Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Oct 28, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Evan Huus wrote: I definitely agree that the non-techie will not understand the difference between Prefs and Admin. Perhaps renaming "Preferences" to *username* and "Administration" to "All Users"? Something like that would be clearer, although then we might want to

Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread mina
it is really a good idea and I agree with you strongly the list is really long, no logical ordering and not all users need all this. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-deve

Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread Evan Huus
I definitely agree that the non-techie will not understand the difference between Prefs and Admin. Perhaps renaming "Preferences" to *username* and "Administration" to "All Users"? Something like that would be clearer, although then we might want to also rename "System" to "Preferences"? We should

Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread Chris Warburton
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 14:48 +0100, Milan wrote: > What we could do is moving some items to a System Tools submenu in > Applications if there are enough tools that can go there (I don't think > it's true at the moment). If I recall the System Tools menu in Applications was seen as redundant and co

Re: Checking /usr/local/ before upgrading

2007-10-28 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 28/10/2007 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > When should anything go in /usr/local/{bin,lib}? > > E.g. when you are not wanting to upgrade the system later. /usr/local is the standard place to put non-distribution-managed software. Debian was the first to fully accomplish this goal by not installing

Re: Checking /usr/local/ before upgrading

2007-10-28 Thread Reinhard Tartler
"Fergal Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When should anything go in /usr/local/{bin,lib}? E.g. when you are not wanting to upgrade the system later. I think of (virtual) machines here, that are installed and configured automatically. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 --

Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread Martin Olsson
Milan wrote: > At least, there is a logic: Preferences are/should be for user settings, > Administration for system-wide, often requiring admin rights settings. > Still, there are issues with this classification: the Network Tools are > not settings at all, Hardware Information is in preferences (s

Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread Milan
At least, there is a logic: Preferences are/should be for user settings, Administration for system-wide, often requiring admin rights settings. Still, there are issues with this classification: the Network Tools are not settings at all, Hardware Information is in preferences (see bug 147152)... Th

Re: Checking /usr/local/ before upgrading

2007-10-28 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Reinhard Tartler ha scritto: > Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Similar issues might happen if one has something in /usr/local/bin, so >> wouldn't it be wise to ask, in the upgrade program, if user wants to >> temporarily rename /usr/local to /usr/local.upgraded during upgrade, so

Re: Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread Nicolas Deschildre
Ouch, my words are a little confusing. What i means is grouping items of the preference menu in themed submenus. And the same thing for administration menu. But not merging both menus! Sorry for the lack of clarity. Nicolas On 10/28/07, Nicolas Deschildre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I w

Re: Checking /usr/local/ before upgrading

2007-10-28 Thread Fergal Daly
On 28/10/2007, Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Fergal Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> I'd really suggest to install your special libraries, local software > >> etc. either to /usr/local/$PACKAGE or /srv/local/$PACKAGE or somewhere > >> else. You can use environment variables

Grouping preferences/Administration items?

2007-10-28 Thread Nicolas Deschildre
Hi! I was wondering if it might be a good idea to update the policy to group preferences/administration items (in the system menu)... Right now, with a few additionnal programs installed, the list of items is longer than my 900px-height screen. I have to look several times to search and find what

Re: Checking /usr/local/ before upgrading

2007-10-28 Thread Reinhard Tartler
"Fergal Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'd really suggest to install your special libraries, local software >> etc. either to /usr/local/$PACKAGE or /srv/local/$PACKAGE or somewhere >> else. You can use environment variables or rpath to make them work. > > So when should anything go in /usr/