Re: [Bug 204996] Re: Linux kernel 2.6.24-12 lockup

2008-08-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I'm expecting that we will shortly have a PPA for hardy which includes: - the proposed Intrepid kernel - a daily build of kernel.org's "tip" - the virgin kernel.org kernel that corresponds to hardy's kernel Between those, we should have ample opportunity to help provide testing for upstream a

Re: [Bug 204996] Re: Linux kernel 2.6.24-12 lockup

2008-08-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ben Collins wrote: > Upstream doesn't care about testing 2.6.24 any more. But it is useful for us to assess if an issue was introduced in patches we added to that stable release, or if it was there already. > They want us to help test tip. Sure, which is why we should make tip available for both st

[Bug 389110] Re:

2009-06-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 49052 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/49052 It's difficult to know how to triage this. status invalid -- HFS+ partitions are mounted read-only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389110 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubunt

Re: [Bug 334809] Re: design problem? infinite wait for long queue

2009-06-21 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ted, I'm cc'ing you on this because of the app developer interface issues it raises. Mirco, your comments would be valuable too. An obvious solution to the apps-that-spew-notifications problem is to encourage the app developers to keep track of notifications and use appends / replaces more effici

Re: [Bug 334809] Re: design problem? infinite wait for long queue

2009-06-21 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks Mirco, that's very cool. Can you look into the feasibility of having the default Karmic music player adopt this pattern? -- design problem? infinite wait for long queue https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/334809 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

Re: [Bug 334809] Re: design problem? infinite wait for long queue

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Steve, you rock. -- design problem? infinite wait for long queue https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/334809 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/m

Re: [Bug 372789] Re: NotifyOSD notifications shouldn't appear when using fullscreen applications

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I'd like to draw the Ayatana group's attention to bug #372789, a question about the interaction between fullscreen apps on multiple monitors and notifications. At the moment, our guidance to the developers is that fullscreen apps should block non-critical notifications. Aurelien has implemented t

Re: [Bug 372789] Re: NotifyOSD notifications shouldn't appear when using fullscreen applications

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Julian Lam wrote: > In any case, Vadim's suggestion of supressing notify-osd altogether > during fullscreen apps works if you're playing a game, but when I'm > watching a video, I would appreciate notifications on my secondary > monitor. > At the moment, I think we should suppress non-critical

Re: [Bug 26930] Re: Suggested output when printing a file to PDF is technical and generic "~/output.pdf"

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
A papercut is a small fix - this feels like a much larger one. The platform team should push back on "papercuts" that involve complex effort. Mark -- Usability Issue: Create A PDF Document: Save as https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/26930 You received this bug notification because you are a member

Re: [Bug 301035] Re: Ubuntu icon on the system partition

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Fred wrote: > Yes, look at the screenshot. > Just add an "Ubuntu" icon to the system partition. > > Yes, we could also add Windows or Mac icon to other partitions if detected. I > am not sure it is a copyright issue, but perhaps a trademark issue. But we > could use similar own icons instead of t

Re: [Bug 147230] Re: Workspace switching via touchpad works badly

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I'm also +1 on turning that off. We put a workspaces applet on the lower panel at present, don't we? Mark -- Workspace switching via touchpad works badly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubu

Re: [Bug 385850] Re: Ship fewer screensavers by default

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
In the first release of Ubuntu, we stripped out many, many screensavers, to good effect. I'm +1 on a comprehensive review with the goal to cut them down to the 20 most surprisingly wonderful ones. I'd back a *small* group to make that determination. Mark -- Ship fewer screensavers by default ht

Re: [Bug 316347] Re: O2 GSM dongle does not show up in NM applet

2009-06-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Steve, can you look into /etc/ppp/options and try making sure that: - you have noauth instead of auth - you have uncommented ipcp-accept-remote and ipcp-accept-local Does that address the issue for you? Mark -- O2 GSM dongle does not show up in NM applet https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3163

Re: [Bug 28835] Re: "Unmount" in volume right-click menu, is tech-speak and undiscoverable

2009-06-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ajay wrote: > Perhaps we need "Advanced..." entry / sub-menu in the right click menu. "Advanced" menu's are sign of conceptual problems and limitations, like "Other..." menu options. They are *very* difficult for users because they say "this is hard" which is a disincentive for users to explore the

Re: [Bug 15495] Re: "Archive Manager" doesn't mean anything if you don't know what an "archive" is

