Hi folks,
I just wanna say goodbye.
I will stop (trying to) contribute to open source.
No more wiki writing, no more patches, no more bug reports.
No more (eventually) trying to get packages into distributions.
For me a sudden turn of events but I have had it with the treatment you
generally
brendanperr...@gmail.com schreef op 05-02-2018 18:52:
Yes people should back up their data anyway. Implementing this would be
quite complicated it seems to me.
I realize that e.g. OpenSUSE has a DVD-based upgrade mechanism but at
the same time they don't have different 'flavours'.
Even if y
Bryan Quigley schreef op 02-02-2018 17:55:
Stability means: no changes in functionality.
Ah, this is the key point of my proposal. Stability for my purposes
means predictability when changes in functionality will occur.
I understand, I was just meaning to say that there is no culture or
p
Βασίλης Κατσαρέλιας schreef op 02-02-2018 17:08:
Anyway, I just want Ubiquity to feature a cross-distribution
upgrade/transfer feature. (e.g. upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to Lubuntu
16.04, upgrade from Kubuntu 16.04 to Xubuntu 17.10)
Honestly this is more a place for an on-system upgrade mechani
Oh Ralf,
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 28-11-2017 19:22:
I'm not a developer, however, consider to explain what makes you think
that this is an Ubuntu related bug.
On 28th of November this user reported this bug to this list. It had
already been reported a few days prior.
On 29th of November I q
Martin Pitt schreef op 21-07-2016 7:09:
FWIW, this is the *only* reply to this thread that I will ever do. I'm
too busy following my secret agenda to reply to the other mails...
BTW, Martin.
https://piware.de/2016/12/last-day-at-canonical/
I knew you were ;-).
So Martin responded
Oorspronkelijke bericht
Onderwerp: Re: Speed vs Memory [was: On Lists and Iterables]
Datum: 17-12-2017 12:28
Afzender: Xen
Ontvanger: Neal McBurnett
Just to summarize this.
Xen schreef op 17-12-2017 12:22:
Meanwhile Python 3.4 can be excessively slower than 2.7. SO
Neal McBurnett schreef op 16-12-2017 18:16:
Though, as John Lenton notes, there are excellent reasons for most of
the changes in Python 3
By the way, all of these "excellent reasons" are disputed.
And citing "authorative sources" does not make them any less disputed,
or any more "proven".
Neal McBurnett schreef op 16-12-2017 18:16:
For example here I port your one-line Python 2 script that uses zip.
$ cat porting_example.py
print zip(["a","b"], ["c","d"])
$ python porting_example.py
[('a', 'c'), ('b', 'd')]
$ 2to3 porting_example.py > porting_example.patch
$ cat porting_examp
Jonathon Fernyhough schreef op 16-12-2017 16:29:
I've only been vaguely following this thread as it doesn't appear to be
related to Ubuntu Development, but it seems to me you're annoyed that
you started learning Python2 before finding out that it is being
replaced by Python3.
No, I don't like
John Lenton schreef op 15-12-2017 13:02:
On 15 December 2017 at 10:40, Xen wrote:
Zipping by definition produces a list of tuples
No it's not
I was talking about the semantical definition, not implementation
details.
That's how it was defined in python 2, yes. The definiti
I am just posting this so I don't have to save the text.
2.7: type(zip(["a","b"], ["c","d"]))
3 : type(zip(["a","b"], ["c","d"]))
3 : zip(["a","b"], ["c","d"])
2.7: zip(["a","b"], ["c","d"])
[('a', 'c'), ('b', 'd')]
3 : list(zip(["a","b"], ["c","d"]))
[('a', 'c
Daniel Watkins schreef op 15-12-2017 0:05:
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:45:23PM +0100, Xen wrote:
The move towards Python 3 was forced, it didn't come natural for
anyone.
Nope, I have preferred Python 3 since ~3.3, and the transition has
happened over _more than a decade_.
So you waited
Colin Watson schreef op 09-12-2017 13:51:
On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 12:47:28PM +0100, Xen wrote:
Colin Watson schreef op 09-12-2017 0:24:
> there are good reasons behind many of the changes in Python 3
You know, an appeal to "good reasons" is really a blanket statement
that
betray
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 09-12-2017 15:18:
See
https://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2017-December/036974.html
The author "learned to be very selective" when he chose FLOSS software.
