I agree, i only want the minimum in the "notification area". If it was necessary to make an other area called "app selector", why not ?
2008/2/9, Jan Niklas Hasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Keeping open apps in the system tray (with that do you mean notification > > area, top panel right, really?) is one of the _worst_ desktop metaphors. > > Notification area is... notification area! > > > > I call it tray. IMHO calling the tray "notification area" is one of the > worst things. > > > > Why mixing open apps with notification icons like clock, wifi, > > volume...? > > > > Clock? Volume? I got these as gnome applets. And wifi: Do you think the > "NetworkManager" is a notification? It isn't. But why is it in the > "notification" area? > I got 4 icons in my tray: Skype, Pidgin, Rhythmbox, Glipper (and > NetworkManager). There isn't a single notification. > > > > I think that this ideas comes from a very _very_ strong Windows culture. > > > > So what? > > > > And Ubuntu is not an should not be a clon of Windows XP (OS X clon > > either). > > > > Right, but do you also want to remove windows at all, just because osx and > xp use them? > > > > If Windows or Mac does something well, we can discuss it and if it's a > > good idea we can implement it. But we don't have to copy something because > > new users would feel familiar with Ubuntu desktop, that would be a big > > mistake. > > > > AFAIK there's no option to close programs to tray, except the application > supports this. So there's nothing to be copied from windows. > > > > Taking back the discussion. 6 or 7 years ago I was a convinced Windows > > 98/XP user. I loved Winamp, I loved Winamp icon in the tray bar. Nowadays, a > > lot of Windows applications put their icon in the system tray. > > > > A lot of Linux applications, too. (Rhythmbox, banshee, amarok, pidgin, > skype, networkmanager, deluge, ...) > > > > Nowadays I've studied computer science and gui design in my career. One > > of the big mistakes of user interfaces is mixing things that are completely > > not related. Notification is not related with open apps. > > > > Well, maybe we should call it tray or Status Area? > > > > What Dylan McCall was trying to say is that in OS X there is a tree > > structure in the gui design. Root node is the application and then each > > application has several childrens (windows) and each window can have another > > children (floating window). In my opinion this is the correct way to > > represent open apps. Why? because the app "pipe" is: > > > > Processes -> Windows -> Secondary windows > > > > > > This pipe design delivers a good design that solves several gui > > problems. First problem solved is that window selector like Windows bar is > > no longer needed. Instead, this model has app selector, wich is very useful > > if some apps have several windows (think in The Gimp at this moment). Second > > problem is that having app selector instead window selector is better if you > > have a lot (6 or more) windows opened. It's even easier to distinguish what > > do you want to select because you have to look directly for the application, > > not to all the windows, and you have less items to look for so you can > > search it quickly. Third problem solved is that now app selector and app > > launcher can be merged so many space can be saved. > > > App selector? Sounds like some kind of a tray, only better. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > >
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