2009-06-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Scott Ritchie wrote: > There is a general problem here that we insist on having "Open with foo" > rather than actual application-defined verbs. The top four entries on > the right click menu shouldn't be "Open with Archive Manager" but rather > something like "Open archive" > That's a *really*

[Bug 334809] Re: [Bug 357150] Re: Regression vs notification-daemon: Notify-osd doesn't deal with a large number of notifications well

2009-06-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Given that there is another dup of the "long queue" issue, I'm cc'ing the Ayatana list. Ayatana team, for reference: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/357150 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/334809 MPT, can you point to a spec for the 9.10 queue throttling behaviour, that captures the ideas

Re: [Bug 382735] Re: "Deleted Items" should use consistent naming

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > Sebastien Bacher wrote: > >> could you also list the places which should be changed, "in most places" >> is not really something easy to work on, having a list of such issues >> would make work easier >> >> > > Thanks Seb, I'll try and nail down all these cases.

Re: [Bug 54637] Re: Searching in messages freezes Thunderbird

2009-05-26 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Haven't seen it in a while, happy for it to be marked fixed. status fixreleased ** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Fix Released -- Searching in messages freezes Thunderbird https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/54637 You received this bug notification because

Re: [Bug 375345] Re: "Ubuntu One" name creates confusion

2009-07-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
The issue from Silbs is the domain move to one.ubuntu.com, which is orthogonal. Mark -- "Ubuntu One" name creates confusion https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/375345 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing

Re: [Bug 357673] Re: No notification when sliding audio volume, muting volume, sliding LCD brightness on X31, X32, T60, R50e, T42, R52

2009-05-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I suspect there are quite a few different types of hardware which have the problem of buttons that are hardwired to generate the result. If this code can be the basis of a general solution, we should aim to get it packaged and included in Karmic. Matt - this is about a solution for laptop keys (v

[Bug 362124] Re: indicator-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I saw this on x86 32-bit as well. ** Tags added: dxteam -- indicator-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/362124 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 362124] Re: indicator-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ted, could you look into this please? Nervous to have it in the RC. ** Changed in: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High ** Changed in: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ted Gould

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 363304] Re: No volume change indication on volume change using trackpad or mouse scroll wheel

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Nifty! Do i understand you correctly that you want to be able to mouse over the volume indicator, scroll-wheel up or down, and have the syncronous notification display the volume? I think that's sweet! +1. Mark -- No volume change indication on volume change using trackpad or mouse scroll whe

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 362660] Re: chanserv / nickserv / server notifications not relevant

2009-04-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Stable Release Update's only fix security or critical data loss bugs, so this is not appropriate for an SRU. It is targeted for 9.10, though. Mark -- IM clients should blacklist system nicks like chanserv / nickserv / server for notifications and messaging menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 344385] Re: Brightness notification works only with Human Icons

2009-04-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I'm also not seeing volume on a Thinkpad X60. Mark -- Brightness notification works only with Human Icons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/344385 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@

[Bug 364442] [NEW] Thinkpad X60 volume keys do not show feedback notification

2009-04-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: notify-osd I'm using a Thinkpad X60. Volume up, down and mute keys do not seem to be working. I see no notification, and Gnome Volume Control applet doesn't respond to them either. ** Affects: acpi-support (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Sta

[Bug 364442] Re: Thinkpad X60 volume keys do not show feedback notification

2009-04-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
** Also affects: acpi-support (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Thinkpad X60 volume keys do not show feedback notification https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/364442 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 344385] Re: Brightness notification works only with Human Icons

2009-04-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
@Julius: I think the lack of volume keys on Thinkpad X/T60 is a separate issue, since the Gnome volume applet isn't seeing the key presses either. So I've filed #364442 for that. -- Brightness notification works only with Human Icons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/344385 You received this bug

Re: [Bug 357673] Re: No notification when sliding audio volume, muting volume, sliding LCD brightness on X31, X32, T60, R50e, T42

2009-04-21 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks Steve! -- No notification when sliding audio volume, muting volume, sliding LCD brightness on X31, X32, T60, R50e, T42 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/357673 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailin

[Bug 333711] [NEW] AppArmor profile for sbin.dhclient3 should handle connman

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Public bug reported: Connection manager ("connman") runs /sbin/dhclient using some specific actions and stores leases in different locations to NetworkManager. The new sbin.dhclient3 AppArmor profile prevents connman from acquiring an IP address and storing the lease, I include a patch to the prof

