Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 17:18 -0500, Martin Owens wrote: > > In the interest of feature-parity, the relevant question to my mind is: > > can composited Metacity do everything that the default Compiz can? I'm > > not talking about what can be enabled with ccsm or simple-ccsm, but what > > can be enab

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 01:25 +0100, Remco wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Christopher James Halse Rogers > wrote: > > The characterisation of Compiz as just about shiny effects is wrong. > > The default plugin set also provides a better _window manager_ than > > Metacity in many ways. >

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Remco
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Christopher James Halse Rogers wrote: > The characterisation of Compiz as just about shiny effects is wrong. > The default plugin set also provides a better _window manager_ than > Metacity in many ways. I wouldn't know about that last claim. Metacity doesn't hav

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:10:23 -0500 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Would it be a good idea to plan to use Metacity as the default > compositing manager for Ubuntu instead of compiz in the future? > > Compiz seems mostly unnecessary. If metacity was used, it would be > easier on the machine and work for

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 14:10 -0500, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Would it be a good idea to plan to use Metacity as the default > compositing manager for Ubuntu instead of compiz in the future? > > Compiz seems mostly unnecessary. If metacity was used, it would be > easier on the machine and work for

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
> In the interest of feature-parity, the relevant question to my mind is: > can composited Metacity do everything that the default Compiz can? I'm > not talking about what can be enabled with ccsm or simple-ccsm, but what > can be enabled in Appearances -> Desktop Effects. If the simple > transi

Re: Vlc won't play DVD's on Ubuntu, or Kubuntu Intrepid

2009-02-09 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 08 February 2009 17:06, Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:23:40PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > I have vlc installed on both my Ubuntu, and Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10 > > installs, but vlc will not play dvd's. It finds the optical drive ok, and > > I get the menu up for the d

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Dylan McCall
Another thing worth noting is that Ubuntu's /default/ effects via Compiz are very modest. In fact, they provide the same general features as Metacity's compositor does by default with about a quarter the standards compliance. (A stand-out example for standards compliance being the fact that GIMP's

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 16:00 -0500, Joe Terranova wrote: > >> As it is, compiz is tried, and Ubuntu falls back on Metacity if it > >> doesn't work. So if they don't have the "hardware", they'll use > >> Metacity. > > > That's good, but why even include compiz in the first place? Doesn't it just > >

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Danny Piccirillo
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Joe Terranova wrote: > >> As it is, compiz is tried, and Ubuntu falls back on Metacity if it > >> doesn't work. So if they don't have the "hardware", they'll use > >> Metacity. > > > That's good, but why even include compiz in the first place? Doesn't it > just > >

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 15:48 -0500, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > That's good, but why even include compiz in the first place? Doesn't > it just take up extra space that could be used for something more > useful (isn't there a problem with keeping Ubuntu small enough to fit > onto a CD?) In the interes

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Joe Terranova
>> As it is, compiz is tried, and Ubuntu falls back on Metacity if it >> doesn't work. So if they don't have the "hardware", they'll use >> Metacity. > That's good, but why even include compiz in the first place? Doesn't it just > take up extra space that could be used for something more useful (i

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Danny Piccirillo
That's good, but why even include compiz in the first place? Doesn't it just take up extra space that could be used for something more useful (isn't there a problem with keeping Ubuntu small enough to fit onto a CD?) On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Joe Terranova wrote: > As it is, compiz is tried

Re: Pointer glide idea for Synaptics driver

2009-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 11:15 -0800, Dylan McCall wrote: > It isn't /required/ to use synclient and SHMConfig; one can use the > configuration in xorg.conf if he wants. For temporary fiddling, > though, synclient is a nice and simple way to get the friction > settings just right. I know, but syndaem

Re: Pointer glide idea for Synaptics driver

2009-02-09 Thread Dylan McCall
It isn't /required/ to use synclient and SHMConfig; one can use the configuration in xorg.conf if he wants. For temporary fiddling, though, synclient is a nice and simple way to get the friction settings just right. The patch is a bit troublesome because some of it is in a list of variables that l

Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Would it be a good idea to plan to use Metacity as the default compositing manager for Ubuntu instead of compiz in the future? Compiz seems mostly unnecessary. If metacity was used, it would be easier on the machine and work for people who don't have the hardware for compiz. Anyone who wants all t

Re: Pointer glide idea for Synaptics driver

2009-02-09 Thread Siegfried Gevatter (RainCT)
Interesting idea. I've uploaded a patched version of xserver-xorg-input-synaptics for Intrepid to my PPA (https://launchpad.net/~rainct/+archive/ppa), where it should be available in some hours. Note that I haven't tried it; if the package lets your computer explode don't blame me :). By the way,

Re: Pointer glide idea for Synaptics driver

2009-02-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 07:58 -0800, Dylan McCall wrote: Sounds nice (similar behaviour to using an iPhone or G1, I assume), but... > To enable this, run "synclient PointerGlide=1". This requires SHMConfig, which is a security Bad Thing. Many of the things accessible through synclient are moving

Re: Pointer glide idea for Synaptics driver

2009-02-09 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Dylan McCall wrote: ... I originally submitted this as an upstream feature request + patch, but the folks there convinced me that it was a bit too crazy (and untested) of an idea for them, though it may make sense somewhere closer to a desktop... So I am posting here t

Pointer glide idea for Synaptics driver

2009-02-09 Thread Dylan McCall
Here's a little experiment I threw together. First of all, sorry about the huge quantity of babbling. In short, you can jump to the bottom, apply the patch and say what you think. In long (with chapters :P): The background (rationale?): The mouse is a successful input tech

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-09 Thread Didier Roche
2009/2/9 Martin Pitt : > > Due to the reasons Colin pointed out, I think that installing them all > by default is still a good choice. It comes on the CD, so you don't > need to download them during installation, and after installation you > can always remove them completely with System -> Administ