On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:23 -0700, George Farris wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 10:18 -0500, Tony Yarusso wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Watters > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly > > > existing > > > Ubuntu server, and, more importantly to the masses, a friendly > > > pre-configured Ubuntu server that uses SME Server (http://smeserver.com) > > > and > > > ClarkConnect (http://clarkconnect.com) as a starting point only not > > > crippled, and much better. > > > > a) It's not unfriendly to those who run servers and know how these > > things are supposed to work. > > b) Servers absolutely should not come pre-configured, as that would > > mean that they were full of bloat and unnecessary applications (along > > with the security risks of having too many ports open), and would > > likely not be correctly configured for anyone. > > c) I don't know what SME Server even is, since they don't have a > > functional web site. Why would I trust anything like that? > > d) ClarkConnect looks largely like what I mentioned in b) - > > installing everything by default so you have as much bloat and open > > entry points as possible, something no server admin would touch with a > > 20-foot pole. > > > > Wow, this response seems to completely missed the entire point. > > Lets start again. Yes, contrary to popular "geek" culture, there are > people that would like to: > > A) Install a home server from CD > B) Login and be presented with a list of options for configuring that > server > C) Not have to understand how to run the server at the "guts" level.
You forgot: D) Want to be cracked within a week Because as he said, if you pre-configure everything to super-duper-easy-peasy, you've also pre-configured it to super-duper-easy-peasy-to-crack. I'm personally disappointed by firewalls that allow outbound by default, because something could phone home if I put my trust in an application I shouldn't, but they're easy-peasy for users, so that's what people do. I can manually go through and fix it myself, but if some application is running about opening who knows how many ports and setting god-knows-what services to auto-start and mucking about with insecure options in config files...how many months is it going to take me to track all of that down? No way. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo
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