[Bug 333711] Re: AppArmor profile for sbin.dhclient3 should handle connman

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
** Attachment added: "Amends the apparmor profile to allow for connman's pattern of usage of dhclient" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23042638/connman-dhclient.patch ** Also affects: connman (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- AppArmor profile for sbin.dhclient3 should ha

[Bug 333711] Re: AppArmor profile for sbin.dhclient3 should handle connman

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
** Bug watch added: bugzilla.moblin.org/ #1009 https://bugzilla.moblin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 ** Also affects: connman via https://bugzilla.moblin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1009 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- AppArmor profile for sbin.dhclient3 should handle connman https://b

[Bug 332600] Re: gmount popups instead of libindicate

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
What did gnome-mount previously do when mounting? At the moment, I know the mounted volume shows up in the Places menu, and there is also sometimes a dialog giving options like importing images or auto-running content. I don't think we need a persistent indicator (like network- manager) for auto-mo

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 332600] Re: gmount popups instead of libindicate

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Which applet is this? -- gmount popups instead of libindicate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332600 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mail

[Bug 333997] Re: Eject notification doesn't use new notification framework

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Eject, as well as the multimedia keys (play, pause, stop, next, previous) are supposed to work for 9.04, so targeting this to Jaunty. ** Tags added: notifications ** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed ** Also affects: notify-osd Importance: Undecided

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 332079] Re: panel volume icon changes are not in sync with notification icon

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Sebastien Bacher wrote: > that's a minor detail, Heh. Minor details are our LIFEBLOOD in DX :-) -- panel volume icon changes are not in sync with notification icon https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332079 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscrib

Re: [Bug 332600] Re: gmount popups instead of libindicate

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ah. That will continue to work in 9.04. It may not work forever, but we would replace it with something else if that's the case. For the moment, there are no plans to add a libindicate version of the "mounted disks list". status wontfix Mark ** Changed in: notify-osd Status: Invalid =>

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 333366] Re: new nautilus windows stays in background due to "unfocus" policy in jaunty

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Is this a result of notify-osd? -- new nautilus windows stays in background due to "unfocus" policy in jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bug

Re: [Bug 217107] Re: Use ttf-liberation for default font

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I don't know that there is a process to take that decision. Would you raise it with the Tech Board, please? -- Use ttf-liberation for default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/217107 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 334472] Re: Inherit human-icon-theme so that gnome-icon-theme and all icon-themes which depend on it have access to the notification-* icons used by notify-osd.

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 331311 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/331311 There should be two sets of icons. One is freely available and could be included in the GNOME default theme, one is limited for use on Ubuntu. Mark -- Inherit human-icon-theme so that gnome-icon-theme and

Re: [Bug 332600] Re: "Writing data to device" appears as fallback alert

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
We queue notifications, they are asynchronous. In other words, it may not be displayed for some time after the app sent the message. So, we prefer to display it immediately as an alert, rather than delaying it then not knowing whether the time relates to reality or not. Mark -- "Writing data to

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 333997] Re: Eject notification doesn't use new notification framework

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
David Barth wrote: >case MUTE_KEY: >case VOLUME_DOWN_KEY: >case VOLUME_UP_KEY: >case EJECT_KEY: > My laptop also has STOP, NEXT, PREVIOUS, PLAY/PAUSE for multimedia. Then there are keys like LOCK, BATTERY, SLEEP, WIFI-OFF, LCD/EXTERNAL, SUSPEND. Is there a rigoro

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 332600] Re: "Writing data to device" appears as fallback alert

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
An alert is a dialog box that has a set of buttons, including OK and Cancel, and can be dismissed. Mark -- "Writing data to device" appears as fallback alert https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332600 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 334472] Re: Inherit human-icon-theme so that gnome-icon-theme and all icon-themes which depend on it have access to the notification-* icons used by notify-osd.

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 331311 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/331311 Some of the work we deliver as part of this initiative will come under the same protection as the Ubuntu name does. Well be sure to deliver work that fits into existing themes, like GNOME, along with the code

Re: [Bug 283095] Re: logout needs confirmation

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > The ExitStrategy spec requires kernel work (specifically, merging > suspend and hibernate) and session work (better session saving and > restoring), and is not scheduled for implementation. > > I've mocked up individual confirmation alerts for the Log Out, Shut > Down,

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 332600] Re: "Writing data to device" appears as fallback alert

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Martin Pitt wrote: > Should it be an unfocused window with just a bouncing progress bar, > which automatically goes away once umount is done? > Yes! -- "Writing data to device" appears as fallback alert https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332600 You received this bug notification because you are a

