Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-11 Thread shadowh511
i liked vista cos it had a Downloads folder -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-11 Thread sylvain marc
I agree whit you. You've got good ideas & good propositions we have to do someting different of windows, & better ! (sorry for my bad english) 2008/2/10, Álvaro Medina Ballester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > El 10/02/2008, a las 14:45, Jan Niklas Hasse escribió: > > > Anyway, instead of showing me the

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-11 Thread sylvain marc
For me, the desktop folder is important. We must Keep it. I use it for the link to files & folder i used everydays... Why not create a donload folder ? (with a link on the desktop... i like clean desktop) 2008/2/9, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Personally I use the desktop to store three

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-11 Thread sylvain marc
I agree, i only want the minimum in the "notification area". If it was necessary to make an other area called "app selector", why not ? 2008/2/9, Jan Niklas Hasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Keeping open apps in the system tray (with that do you mean notification > > area, top panel right, really?) i

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread shadowh511
I agree, when i used vista, I had 40+ system tray applets, and that took a toll on my laptop. That's why I switched to ubuntu, to not have 3 rows of system tray. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
El 10/02/2008, a las 14:45, Jan Niklas Hasse escribió: > Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you > have any _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea? > > Your idea is that applications are still running when i close their > window? And that they will appear in an

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread Cory K.
Please split this of to a different thread. This has gone WAY off topic. -Cory Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > > Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you > have any _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea? > > > Your idea is that applications are still running wh

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
> > Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you have any > _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea? > Your idea is that applications are still running when i close their window? And that they will appear in an app selector? Well, the idea is not bad, but the tray does t

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread CALGAR CALGAR
xt meeting) > (Greg K Nicholson) >3. Re: next meeting (Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk) >4. Re: next meeting (Greg K Nicholson) >5. Re: next meeting (Dylan McCall) > > > ------ > > Message: 1 > Date: Fr

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
2008/2/9, Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sure I see what you are saying, I am no professional so I dont expect > things I say to be the best available advice, however this happens to be the > way I quite like to use my notification area (I always thought of it as a > "background pr

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Jan sorry for the name problems, I don't speak english very well so I know that some words/names are not the best ones. Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you have any _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea? I mean, music apps go to "tray" in Linux... and what? I

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread George Brooke
Personally I use the desktop to store three types of things (not just as a junk store) 1: Stuff that I'm working on at the moment (maybe a recently used files virtual folder on part of the desktop) 2: Stuff that I frequently need just after startup - links to applications which I only use in cer

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
> > Keeping open apps in the system tray (with that do you mean notification > area, top panel right, really?) is one of the _worst_ desktop metaphors. > Notification area is... notification area! > I call it tray. IMHO calling the tray "notification area" is one of the worst things. > Why mixin

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk
Sure I see what you are saying, I am no professional so I dont expect things I say to be the best available advice, however this happens to be the way I quite like to use my notification area (I always thought of it as a "background programs" area, one of the many disadvantages of having learned th

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
2008/2/9, Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > "It also encourages an idea of keeping processes running even when windows > are closed, which is really the only feature necessary to be as "intutive" > as the OSX dock." > > This is a feature that I know some people find valuable (especial

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk
"It also encourages an idea of keeping processes running even when windows are closed, which is really the only feature necessary to be as "intutive" as the OSX dock." This is a feature that I know some people find valuable (especially for things like media players, downloads and what-not but for

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-09 Thread Piotr Zaryk
Hello, I only wanted to suggest you to look at this: http://architectfantasy.com/?p=1 http://architectfantasy.com/?p=25 I think that you should disscuss it, too. 2008/2/9, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > (Should have changed topic title when we had the chance...) > > A little applet I have

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Dylan McCall
(Should have changed topic title when we had the chance...) A little applet I have been working on (very slowly) is designed to separate the idea of a window and the process that creates it, as the two concepts should be. It is effectively a fancy window switcher, but the magic is with an idea tha

