Re: eclipse cann't work properly with ubuntu 14.04

2014-02-28 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:11 AM, 李白|字一日 wrote: > cannot show menus I think this is better suited as a bug... -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Robie Basak wrote: > It's fine to call out their security policy. That appears to be based on > fact. But I don't think it's reasonable to speculate by attacking them, > especially in their absence and without having an understanding of their > rationale. In no way

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > It is unclear why Linux Mint disables all of their security updates although > to some degree they have tried to justify their disabling of kernel updates > by suggesting that such updates could make a system unstable and that normal > user

Re: Let good developers like Mozilla to maintenance their packages

2013-09-20 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Ubuntu was born less than 9 years ago. Of the most popular current distros, > it's among the youngest. The more mature Mozilla developers picked their > Linux distros before Ubuntu did more than a little maturing, 10-15 years > ago, so these mo

Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

2013-09-06 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro wrote: > Yes, that is what I was trying to say. > They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it. I'm out of this one, the straw man just came out. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-dis

Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

2013-09-06 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro wrote: > 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell >> >> my suggestion is your realize the real facts >> that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job >> to update them if you want the latest

Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

2013-09-02 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Riccardo Padovani wrote: > Seriusly? Ubuntu is Linux for human beings and I have to download and > compile driver from myself? Throwing "Linux for human beings" makes no sense at all, under any circumstance because last I checked human beings compiled software too

Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

2013-09-02 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM, AG Restringere wrote: > Something that has really frustrated me about Ubuntu is how nvidia-graphics > drivers packages are never kept in sync with the upstream release schedule. > As a former Windows user I learned a long time ago that the way to achieve > the best

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Assuming add-apt-repository was installed by default, it's close. I think > something like this might be reasonable (imagine some policykit or whatever it > is called now magic here): > > $ sudo apt-get source hello > Reading package lists

Re: Proposal to change default search engine

2013-06-24 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Alexander Hanff wrote: > After launching NoDPI.org and successfully chasing Phorm out of the UK and > EU, I took up a position at Privacy International, where I headed up their > Digital Privacy portfolio for 3 years. I'll just leave this here: http://www.guardia

No USN for Chromium on Ubuntu?

2013-06-10 Thread Jordon Bedwell
We just got DSA-2706-1 which upgraded Debian's Chromium to 27 but received no USN for the old version of Chromium in Ubuntu so I was wondering if there was going to be a USN and an update since normally I get USN's before DSA's. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubun

Re: Is this so hard to fix? Or important?

2013-06-09 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Daniel Hollocher wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Rodney Dawes >> wrote: >> > Furthermore, as already stated, this is a bug in eog (or perhaps >> > gdk-pixbuf), if it >> > can't open

Re: Is this so hard to fix? Or important?

2013-06-09 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > I can understand that it may be quite hard to do a reliable migration > on released versions. However, cannot you take a chance to fix it in > Ubuntu+1? I'm using Saucy now but I don't mind you break things > temporally to fix this bug. It would

Re: Is this so hard to fix? Or important?

2013-06-09 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Robert Park wrote: >> I propose that we fix Eog, but leave the file with the extension .png ;-) > > Is it that hard to change a file name? Is it that hard for you to send a patch changing a file name? -- Ubuntu

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-22 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Dale Amon wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:56:08PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: >> Commenting/Uncommenting deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list seems >> much simpler/easier. > > I can deal with that... I always have changes to make to sources.list > anyway, so

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > Hi, > > ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) > > On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. > > Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select "Settings..." > Then a dialog pops up, but it doesn't respond to user click at al

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-20 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Apt will error out that it can't find the package. > > I think that if we are distributing binaries, we should (perhaps must, I'm not > sure) enable the source repositories in order to , as a free software > distribution, provide the sourc

Re: Final Freeze for Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring) now in effect

2013-04-18 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > On 2013-04-18 23:00, Adam Conrad wrote: > > 1) Installer/release-critical bugs that absolutely MUST get fixed > >lest we risk shipping a broken image that turns computers pink > > What's wrong with pink? > Bad troll is bad. -- Ubun