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 333997] Re: Eject notification doesn't use new notification framework

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Martin Pitt wrote: > You can generate an exhaustive list of known keycodes with > > grep KEY_ /usr/include/linux/input.h > Ah, wow, that's really useful, thanks Martin. The HotKeys work looks fantastic! Mark -- Eject notification doesn't use new notification framework https://bugs.launchp

Re: [Bug 332600] Re: "Writing data to device" appears as fallback alert

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
We can't support indefinite timeouts. We have no mechanism to dismiss them, and they queue up and are displayed serially, so an indefinite notification would be a real DOS on the system ;-) -- "Writing data to device" appears as fallback alert https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332600 You received

Re: [Dx-team] [Bug 334809] Re: design problem? infinite wait for long queue

2009-04-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
KillerKiwi wrote: > This is probably primarily a bug in the plugin but noify-osd should > insure you never get into this position regardless how how badly apps > may behave > > Its VERY annoying, maybe there should be a anti spam type deal.. if more > than N items are on queue from an application d

Re: [Bug 316347] Re: O2 GSM dongle does not show up in NM applet

2009-05-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Here's the status. In the final Jaunty release, the dongle shows up. However, it never established a connection. This weekend I played with various options in /etc/ppp/options and I found that setting "ipcp-accept-local" in that options file solved the problem. It seems that ipcp-accept-local is

Re: [Bug 327509] Re: Kernel freezing on both ext3 and ext4, possible criminal is Firefox

2009-04-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Wesley Velroij wrote: > Tha will shake them awake maby? > Wesley, please do not do that. There is plenty of Canonical and community attention on this bug. Acting like your bug is the most important thing for me to be doing makes me want to filter all mail from you straight to trash, and I expec

[Bug 377005] Re: Ubuntu is too attached to Canonical

2009-05-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ubuntu was founded together with Canonical, they have always been (and I hope they always will be) intertwined and interdependent. There are thousands of projects and hundreds of distributions, which have various degrees of involvement between themselves and companies. Contributors already align th

[Bug 340773] Re: kerneloops notifications crippled, fails to file

2009-03-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDevelopmentGuidelines has good suggestions for how to handle cases like this. -- kerneloops notifications crippled, fails to file https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/340773 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscrib

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Martin Pitt wrote: > Right, I just don't see how to sanely do that "use that > button > over here" educationary UI in the current state of intrepid (or at > all, but that requires some UI expert). > Exactly, so the better option is to move it, and let people figure it out. The current patch

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Sebastien Bacher wrote: >> We should certainly place the FUSA in the top right, and lock it, for >> > all users. > > what do we do for users who changed their gnome-panel to only have one > bar at the bottom of the screen for example? that's quite a common > scenario > Good point. We should

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Sebastien Bacher wrote: > I've nothing against the change and having a preference letting the user > select the layout to use would be alright No, we don't want to introduce tons of preferences just to let people stay on an old layout. > but doing dynamic menus change > depending of the configured

[Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I believe there's a patch from Ted on this bug which implements the conditional menu's, and it's working in a PPA. Can we have a review of that from the platform team please? -- When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283278 You r

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Martin Pitt wrote: > Mark Shuttleworth [2008-10-15 7:34 -]: > >> No we don't. We only need the system menu entries if someone has removed >> fusa. We will place fusa correctly for everyone on upgrade, and only >> show a single set of menu entries. >>

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ted Gould wrote: > While I agree that it should be dynamic, the goal was to make the patch as > small as possible considering the date in the release cycle. The reality is > that, to make it dynamic, will require introducing some plumbing into > gnome-panel that is not really there. > > Since i

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
No, Scott, I'd like to backport the fix as an SRU. -- When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283278 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mail

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:55 +0000, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > >> No, Scott, I'd like to backport the fix as an SRU. >> > Sorry Mark, but changing a behaviour such as the ability to log out > *after* a release is insane! &

[Bug 285801] Re: Clicking on "Know your rights" on first launch brings up XML parser error

2008-10-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 282875 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/282875 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 282875 about:rights does not display -- Clicking on "Know your rights" on first launch brings up XML parser error https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/285801 You

[Bug 282875] Re: about:rights does not display

2008-10-20 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Given the lengthy discussions that drove the inclusion of this page, it's critical that it work in Intrepid. ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical Assignee: (unassigned) => Alexander Sack (asac) Status: New => Confirmed Target: None => ubuntu-8.10

