Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-05-03 Thread John Rowland Lenton
As a way to continue and wrap up this discussion I've created a blueprint, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+spec/foundations-o-agile-networked-clients I need to fill it out still, but thought you all might want to know earlier than when I find time to do that. pgpaZxrceHRo0.p

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-29 Thread Jan Claeys
Scott Kitterman schreef op di 26-04-2011 om 14:14 [-0400]: > Jan Claeys wrote: > >John Rowland Lenton schreef op do 21-04-2011 om 18:23 [+0100]: > >> * recently we had to upgrade couchdb in lucid for replication to work, > >> and the upgrade broke replication with the old version (which was the

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/26/2011 11:53 AM, James Westby wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:23:52 +0100, John Rowland Lenton > wrote: >> * if our projects switch to, say, python 4, then we'd be looking at >> shipping python 4 to all supported ubuntus, including LTS'es. > > I can see why you would want to do this for

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:23:52 +0100, John Rowland Lenton wrote: > * if our projects switch to, say, python 4, then we'd be looking at > shipping python 4 to all supported ubuntus, including LTS'es. I can see why you would want to do this for ease of support, but it's common for projects to supp

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 20:09 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > John Rowland Lenton schreef op do 21-04-2011 om 18:23 [+0100]: > > * recently we had to upgrade couchdb in lucid for replication to work, > > and the upgrade broke replication with the old version (which was the > > reason we needed to upgr

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jan Claeys wrote: >John Rowland Lenton schreef op do 21-04-2011 om 18:23 [+0100]: >> * recently we had to upgrade couchdb in lucid for replication to >work, >> and the upgrade broke replication with the old version (which was >the >> reason we needed to upgrade), as well as potentially breaki

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Jan Claeys
John Rowland Lenton schreef op do 21-04-2011 om 18:23 [+0100]: > * recently we had to upgrade couchdb in lucid for replication to work, > and the upgrade broke replication with the old version (which was the > reason we needed to upgrade), as well as potentially breaking couch > apps that onl

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 16:32 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > On 21 April 2011 16:14, Allison Randal wrote: > > - Only ship a very small shim for the client on the CD (advantage of > > small footprint), and do the rest of the install the first time someone > > uses Ubuntu One. > > > > This is what dropbo

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-25 Thread Nick Pavlica
Allison, On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Allison Randal wrote: > The Ubuntu One developers have an interesting technical conundrum that > would benefit greatly from all of your thoughts. They've started > collecting ideas, and would like to collect more, and hopefully settle > down on a plan for

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 21, 2011 01:23:52 PM John Rowland Lenton wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Go through the tech board (as Landscape did) and show your QA/updating > > process is sufficiently robust to be able to ship needed feature updates > > in *-updates.

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread John Rowland Lenton
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Go through the tech board (as Landscape did) and show your QA/updating > process > is sufficiently robust to be able to ship needed feature updates in > *-updates. > While this doesn't scale well and doesn't work at all for clie

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Allison Randal's message of Thu Apr 21 08:14:17 -0700 2011: > - Ship Ubuntu One client (only) in a PPA. Having a micro-release exception per ScottK's suggestion is better than this, because then you don't have to have the user go through the step of adding the PPA. Given the capabili

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread Alan Pope
On 21 April 2011 16:14, Allison Randal wrote: > - Only ship a very small shim for the client on the CD (advantage of > small footprint), and do the rest of the install the first time someone > uses Ubuntu One. > This is what dropbox does albeit a download and not on CD, and it seems to work nicel

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:14:17 AM Allison Randal wrote: > The Ubuntu One developers have an interesting technical conundrum that > would benefit greatly from all of your thoughts. They've started > collecting ideas, and would like to collect more, and hopefully settle > down on a plan for the

[Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread Allison Randal
The Ubuntu One developers have an interesting technical conundrum that would benefit greatly from all of your thoughts. They've started collecting ideas, and would like to collect more, and hopefully settle down on a plan for the next cycle in a UDS session. The basic problem is in keeping a netw