That basically supports the notion that it is unwise to depend on
anything because those you
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 09-12-2017 22:17:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:31:12 +0100, Xen wrote:
I think Kohlhaas was actually pretty sympathetic ;-).
Indeed, but don't confuse the way of Kohlhaas, with the way of the
worrier, as described by the Hagakure,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hag
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 09-12-2017 9:19:
PS: Don't get me wrong Xen, I get your point and without doubts you are
"Kohlhaas", as I'm, too.
I am pretty sure that if the upstream devs would have taken a more
considerate approach, businesses would actually have been willi
Colin Watson schreef op 09-12-2017 0:24:
there are good reasons behind many of the changes in Python 3
You know, an appeal to "good reasons" is really a blanket statement that
betrays the absence of any good reasons.
So you go on to detail the similarities with C but with C there never
was
Robie Basak schreef op 08-12-2017 22:22:
Because Python 2 will be unsupported upstream and we don't have an
unlimited amount of resources to maintain it in Ubuntu without
upstream.
The more time we spend on maintaining duplicate stuff in the archive,
the less time we have to spend on other thi
Python upstream announced the EOL of Python2 for 2020
https://pythonclock.org/
It is unlikely that the demotion of Python2 will be possible for the
18.04 LTS
release, but please work on the issues so that we are ready for the
demotion
once OpenStack is using Python3.
Personally I don't kn
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 29-11-2017 6:15:
3. Google also might help to report the bug to those responsible for
it. Maybe Ubuntu isn't the culprit.
The point that I'm trying to make is that even if it is simply a kernel
issue not specific to Ubuntu, to the user Ubuntu is Ubuntu.
Also if these
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 29-11-2017 6:15:
1. Before I bought my new mobo, I ensured that it doesn't force me to
use U/EFI/secure boot, to avoid all the known issues.
Can you tell me how Windows... I could look it up, but I have used.. or
maybe I haven't... All I' m saying is that I am running
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 28-11-2017 19:22:
There are far more known issues, Google is your friend. I doubt that
you will find a lot, if any known issues caused by Linux distribution,
but there are a vast number of known issues, that are not caused by
Linux distros.
Doesn't help the person now d
I see the EFI fun has begun.
Not predictable at all of course.
Tobia schreef op 28-11-2017 12:06:
UBUNTU 17.10 CORRUPTING BIOS - MANY LENOVO LAPTOPS MODELS - BUG
#1734147
All of us affected cannot use their PCs anymore.
Best regards,
Tobia Antoniolli
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Shawn Landden schreef op 17-11-2017 8:55:
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Xen wrote:
Julian Andres Klode schreef op 14-11-2017 8:50:
* You should not depend on grep, sed, coreutils, they are Essential.
Can I ask what this means?
I actually assume that these dependencies are not *required
Julian Andres Klode schreef op 14-11-2017 8:50:
* You should not depend on grep, sed, coreutils, they are Essential.
Can I ask what this means?
I actually assume that these dependencies are not *required*, not that
you can't use the tools.
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Vittorio schreef op 05-11-2017 21:20:
6) and then.. telling users that, if they don't cope with the bugs,
they
can obviously fix them by themselves.
They are just being reasonable.
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Jesse Steele schreef op 23-10-2017 12:00:
GET OUT OF DESKTOP. Stop dividing developer attention.
Unity was great for netbooks and small screen (or small resolution)
computers.
"Ubuntu" proper should ONLY be "server". Don't pick winners.
Dear Mark Shuttleworth, your awesomeness is in "se
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 15-10-2017 10:26:
However, if 'clear' should be too much to type when writing a scrip,
there are better workarounds regarding script portability, than using
an alias for 'clear' ;).
I like typing a command.
Fits in with the rhythm.
FWIW using an alias such as 'll' wh
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 15-10-2017 6:22:
Hi,
On 14 Oct 2017, at 15:52, 蔡瑋倫 wrote:
1. From the perspective of keyboard typing, "cls" is much easier to
type than "clear."
what is speaking against using Ctrl+L ?
Does the existence of Ctrl+L speak against the existence of the "clear"
comman
Jaime de Paula schreef op 27-09-2017 21:04:
Hi there! My name is Jaime de Paula and I write from Brazil. I'm using
Ubuntu 16.04 and have a GeForce 7025/ nForce 630a NVIDIA video card
motherboard integrated. When I use Ubuntu with the Unity window manager
and the NVIDIA legacy binary driver - v
Robie Basak schreef op 18-09-2017 0:40:
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:32:26AM +0200, Göran Hasse wrote:
They must have "forgot it".
