Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

A lot of this is non-sense. We'll see if this technological contribution lasts. If it is useful, then so be it. How long it lasts, and how useful it turns out to be, in the end, depends on how many people apply that technique, that's all. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:

Re: Jaunty 64-bit and NVIDIA -- Any ideas?

Thanks (: Now I just need to get my keys for Doom3, Doom3 ROE and Quake4 to work. Since the reload, the clients claim that the keys are "in use". Emailing Activision hasn't yielded anything in about 5 days. Which brings to light some of the reasons I like FOSS software: 1) No stupid serial keys,

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

Tim Zakharov wrote: > Mark Fink wrote: > >> it would be better if it was removed from the repos too, but ubuntu >> >> would get back some of its respect if it at least removed MONO from >> the default install like Fedora is doing. >> > I just listened to the FLOSS Weekly podcast from May wh

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Chan > > wrote: > > Besides, I have already made clear in later posts in this thread > that I > really do not care what is used so long as it is uniform across all >

Re: Jaunty 64-bit and NVIDIA -- Any ideas?

On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 08:01 +0200, Davyd McColl wrote: > Good day > > Thanks for your response. Suspecting that there could be a problem > with the card itself (rather inconveniently coincidental, since I just > bought a new mobo, psu and ram after a power surge (as far as I can > ascertain) kille

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 23:35 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > John Moser writes: > > > GRUB2 on its own partition is silly. Like having a separate /boot. > > It is required for stuff like root on LVM, a configuration supported by > the alternate installer. This is news to my laptop, which is ha

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > >> To name one problem, people who use LVM can't use GRUB because it >> doesn't support LVM block devices. > > Of course this is wrong, silly me. What I meant is that you have to > bypass LVM for GRUB, by mea

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

I hope mono wins On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Tuesday 09 June 2009 7:43:37 pm Mark Fink wrote: > > obviously some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people > > who drink they're koolaid) who are censoring respectable people like > > neighborlee when

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

John Moser writes: > GRUB2 on its own partition is silly. Like having a separate /boot. It is required for stuff like root on LVM, a configuration supported by the alternate installer. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-d

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > > To name one problem, people who use LVM can't use GRUB because it > doesn't support LVM block devices. Of course this is wrong, silly me. What I meant is that you have to bypass LVM for GRUB, by means of a non-LVM /boot partition. I h

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

John, On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM, John Moser wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Luke L wrote: >> How many of these things are actually going to make it into Karmic? A >> dynamically sized swap file? GRUB 2 residing on its own partition, >> etc? These things sound good. >> > > GRUB2 on

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

ke, 2009-06-10 kello 15:21 -0400, John Moser kirjoitti: > Every argument for putting Grub or the kernel on a separate partition > has been based around the idea that these files are somehow more > important than, say, /bin/sh Putting the kernel (i.e., /boot) on a separate partition is often mandat

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Luke L wrote: > How many of these things are actually going to make it into Karmic? A > dynamically sized swap file? GRUB 2 residing on its own partition, > etc? These things sound good. > GRUB2 on its own partition is silly. Like having a separate /boot. What pro

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Andrew SB wrote: > If anyone who hadn't made up their > mind on this issue has read this thread, I can't imagine they would > come away with a positive view of the anti-mono viewpoint. The OP has > done his cause a great disservice. That's why I ultimately decided

Re: devel-dicuss: the list itself, and mono

That's why you don't use corporate email or real names on the internet. You guys are lucky enough to se me using my primary address, which has my last initial in the header! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, David Schlesinger wrote: >> When someone starts emailing people's >> bosses about them, thin

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

How many of these things are actually going to make it into Karmic? A dynamically sized swap file? GRUB 2 residing on its own partition, etc? These things sound good. Also, would a dedicated GRUB2 parition be able to exist on LVM/raid? Just curious. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Scott James Re

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM, David Schlesinger wrote: > Mark Fink continues to scribble: >> >> luckily only stupid people who can't think for themselves fawn over >> MONO...some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people >> who drink they're koolaid)... > > Wasn't it you who was com

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

David Schlesinger wrote: > >> and then he goes and creates GNOME while badmouthing KDE and splitting >> the Linux community. with friends like him, who needs enemies? > > I've rarely seen a more slanted and pointless characterization of GNOME. > I'm a member of the GNOME Foundation advisory board

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

Mark Fink wrote: > it would be better if it was removed from the repos too, but ubuntu > > would get back some of its respect if it at least removed MONO from > the default install like Fedora is doing. I just listened to the FLOSS Weekly podcast from May where they interviewed a Fedora developer