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Thinking about the idea of merging window selector and app launcher... imagine that theoric bar (let's call it uBar), you have firefox, evolution, mplayer and vlc running. Firefox is your most used browser, evolution _is not_ your most used mail client and vlc is your most used video player. If you

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread sylvain marc
it's not in #ubuntu-fr-meeting, not in #ubuntu , not in #ubuntu+1 ...on "Discussion IRC XChat-GNOME" it's too late now... i'v got some ideas, & i give them in this discussion.list 2008/2/8, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > i look for the IRC meeting, but i could'nt find it > > > 2008/2/5, Ken

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread sylvain marc
i look for the IRC meeting, but i could'nt find it 2008/2/5, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi all, > > We are slightly overdue for the next meeting. I suggest this Friday at > 20:00 > UTC. Is this too soon for anyone? Too early/late? Ideas? > > Items for discussion are: > > 1) recent wal

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Hi everybody! I was wondering how could be that app launcher and this is my point of view: First of all, I think that having a KDE/Windows menu is unusable. Why? you need several clicks to open recent apps so if you use an aplication frequently it slows your workflow. Mac OS X bar is a good appro

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk
With regards to the file manager idea I think this would simply be genius! A start would be possibly to port across KDE's fabulous content sensitive "New device found" type window which offers such functionality. Given how good F-Spot is (and how few people realize it exists!) it would be great to

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Andrew Laignel
Sumit Chandra Agarwal wrote: > I do like this idea very much, but I think there would be a lot of > resistance to it as I think people like having their desktop as a junk > store. > Or maybe they're just too used to the idea. > But it gets a thumbs-up from me! Its mildly annoying to me that > Fi

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
I do like this idea very much, but I think there would be a lot of resistance to it as I think people like having their desktop as a junk store. Or maybe they're just too used to the idea. But it gets a thumbs-up from me! Its mildly annoying to me that Firefox/etc don't use the home folder or h

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Dylan McCall
I was recently pondering file managers, too. A discussion a while ago covered how "regular users" should never need to use a file manager. Software like F-Spot and Rhythmbox in Ubuntu, as well as our *fantastic *drag and drop support, makes this a definite possibility. I can grab one of my photogra

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 14:52 +, Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk wrote: > how is it possibly a good idea to 1) Have a programs list that > *SCROLLS*, 2) Have all the programs at the top of the menu (when you > open the menu by clicking something underneath it). ... > most frequently used/last used progra

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk
I do not think removing the desktop as a junk store is a good idea: think about a real desk top (the top of a desk!!) - when you are working on something, it, along with the other bits and pieces are placed over your desk, along with a scattering of tools (pens, pencils etc). The desktop as a tempo

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Kenneth Wimer
As only one person responded we'll postpone the meeting until I know that people will actually attend :-) Someone suggest a time and date and let's figure this out. -- Ken On Tuesday 05 February 2008 12:16:13 Kenneth Wimer wrote: > Hi all, > > We are slightly overdue for the next meeting. I sug

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Travis Watkins
On Feb 8, 2008 5:01 AM, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an idea, and something I have been wanting for a long time... > > Get rid of the 'Desktop' as a file store - remove it from the directory > hierarchy! > > The only reason to store something on the desktop is if you can't be

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Andrew, your ideas are great, but I find one problem in that draft. I think that you will need at least 3 clicks to open an app, and that's not usable. Current gnome's menu is quite obsolete, three clicks needed to open any app, so improving this could be a killer feature. How can we do this? tryi

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Andrew Laignel
Yeah. I was thinking Hardy+1 - Possibly even Hardy+2. I dont think there is even time for a full new theme, let alone a whole new UI for Hardy! Dalton Miyabara wrote: > I would like to use this new desktop interface suggestion ^^ > > But I think that we have no time to make these mods until the

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Dalton Miyabara
I would like to use this new desktop interface suggestion ^^ But I think that we have no time to make these mods until the launch of 8.04... :( Cheers, Dalton > Here's an idea, and something I have been wanting for a long time... > > Get rid of the 'Desktop' as a file store - remove it from