In that case, in the first instance upstream should be contacted
directly with this report. Then the problem can be fixed for everyone
without risking confusion to U
Göran Hasse schreef op 18-09-2017 0:32:
They must have "forgot it".
An openvpn client service have the same importance as the login
program.
So it should be restarted (with some backoff strategy maybe).
A system service of this importance should *always* be restarted after
a krash! We had to
Because the default setup seems to be that the user needs to man the
post and try again manually.
The above directive changes it to automatically, which is only
reasonable for a Linux system.
Regards, Xen.
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Siddharth-Jean Baburaj schreef op 05-08-2017 22:06:
Dear Ubuntu team,
My name is Siddharth-Jean Baburaj and I have created two recordings
through my mobile of two new Ubuntu Startup and Shutdown sounds.
They are way too robotic and ghastly.
But don't mind my opinion. But I mean, I would nev
Jesse Steele schreef op 06-08-2017 19:29:
My father told me as a kid, "I can't make enough rules." That's how I
feel about which BIOS settings need changing on each 64 bit machine I
encounter.
I would suggest that's bad parenting ;-).
I appreciated the GUI Ubuntu installer using a one-time p
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 23-07-2017 14:04:
Btw. sometimes I want tabs and sometimes I want individual windows.
IMO it's strange to provide multiple desktop workspaces, but making it
hard to chose between a new tab or a new window for some apps.
Yeah, I have no immediate issue with tabs and I do
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 22-07-2017 19:24:
It kills all three windows of xed, but just one of the three windows of
xfw.
Aye, thank you for that.
Xfw is the window in the lower right here, right?:
http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/images/screenshot-s1.png
Doesn't look so bad, and at least it is a n
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 22-07-2017 17:23:
On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 11:26:56 +0200, Xen wrote:
Linux does not have a good single-window (no tabs) text editor.
Perhaps xfw is "good" for your purpose?
I did not write my message to get attention for the only purpose of
exposing my perso
Robie Basak schreef op 22-07-2017 10:56:
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:42:45AM +0200, Frans van Berckel wrote:
So i think i am gonna reinstall the libgtkmm-2.4-1v5 just to find out
what goes wrong. The question is still, how is the Happened?
Difficult to know. But I've not seen this kind of thing
Robie Basak schreef op 22-07-2017 10:59:
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:40:47AM +0200, Xen wrote:
Robie, can you open SVG files in the default install of Inkscape?
Yes. I opened one yesterday. Or is there some specific GUI method of
opening an SVG that you want me to confirm is working?
No, in
Dustin Kirkland schreef op 21-07-2017 17:26:
You're welcome to engage in discussion here, or in any one of the
following venues where we've cross posted this request, in the
interest of the broadest possible engagement with the Ubuntu community
at large:
The only things I would personally insi
Robie Basak schreef op 22-07-2017 9:43:
Running inkscape from the command line just works.
Have you confirmed that this isn't a misconfiguration or corruption on
your system?
Robie, can you open SVG files in the default install of Inkscape?
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freddy walde schreef op 12-07-2017 10:21:
Hi.I am a user of Ubuntu studio and I use it mainly to edit time lapse
photos as a hobby. My query is if you can make a cluster between my
laptop and pc to improve the speed of rendering, the idea is for the
eagerness to decrease the time, put a solid
Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre schreef op 21-06-2017 2:58:
Hi,
Since Friday, netplan is now the default in artful. It is now included
in the minimal seed, and thus part of all installs by default (if you
find it missing, it's a bug I encourage you to report and let me know).
It's a direct replacement f
Xen schreef op 13-05-2017 14:07:
--- /etc/init.d/libnss-ldap.old 2017-05-13 15:03:05.867280470 +0200
+++ /etc/init.d/libnss-ldap 2017-05-13 14:51:05.326809059 +0200
@@ -6,4 +6,4 @@
# Required-Stop: mountall.sh
-# Default-Start:
-# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
+# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
I wrote here earlier apparently about libnss-ldap needing a systemd
service file or at least not installing its service that it uses to add
system groups to an ignore list so nsswitch won't try to get them from
LDAP.