Re: Unity-2d packages in Raring

2013-04-01 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Colin Law wrote: > Just out of interest does anyone know why, on Raring, I keep getting > updates for unity-2d packages when unity-2d is, I thought, dead and > buried? > Seems odd unless you are less than 12.10 but there could always be a deprecation period. -- U

Re: Puppet version bump

2013-02-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > Last time I checked, it took a human to actually dist-upgrade (to go > from 2.7 to 3.0...) What you expect and what everybody and their mother does are two different things. > Are people really doing that and not expecting things to go horribl

Re: Puppet version bump

2013-02-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM, John Moser wrote: > I work in a place without staging, and we desperately need it, and I > am becoming slowly more aggressive and will be making arguments after > I torch my burn down charts. > > Think about that though. No testing environment. So much pain. Talk

Re: Puppet version bump

2013-02-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM, John Moser wrote: > On a related note, Puppet 3.1 came out ... yesterday. So next debate: > 3.0.2 or 3.1 into Debian experimental? (I've been trying to get it > brought in) If it were me, I would rather fight to upgrade once, not twice. > 3.1 did not include ht

Re: Puppet version bump

2013-01-26 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM, John Moser wrote: > I'm noticing that 2.7 is still the version of Puppet in Raring; however, > version 3.0 was released October 1, 2012, before release of 12.04: > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/puppet-users/lqmTBX9XDtw/discussion > > Does this package cur

Re: Ubuntu and derivatives (Re: Ubuntu.com Download Page)

2013-01-25 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Allison Randal wrote: > That was meant to be "*U* for Unity ;)", but the winky got lost when I > had to manually retrieve/resend the message. (Mailman isn't as smart as > Launchpad about figuring out messages sent from one of many different > aliases.) Fair enough

Re: Ubuntu and derivatives (Re: Ubuntu.com Download Page)

2013-01-25 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Allison Randal wrote: > On 01/25/2013 02:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Each flavor has a dedicated landing page: kubuntu.org, edubuntu.org, > xubuntu.org, ubuntustudio.org, mythbuntu.org, lubuntu.net. The one for > *U*buntu (with *U* for Unity is ubuntu.com. By

Re: Improving Access to Themes etc.

2013-01-18 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Vesa Paatero wrote: >By using the normal settings programs to configure the desktop, I could > only see four themes to select from, two of which were high-contrast themes > and the other two being Ubuntu themes with orange activation colors. So, the > choices w

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote: >> Do you see any added value to a 'splash screen' hiding *everything* that >> is happening on *SERVER* installs? > > Disable it? It takes but one obvious edit inside of /etc/default/grub. > Pro tip: - qu

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-03 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Jordon Bedwell (jor...@envygeeks.com): > >> > I agree, just did not want to say it. I get the feeling there >> > are a lot of people working on Linux these days who have never >> > set foot into a

Re: Problem with Quantal and a KVM

2013-01-02 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > I agree, just did not want to say it. I get the feeling there > are a lot of people working on Linux these days who have never > set foot into a data centre. Your statement is full of fail and horseshit. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubu

Re: Promote puppet to main?

2012-12-25 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Luis Mondesi wrote: > If somebody out there is starting something from scratch, use Chef/Puppet. If > you are stuck with something old but useful, then try to start a new project > with a modern system in parallel (use the old system to deploy the client of > t

Re: Possible inclusion of zram-config on default install

2012-12-07 Thread Jordon Bedwell
-1. I am not on a netbook and even my laptop have 12gb of Ram. It would be nice if Ubuntu did detect your ram and decide but not force it on people like me who aren't memory constrained. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Fabio Pedretti wrote: > It would be nice if Ubuntu could include zram-config

Git-Cola maintainer?