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-08 Thread Andrew Laignel
Here's an idea, and something I have been wanting for a long time... Get rid of the 'Desktop' as a file store - remove it from the directory hierarchy! The only reason to store something on the desktop is if you can't be bothered to put it where it's meant to go. Ideally everything should be

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-07 Thread Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk
I can see some good points there! Possibly a good goal for a release where we try and break from the standard desktop environment layout (much more natural) but at the moment if you shrink down, say, a few open office documents to a size where its not intrusive it is fairly indistinct (an icon woul

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-07 Thread sylvain marc
thanks for your comment 2008/2/7, Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright) > 1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing > 2) None seem to be stable > 3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's op

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-07 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
s/aix2.gif     Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:20:58 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting I agree. I really like a lot of things Apple does to improve usability and the quality of the user experience. The dock is not

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-07 Thread xl cheese
m.org/betriebssystem/_english/screenshot.php?bsgfx=ibm/aix/aix53-scr-08.jpg http://www.jfedor.org/shots/aix2.gif Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:20:58 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting I agree. I really like a lot of things Apple does to improve usability an

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-07 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
I agree. I really like a lot of things Apple does to improve usability and the quality of the user experience. The dock is not one of them. Ubuntu should be like Toyota: pillage the best ideas, parts, and features from its competitors and scrap the rest. Improve on those stolen ideas. Toss in

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-07 Thread Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk
Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright) 1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing 2) None seem to be stable 3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's opinion) 4) The implementations that I have seen do not work as well as apples dock (which

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-06 Thread sylvain marc
Good, i think i could be here (i hope). The recent wallpaper "kuti heron" is a verry good idea... (black for ubuntustudio / brown for ubuntu / bleue for kubuntu); with the 3D effect (and 3D icones) by default when the PC could, with cairo-dock & with ubuntu tweak... & with a theme like murrina-leo

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2007-11-01 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all, Due to schedule changes at the UDS the 15:00 time for the meeting was a problem. We'll push it back until 17:00. Sorry for the error, I promise it will not happen again. -- Ken On Sunday 28 October 2007 15:54:25 Kenneth Wimer wrote: > Hi all, > > As nobobdy has complained, the next mee

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2007-10-28 Thread nothlit
For easy conversion to your location: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=1&year=2007&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 Wiki references updated. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2007-10-28 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all, As nobobdy has complained, the next meeting will take place on Thursday, November 1st at 15:00 UTC. Be there or be square. Topics will include but are not limited to: * Moving forward with the gallery art.ubuntu.com plans * Defining concise design and palette ideas for Hardy

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2007-10-23 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all, As nobody has responded until now, I suggest holding the next meeting on Thursday, November 1st at 15:00 UTC. -- Ken On Monday 15 October 2007 22:33:11 Kenneth Wimer wrote: > Hi all, > > According to the plan the next meeting should occur sometime around the > beginning of the month of

Re: [ubuntu-art] Next Meeting

2006-06-03 Thread Pascal Klein
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 10:11 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-06 at 01:00 +1000, Pascal Klein wrote: > > If I recall correctly we were going to hold in the second or third week > > after the release of Dapper. :) > > So can we agree that we shall meet after Paris? I'd much prefer

Re: [ubuntu-art] Next Meeting

2006-06-03 Thread Troy James Sobotka
On Sun, 2006-04-06 at 01:00 +1000, Pascal Klein wrote: > If I recall correctly we were going to hold in the second or third week > after the release of Dapper. :) So can we agree that we shall meet after Paris? > > We can still meet for a light chat, of course for those interested, but > as alwa

Re: [ubuntu-art] Next Meeting

2006-06-03 Thread Pascal Klein
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 22:37 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry, but the wiki isn't clear about the next meeting : is it Saturday > 3 or Sunday 4 June at 22h UTC ?? If I recall correctly we were going to hold in the second or third week after the release of Dapper. :) We can still me