Upon installation of this service on a Kubuntu 16.04 system
/usr/lib/insserv
Xen schreef op 13-05-2017 12:22:
I thought earlier that this would be some error with update-rc.d.
I am sorry. Here is a rundown of the issue.
The postinst script for libnss-ldap calls invoke-rc.d start which would
normally take care of part of the issue.
However the "local script p
Forgot to say, for completeness:
Yes any PV with a single VG with a single LV will do.
Or conversely any VG with a single PV with a single LV will do.
1. Any type of LVM setup is probably going to be fine.
2. DD the entire disk including partitions including LVM partition (PV)
is going to b
Robie Basak schreef op 23-01-2017 12:58:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:42:37PM +0100, Xen wrote:
Perhaps you could say the intent of my message is to urge a newer
version
for 16.04 as well, but that is up to you. I just wanted to state the
issues
here.
This won't happen unless so
Gave you the wrong reference.
"https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2017-January/msg00013.html";
Is the right one.
I wrote
"It immediately replaced the good PV with the bad PV (that I was trying
to change) so I cannot actually get to the "bad" PV (which is duplicate)
to change it withou
Robie Basak schreef op 23-01-2017 12:05:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:02:11AM +0100, Xen wrote:
The version of LVM that ships with 16.04 cannot handle duplicate
UUIDs.
If you so much as DD a disk to another drive and run a single LVM
command,
your running system will be ruined.
Is there a
I just want to write a small note on the topic of LVM data safety.
The version of LVM that ships with 16.04 cannot handle duplicate UUIDs.
If you so much as DD a disk to another drive and run a single LVM
command, your running system will be ruined.
Chances are high LVM will prefer the new ba
Louis Bouchard schreef op 18-01-2017 9:08:
Hello,
Le 17/01/2017 à 21:46, Bryan Quigley a écrit :
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Jamie Strandboge
wrote:
...
> There are two things here:
> 1. make systemd journal persistent
> 2. avoid duplicate logs from rsyslog
>
> Why not just do '1' and
Cadence schreef op 14-01-2017 7:06:
Hi,
The latest version of lighttpd available for xenial is 1.4.35 from
April 2016. There were lots of new lighttpd versions since then. Most
notably for me, 1.4.42 introduced mod_authn_mysql authentication. When
will this version be available for ubuntu xenial
Jamie Strandboge schreef op 12-01-2017 17:20:
Why not just do '1' and let rsyslog remain? The standard logs are
rotated so
this shouldn't be overly burdensome. Have you measured how much the
duplicate
logs would take on a typical system?
Personally I think the suggestion to remove rsyslog is
Bryan Quigley schreef op 12-01-2017 16:50:
We could explicitly keep rsyslog supported in main for at least 18.04
for the for those who need it (or indefinitely if we find it's still
needed for remote enterprise logging). I was thinking that we might
have to keep it in main until 18.04 anyway fo
JMZ schreef op 06-12-2016 18:14:
On 12/06/2016 10:21 AM, Jesse Steele wrote:
As I understand, current Ubuntu users are sophisticated types like
super-geeks, engineers, and professors. They probably provide most
input for Ubuntu's knowledge base, but there is no reason Ubuntu can't
work for n
Jarno Suni schreef op 01-12-2016 6:51:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:30 AM, Xen
wrote:
> Jarno Suni schreef op 29-11-2016 20:11:
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:44 PM, Jarno Suni
wrote:
"debline" form that add-apt-repository supports, and URL form
that
add-a
Jarno Suni schreef op 30-11-2016 9:57:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:30 AM, Xen
wrote:
> Jarno Suni schreef op 29-11-2016 20:11:
If removing Ubuntu components such as 'multiverse' or
'backports' is
supposed to be supported, some user interface changes are
i
Jarno Suni schreef op 29-11-2016 20:11:
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:44 PM, Jarno Suni
wrote:
"debline" form that add-apt-repository supports, and URL form that
add-apt-repository supports, too, but that is undocumented, are not
currently
supported by ppa-purge.
If removing Ubuntu co
John Lenton schreef op 21-11-2016 16:11:
On 21 November 2016 at 13:55, Xen wrote:
Not to mention that 4.4 doesn't support 900 nVidia GPUs which have
been out
for like 2 years.
As a happy user of a GTX 970 on xenial's 4.4, I'm puzzled by your
assertion.