[Bug 286915] Re: update-notifier crashed with SIGSEGV

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
** Attachment added: "CoreDump.gz" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18765166/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18765167/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Disassembly.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18765168/Disassembly.txt ** Attachm

Re: [Bug 282875] Re: about:rights does not display

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Localisation would be sensible, could you file a separate bug? That should also be upstreamed as an issue. Mark -- about:rights does not display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/282875 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Martin Pitt wrote: > Aside from the fact that gnome-power-manager is already duplicating > functionality, too (suspend/resume), what is actually so bad about > this? > It's bad form, from a usability perspective, to have lots of ways to achieve the same goal. It's reasonable to lead people from

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It would be poor to end up with multiple menu items on the panel that do the same thing. What do you suggest we can do to shift the standard behavior for folks who are used to the old way of doing it? Mark -- When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu https://bug

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Martin Pitt wrote: > If we > drop them, we need to document two different ways for doing that, once > for people having fusa, and another for people who don't. Since earlier > Ubuntu releases didn't install either the logout or fusa, they don't > have another way, and got used to the system menu. >

Re: [Bug 283095] [NEW] logout needs confirmation

2008-10-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I agree this is a problem, and agree it's low priority, from my perspective it makes sense to solve in Jaunty and then only to consider the value of a backport and SRU. Mark -- logout needs confirmation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283095 You received this bug notification because you are a

Re: [Bug 283278] Re: When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu

2008-11-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
You need to install the user switcher yourself, I'm afraid. Right click on the top panel, choose "Add to Panel" and go from there. I would recommend putting it in the top right. Mark -- When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/28

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-11-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Me too - what a lovely word! But I think it would be better for us to be less mysterious, and just say what this actually means, which is that the person has signed the code of conduct. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this b

Re: [Bug 283278] Dynamic Patch

2008-10-22 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ted, you rock! -- When FUSA applet has shutdown/logout items are duplicated in "System" menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283278 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.co

[Bug 268447] Re: MOTD should not point to https://landscape.canonical.com if you are not a customer

2008-09-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
How intrusive is the link? My understanding is that it's a single link, and is configurable. Would there be better wording to lead folks to the ability to graph that information? -- MOTD should not point to https://landscape.canonical.com if you are not a customer https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs

[Bug 263348] Re: Firefox crashes when attempting to print to file (PDF)

2008-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
This currently works for me, I was able to print this bug page to a PDF without problems. Can you check which version of Firefox you have installed? apt-cache show firefox | grep Version I have 3.0.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 installed. See if you have the same or a different version, and see i

Re: [Bug 212098] Re: "easy" file sharing not notifying about logout/login

2008-10-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Martin Pitt wrote: > As per the Ubuntu Desktop team meeting discussion: When trying to enable > sharing when samba is installed, the user is in sambashare now, but the > process isn't yet, the "Install samba?" dialog should be replaced with a > "You need to restart your session in order to enable s

Re: [Bug 263348] Re: Firefox crashes when attempting to print to file (PDF)

2008-10-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
status invalid -- Firefox crashes when attempting to print to file (PDF) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/263348 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubu

[Bug 263348] Re: Firefox crashes when attempting to print to file (PDF)

2008-10-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Invalid -- Firefox crashes when attempting to print to file (PDF) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/263348 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing

[Bug 269656] Please respect the Ubuntu code of conduct

2008-09-17 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Tim Post wrote: > Sorry folks, I'm done promoting Ubuntu. The lack of response from Ubuntu > tells all, barring a few emails from Mark asking us to STFU. > > Redhat negotiated the first patent deal that is agreeable with GPL3, > what has Ubuntu done other than tweak the work of others (i.e Debian)

Re: [Bug 269656] Please respect the Ubuntu code of conduct

2008-09-17 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Tim Post wrote: > I suggest that the software in the main repository is either free, or it > is not. Free means: > > 0 - The freedom to run the program, for any purpose > 1 - The freedom to study how the program works and adapt it to your > needs > 2 - The freedom to redistribute copies so that you

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-17 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Scott Kitterman wrote: > I just read http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080917045510597 > and I see Canonical/Ubuntu as being characterized as being on the wrong > side of this issue and I have to agree. The one avoidable mistake that > I think was made was to ship the version that require

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
lord_alan wrote: > 2. I would really appreciate it if Ubuntu/Canonical (if Mozilla can't or > wont) could distribute Firefox with the Website Services disabled by > default (we are running Linux after all so their benefit is a somewhat > moot point) so that the need for the 'user agreement' becomes