2012-11-30 Thread Jordon Bedwell
I'm wondering if there is an actual maintainer for Git-Cola or if it's really just managed by the world of Ubuntu developers and MOTU's and updated whenever. I'm asking because in 12.04 we never got the new version of Git-Cola (1.7 or 1.8) and we are still on 1.4.*. even in Quantal we are stuck on

Re: chromium memory conumption on x86_64

2012-11-28 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Honestly, I dont know anymore, as it's now several month ago > (I guess it was somewhere in spring / early summer). > > But: I've noticed that problem almost immediately after switching > to Ubuntu, and I've got the feeling that it gets slig

Re: Ubuntu for Android

2012-11-19 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Chris Mosetick wrote: > Hi James, > I too would like to know where to get a Ubuntu for Android phone. Good find > on the new video. At the moment, hardware wise it still seems like vapor. > Let me know if you find out any details. FWIW, I'm in the U.S., but I'm all

Re: EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > One example is http://pad.lv/1065652 which while obviously a user > interface change, happened after Final Freeze without the typical > paperwork; presumably because it was *that* critical to mitigate the > privacy concerns. I think you are s

Re: EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Robie Basak wrote: > Forks happen when people disagree. Is there really any disagreement > here? Have any privacy-related patches actually been rejected, or is it > just that nobody has written them? Patches being rejected are a bit narrow, when the Canonical lead

Re: Update manager mandating rebooting

2012-10-31 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Daniel J Blueman wrote: > I was thinking along the lines of we have something in the indicator area to > avoid forgetting to reboot. Point is, it's almost certainly not a convenient > time to reboot after you just opened up to get something actually done and > upd

Re: Default group

2012-10-18 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Nicolas Michel wrote: > To be honnest I never gave a try to Ubuntu One, probably for bad > conservative reasons. I will try it. But I still feel that even if you're > right that pushing things into the cloud make things simpler, there are > still some flaws : Most

Re: Default group

2012-10-17 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, John Moser wrote: > I suggest all users should go into group 'users' as the default group, > with $HOME default to 700 and in the group 'users'. A umask of 027 or > the traditional 022 is still viable: the files in $HOME are not > visible because you cannot list

Re: DNS caching disabled for 12.10...still

2012-10-17 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > For example, it allows changing nameservers reliably without having to > restart applications, and allows us to dispatch DNS queries on different > links depending on the domain (consider VPNs). Could there not be an option inside of NM that

Re: DNS caching disabled for 12.10...still

2012-10-07 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Daniel J Blueman wrote: > Can you elaborate the specific reasons/mechanisms why without per-user > caching, dnsmasq is still a security weakness? At least these views > should be shared upstream so we can work on resolving the issues. It's a subjective security is

Re: chromium no longer maintained

2012-09-04 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nicolas Michel wrote: > You have wrong. Chromium is and ever was the core of the web browser from > Google. And it is open source (there was no before, no after, no fork - it > is the core). Google Chrome is that core, plus a certain amout of code which > is not ope

Re: chromium no longer maintained

2012-09-03 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > Daniel is talking about chromium-browser not Google Chrome which is closed > source and he is correct chromium-browser is outdated since the maintainer > of the package has moved on to other projects. Please don't spread lies. The bulk (

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Dale Amon wrote: > I usually de-install it on servers. A server has the interfaces > and static IP addresses I tell it has and it should never, ever > even consider overriding those settings. > > NM is okay (usually) for portable luser devices, but not for > the ra

Why are there dependencies that aren't actually dependencies on some packages?

2012-08-20 Thread Jordon Bedwell
Since when does Brasero or other packages need/require liblaunchpad-integration-common to work properly, or they will suddenly fall to the ground and never work again. I've noticed quite a few packages that require launchpad integration when they don't actually need or require it, it's fine to hav

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-09 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 08/09/2012 10:08 AM, Conscious User wrote: > (2) when the hands return from the keyboard to the mouse, > they frequently do it to access GUI elements that are usually > on the left in most DEs. This could be wishful thinking, the address bar extends across the screen so you are assuming they al

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 08/08/2012 07:08 PM, decle...@nuxwin.com wrote: > Please, > > You are not happy with Unity? So, I recommend you to simply move back to > gnome or any other UI of your choice, and then set up your launcher > where and as you want but please, stop to scare/annoy all Ubuntu > developers! You do no

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 08/08/2012 01:27 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: > Constructive criticism identifies a problem, explains why it is a > problem, and suggests what can be done to fix it. Complaining about > what was done in the past, and how it was done, often with little > basis in reality, is ranting. See the differe

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 08/08/2012 12:34 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: > If you actually explained how it has any bearing, rather than going on > a useless rant, your message might have some value to this list. Speaking of useless. And because critiscm is ranting... oh yeah that is usually the go to word for people now eve

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 08/08/2012 10:25 AM, Phillip Susi wrote: >> GNOME SHELL. The thing you have to hit to do anything is in the >> top left corner. Want to log out? That's in the top right, >> fastest thing you'll be able to hit ever. > > Which hand you prefer to hold the mouse with has no bearing on how > fast

Re: autoremoving metapackages doesn't remove dependencies... can we create hybrid-metapackages that do?