Then I suggest y
Sam Van den Eynde schreef op 10-11-2016 13:54:
Hi,
I'm aware of the manual possibilities to install it myself, but is
anybody aware of an expected timeframe for the Yakkety 4.8 kernel to
become available in the Xenial repositories?
The main reason is to get a new version of zfs, since it includ
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 15-10-2016 17:22:
"Cryptic Shell Commands
There are various cryptic shell incantations floating around help sites
and search engines that promise to remove older kernels. Copy-and-paste
mysterious incantations into your system at your own risk."
should read
"Shell comm
amon schreef op 14-10-2016 18:11:
I am not going to continue with this other than to correct
some really strange assumptions.
First, I was probably using Unix when the person who claims
I must be amongst those who do not basics was still in nappies.
Second, none of those suggestions will find y
Oliver Grawert schreef op 14-10-2016 12:06:
hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 13.10.2016, 18:31 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:42:29 +0200, Xen wrote:
>
> Can you please come out of your psychosis now?
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:49:24 +0200, Xen wrote:.
>
>
> Please quit
Ralf, maybe you should stop telling other people what they should do.
Just saying. That no one needs your advice on what to do, no one is
asking for it. You don't determine what people are free to do and what
not, and you are no moderator here.
You are producing a whole lot of noise giving se
Again, I don't need help on using my system, but thank you for your
cooperation in not pestering me with it endlessly ok?
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 12-10-2016 20:09:
FWIW if a developer has got a user question or does notice a bug, even
a
developer is well-advised to use the appropriate forum.
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 11-10-2016 21:16:
"These are all practically unused options."
And they are. I have never come across a single file that had the
immutable bit set or I would have found out.
If the graphical tools don't support it it won't be much use unless
automated system installs
amon schreef op 12-10-2016 4:37:
The problem is that in my desktop I end up with a race. The
desktop detects the new device and ignores cryptab and fstab
and asks if I want to mount or whatever. I have to give it a NO
and then go to a root shell and execute a manual cryptdisk_start
and mount (or
Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 22:36:
Absolutely. I'd switch on the update thingy for them to click OK for
their systems to be updated.
Here is a quick baffling picture on the topic of automatic updates.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CugYubMXEAALJ20.jpg:large
This guy spent 11 hours getting his W
Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 22:36:
What I mean by maintain is make sure that updates are installed, just
like on Windows and macOS.
Aye. To me it is a detriment. I used to turn Windows Update off
completely for years while I was running XP and 7.
For me the incessant updates are only a dist
Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 16:52:
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Xen wrote:
That's not really true. The vast majority of people would go screaming
for a Windows or Mac PC if they had Linux preinstalled.
The level of system maintenance I would have to give to my family for
a Linux b
JMZ schreef op 10-10-2016 11:58:
The vast majority of consumer boxes run Windows because of
Microsoft's bundling deal with the manufacturers. It's nothing really
to do with Windows performance or ease of use (both of which are
poor). It's just that Mr./Ms. Everyday User doesn't really know muc
amon schreef op 10-10-2016 15:53:
Since the topic seems to be mounting of devices from user space...
1) You can use sshfs to mount pretty much any directory,
anywhere to which you have password access on any mount
point for which you have privs. I used to use it a lot.
Works great.
I
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:43:
On 09/10/16 20:35, Xen wrote:
Personally I think SystemD is lower level and in that sense more
dependable and more broad...ly available. It might not do the same
things but... at least it is something both parties could use.
Well, I would love a
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:37:
On 09/10/16 20:17, Daniel Llewellyn wrote:
On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote: As a feature request that you could
try to get implemented by the gnome guys you could suggest to their
issue-tracker that gvfs support KIO-slaves. Also would be worth
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:17:
On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote:
I am pretty sure that any application that does not support GVFS
will not see those mounts so easily. You will have to symlink them
and that defeats the purpose of the system in a certain sense.
There is no default
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 09-10-2016 20:12:
Hi,
this time I read your complete mail, I just didn't watch the video.
A very last reply from me.
If you notice, that low level software requires improvement, you could
assume that this isn't something Ubuntu developers could change. A
feature request
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:39:
OK, I'll bite..
On 09/10/16 18:26, Xen wrote:
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:07: These are not
consistently mounted, is what I was talking about. You will have to
go to that mount point (browse to that network share) every tim
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:07:
On 09/10/16 17:32, Xen wrote:
The same is true with mounting samba shares, it is not possible
with any degree of ease, today. Of course, I want to work on it,
but I can't do everything alone, or at the same time.