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Chip Bennett wrote: > Use of Google services (et al) requires the end user's explicit > agreement to use the services, by means of using the browser to access > those services and explicitly accepting the terms of their use (through > account creation/login/use). > Have you tried the Gnome "desk

Re: [Bug 204996] Re: Linux kernel 2.6.24-12 lockup

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Does anyone see a clear kernel panic during these hangs? For example, if it can be reproduced within a minutes, it would be interesting to boot into administrative mode and run a big FTP download or other network stress test, to see if a kernel panic is displayed. If anyone sees it then grab a cam

[Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Mozilla Corp asked that this be added in order for us to continue to call the browser Firefox. Since Firefox is their trademark, which we intend to respect, we have the choice of working with Mozilla to meet their requirements, or switching to an unbranded browser. It's strongly our preference, an

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
The idea of a link to a plain English agreement and FAQ is an excellent one, thanks! That could also describe the abrowser package. -- AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269656 You received this bug notification because you are a m

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Jane Silber wrote: > I don't think Ubuntu/Canonical should *write* a "plain English" version > of someone else's license. Good point :-) -- AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269656 You received this bug notification because you ar

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
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Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Matthew East wrote: > That's very reassuring to know (not that I doubted it). My concern was > more that the issue had not been communicated as well as it could have > been - there was always going to be an outpour of opinion over this > issue, so it is best to confront that head on. > Yes, tha

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-22 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
;> maintain their deal with Dell who might prefer something with Firefox >> since they have the choice between so many distros. >> > > Personally, I choose to assume that Mark Shuttleworth/Canonical have no > ulterior motives with respect to the anti-phishing/malware

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-22 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
William Grant wrote: > I question the wording of the notification bar at the top; the point it > is trying to make is not that it's open, but that there are things which > aren't. Software shouldn't present a button describing restrictions, > with text next to it emphasising that it's open, not men

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-22 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Prateek Karandikar wrote: > "There is no doubt in my mind that the right thing to do is leave the > anti-phishing service on, and leave Firefox in main." > > Do you believe that it is acceptable to have application software in > main that you are not free to modify and distribute? Doesn't this > co

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
pj wrote: > Since Mark is asking for input on the service, I will tell you that the first > thing I do is > turn off antiphishing services, along with every other thing that tends to > track my > surfing. I turn off Javascript and cookies too, for example, so I'm > definitely not the > average

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Prateek Karandikar wrote: >> All of the software in question can be freely modified and distributed. >> >> Mark >> > > If this was so, you could have removed the EULA yourself to begin with, > and much of this discussion would not have occurred. Remco put it well: > "The mere fact that Mozill

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Remco wrote: > Trademark is, like copyright and patents, an "intellectual property", > designed to restrict other people. It's not in the spirit of free > software to be bound by any of these. Remco, the GPL specifically constrains what you can do with code, using copyright law. It's easy to confus

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Remco wrote: > Why do you think Ubuntu is not called "Ubuntu Linux"? The trademark has > been removed from the name. > No, that has nothing to do with it. Our packages use "linux" in the name. If Linus wanted (or the Linux Foundation, I think) then they could ask us to change them, or stop using

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
pj wrote: > Firefox also *offers optional* web site information services, such as > blah blah > > Instead of: > > Firefox also *uses* web site information services > Looks like an improvement to me, I'll pass on the suggestion to Mozilla folks who may not be watching this thread. > On g

Re: [Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Creak wrote: > Maybe I'm wrong, but I understood that they did few Debian-specific > modifications. But as long as they modified Firefox, they can't reuse the > name. > If I'm right until then, why don't they send their modifications to Mozilla? > Mozilla refused? > I wasn't part of that decisio

Re: [Bug 36855] Re: Username/Password entry confusing for inexperienced users

2008-08-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I think GDM supports automatic login, have you looked at the documentation or settings for that? Mark -- Username/Password entry confusing for inexperienced users https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36855 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct

Re: [Bug 69529] Re: Sound intermittently not working on ThinkPad X60

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I'm no longer using that hardware, so can't provide a view on status with Hardy I'm afraid. -- Sound intermittently not working on ThinkPad X60 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/69529 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- u

[Bug 204996] Access to the Intrepid kernel on Hardy

2008-08-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
sergio.callegari wrote: > Testing whether a backported intrepid kernel breaks something > on hardy would probably be a much faster and more useful effort. > It would be very valuable to give Hardy users the ability to test the Intrepid kernel. Ben, is there a PPA where we build the Intrepid k

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