2012-06-27 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Chris McClimans wrote: > Why does autoremoving the ubuntu-virt-mgmt metapackage fail to remove any > dependencies, while autoremoving the virt-manager package works as expected? > > Is there a difference in the way that metapackages are processed vs normal > packa

Re: multiple reports of same bug-needs fixing

2012-06-01 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: > Do you consider repeating a question on IRC once every minute spamming?   > Every 5 minutes?  Most people would say yes.  You take that time out to once > an hour and in that time frame new people often join the channel, or come > back from A

Re: multiple reports of same bug-needs fixing

2012-06-01 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: > On 06/01/2012 03:59 PM, Sam Smith wrote: > Once is fine.  A second time after a week or three is too.  Three times in as > many days is the definition of spam. What bad dictionary do you use? Or are these just subjective semantics? -- Ubun

Re: please fix Bug#923940 or Bug#882254

2012-05-31 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On May 31, 2012 4:59 AM, "Alexandre Strube" wrote: > - please tell us how this e-mail of yours is helpful in any way at all. Please tell us how this statement is useful as well. You are no less an ass at this point, considering you thought it useful to even include this. > - I don't really under

Re: Questions and patches related to casper.

2012-05-16 Thread Jordon Bedwell
Because Ubuntus goal is easy, yes you can be advanced but easy is priority and dd is 'hard' in a sense depending on how you look at it. I think it would be better to diagnose the grub problems and go that route making the installer error free. On May 16, 2012 10:31 PM, "Akkana Peck" wrote: > > B

Re: Tor & application-firewall support

2012-04-24 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Sam Smith wrote: > Isn't Android Linux based? Just because it's loosely based on Linux does not mean it is close to the same Linux, same type of Linux or even close to the same build of Linux. Though with this latest release of the Linux kernel we are step closer

Recent OpenSSL update that breaks cloudfront and rubygems.org?

2012-04-20 Thread Jordon Bedwell
The recent update to OpenSSL in Precise has rendered cloudfront.com unusable (as well as several other hosts which people have noted throughout other various bugs -- the one I discovered was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/986147). Can we please get a fix since this breaks do

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: > The point is that SpiderOak (and Lastpass) never know the user's password. > And never receive the encryption key. The key never leaves the user's > computer. The server never gets it. The only thing that ever lands on the > server is an encrypted

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 07:55:09PM -0400, Sam Smith wrote: >> >> I use "SpiderOak" because it offers client-side encryption. It provides the >> security & privacy I seek. >> >> I'd prefer to use Ubuntu One, but until it supports client-side AES 2

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-02 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Monday, April 02, 2012 08:58:20 PM Dale Amon wrote: >> Oh and did I mention that some are only accessible >> by ip or have unique ssh ports for security? I'm >> not very good at remembering those at 3am. > > That's what ~/.ssh/config is f

Re: can we find a solution to bug #820895 (show Process Name in log files) (imaginative solution/description presented)?

2012-02-07 Thread Jordon Bedwell
Stop throwing around privacy like there is some big security flaw in Linux, there are tools that do what everyone wants, it seems to me that nobody is willing to even look or everybody is fed baby food, what is the point of being on Linux if you aren't going to use the terminal for what it's there

Re: multiarch pulling in i386 packages

2012-02-02 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On my x86_64 Ubuntu install, I have CrossOver installed. Its package > description looks like: > > Package: ia32-crossover-pro > Status: install ok installed > Priority: optional > Sect

Bug 657901 (Kernel having a required dependency of wireless tools)

2012-01-27 Thread Jordon Bedwell
I was wondering if we could get the kernel team to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/657901 before the Kernel freeze since it's an LTS. I'm all for it being installed by default as a recommend but I would certainly love to remove it too much like we are able to rid of most o