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Chan < christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk> wrote: > Besides, I have already made clear in later posts in this thread that I > really do not care what is used so long as it is uniform across all > operating systems. If Ubuntu wants to do its thing while ot

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009/6/10 Mark Fink > > yes it does and the people behind the censorship need to be exposed > for what they really are Moderators? As I understand, the Ubuntu forums are for useful, constructive posts that adhere to the Code of Conduct. It would appear to be almost a consensus that those posts

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: > Knock the doors of the POSIX committee This seems like a good idea. How are we going to do this? I don't know the procedures of IEEE. It may also be a good idea to first have a few Linux companies in the fold, like Canonical, Novell and R

Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 31, Issue 42

I'm sorry, but the 12-year-old in me needs to scream this out: PWNED! Mark, come on dude, just say "uncle" and leave the playground. The adults have work to do here. > Well, just for starts, I was instrumental in supporting Stuart Cheshire's > work on ZEROCONF while I was his manager at > Appl

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

Vincenzo Ciancia wrote > >> no wonder you got reported to your boss, david. you are not very >> resptful of your users and customers. > > You all are going completely crazy. Reporting to bosses?? Do you think > it is RIGHT to risk to ruin a career and a life because of a discussion > on the web?

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

>> a) "Respect" from whom, exactly? You? Paige? > > the Linux community There's no lack of respect in the "Linux community" for Ubuntu; quite the contrary: Ubuntu has arguably done more than any other distro in broadening the use of Linux and in making it more available and accessible to a broad

clamav 0.95.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1.2: possible error in clamav-base.config.in

Good day Ubuntu community, while backporting clamav 0.95.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1.2 to Ubuntu 8.04, i noticed in the script debian/clamav-base.config.in: AddGroups=`groups "$User" | awk -F ':' '{print $2}' | sed -e s/"$User"//` It seems that the "groups" command output is not the same on Debian, RedH

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

Vincenzo Ciancia wrote > > > to MONO boosters, MONO is a religion: > > http://nocturn.vsbnet.be/node/142 > > > To UBUNTU boosters, UBUNTU is a religion. I am not surprised by this. And to Mono-haters, Mono-hating is a religion. As Mark has been amply demonstrating here. -- Ubuntu-devel-discus

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

> no wonder you got reported to your boss, david. you are not very > resptful of your users and customers. I'm not sure I'd know where to begin being "resptful" of someone. I had a "resptful" sleep last night, though. Neither you nor Paige are my users or my customers. We're all (supposed to be)

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

Mark Fink continues to scribble: > > luckily only stupid people who can't think for themselves fawn over > MONO...some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people > who drink they're koolaid)... Wasn't it you who was complaining not long ago about "personal attacks"...? I'll refrain f

RE: shameful censoring of mono opposition

> it would be better if it was removed from the repos too, but ubuntu > would get back some of its respect if it at least removed MONO from > the default install like Fedora is doing. A few questions: a) "Respect" from whom, exactly? You? Paige? b) Why does this matter? Is someone running a conte

RE: devel-dicuss: the list itself, and mono

> When someone starts emailing people's > bosses about them, things have gone a bit too far. That's what I would have thought. I suspect that Paige, at least, doesn't have much sense of the meaning of either "code" or "conduct". Of course, my manager knows better than to take that sort of obviou

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 17:27 -0400, Matt Price wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 15:21 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > On Monday 08 June 2009 6:45:20 pm André Pirard wrote: > > > Similarly, the swap partition should be a Linux file. > > > > I think this was talked about at UDS as something people

Re: Whatever happened to...

Evan wrote: > In the Intrepid cycle, there was something going on where it would add > a "last good boot" option to grub instead of all the old kernels in > order to keep the list cleaner and shorter. It was dropped quite close > to release because of some unfixed bugs, and seems to have > disa

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 20.02 -0400, Mark Fink ha scritto: > > > Maybe you should go start an "I HATE MONO!!!" mailing list, Mark, > where you > > can dispense your bile without fear of having anyone point out that > you're > > doing nothing to add light here, only heat. > > > > no wonder

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 19.43 -0400, Mark Fink ha scritto: > > to MONO boosters, MONO is a religion: > http://nocturn.vsbnet.be/node/142 > To UBUNTU boosters, UBUNTU is a religion. I am not surprised by this. V. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.c

Status of OCaml packages on Ubuntu Karmic - 2009-06-10

Hello, After some rebuilds, the status of OCaml packages in Ubuntu Karmic is in much better shape: http://bentobako.org/ubuntu-ocaml-status/transition_monitor/ocaml_transition_monitor.html Currently, only 3 packages have issues (over 124): * pycaml: a new version (0.82-10) has been uploaded i