sentiments. How does a normal computer user set up a
web server, music server, file server, or a mail server with the
current Ubuntu? I think Ubuntu server should come with an X11-based
configuration GUI (and a comparable Web GUI) that lets you configure
these things in a few clicks
Folks,
As a newbie to Ubuntu I have to say it is hard to believe that Ubuntu Desktop
and Ubuntu Server come from the same stable.
The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly existing
Ubuntu server, and, more importantly to the masses, a friendly pre-configured
Ubuntu se
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