I'll just leave this
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 16:48:
On 9 October 2016 at 15:43, Xen wrote:
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 14:38:
On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen wrote:
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28:
...
I was not commenting on any particular topic, merely pointing out
that
that Ralf (I
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 09-10-2016 15:05:
I didn't read all your trolling,
If you are going to call other people trolls for having different
opinions, do you then still expect your own opinions to be respected by
those people, or by other people in general?
however, what I already read is
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 14:38:
On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen wrote:
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28:
...
I was not commenting on any particular topic, merely pointing out
that
that Ralf (I think) said there are some things that Linux "does not
allow" and you ans
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28:
On 8 October 2016 at 23:58, Xen wrote:
Colin Law schreef op 08-10-2016 18:29:
On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen wrote:
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42:
Just a very laste note.
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote:
>> In W
Colin Law schreef op 08-10-2016 18:29:
On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen wrote:
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42:
Just a very laste note.
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote:
>> In Windows
Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I had to look for
it)
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42:
Just a very laste note.
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote:
>> In Windows
Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I had to look for it)
it was about something that has *nothing* to do with security as it
dealth with network
Brendan Perrine schreef op 06-10-2016 23:54:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:49:21 +0200
Xen wrote:
might not even be a problem.
I honestly wonder why you need to run programs off a usb stick. I
remember even when I was a windows users thinking why do I need that.
I have run entire installed systems
Colin Watson schreef op 05-10-2016 21:44:
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 04:23:38PM +0200, Xen wrote:
Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41:
>along with that click packages are user packages and being used in
>ubuntu products on sale since 2015 (snaps will replace them
>eventually).
Colin Watson schreef op 06-10-2016 13:36:
And yet you then go on to describe more or less how to do exactly that
using ExecStop. (Yes, this is technically "stop" rather than "start"
and requires having a pseudo-service "started" before then, but I think
that's an uninteresting matter of semanti
It appears that SystemD does not allow for services to just be started
when a shutdown target is reached or is in the process or being reached.
The libnss-ldap package contains a script that enumerates low-ranking
usernames (from system users) and adds them to the
nss_initgroups_ignoreusers op
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 17:05:
On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:30, Xen wrote:
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:31:
let alone that some people don't use fstab at all on systemd
installs.
So what do they use instead?
systemd
I still use systemd with fstab.
Are you intentio
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 17:02:
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On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Xen wrote:
Errors? Hopefully warnings, such as the GTK GUI crap. When launching a
GUI by CLI I sometimes add 2>/dev/null ;).
KScreen. Lots of it.
Of course there are probably "session" services
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:56:
On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:59, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
Standardized things, at least for a distro.
Each distro has got it's policy, a distro specific standard. We could
chose the distro that fits best to our needs.
I didn't want to respond to this idea, bu
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:44:
On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:49, Xen wrote:
Ion Windows it is very easy to put some application on some usb stick
and run it from there, but this is hardly possible even in Linux.
You don't need to link against shared libraries. Neither a container
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:31:
Not to mention that there at least is one daemon that should run with
user privileges
only:http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/jackd.1.html
Jackd sounds very good but it probably won't be installable *by* a user
ever even if you did so, an
Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:44:
i must say that in many aspects i find nmcli more powerfull than
ifconfig for scripting ...
it changed a lot within the last years ...
one big disadvantage is still that it requires a lot of dependencies ip
or ifconfig do not require ... but disk s
Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41:
hi,
On Mi, 2016-10-05 at 04:05 +0200, Xen wrote:
Xen schreef op 05-10-2016 3:32:
>
> In short, the discrepancy between what a user can do and what root
> can
> do, is too big.
The result of this is that most services are installed comple
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 14:11:
On 05 Oct 2016, at 12:09, Xen wrote:
[snip] Main problems in Linux have not been solved and now big
solutions are built on top of it, and the consequence is that those
high level solutions must be as shabby as the low level underneath,
but now a 1000
JMZ schreef op 05-10-2016 7:50:
Is there really a huge learning curve for .bashrc and xinit? .bashrc
is mostly a way to make an alias list.
What I fear about snappy and other modularized systems is unnecessary
complexity. I fear that simple commands such as tar -t are going to be
replaced with a
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