[Twisted-Python] Reminder: Twisted 10.1 scheduled for early June

2010-05-26 Thread Jonathan Lange
Hello all, I and my lovely assistant Glyph intend to cut a release of Twisted 10.1 on the 5th and 6th of June. That's in eleven days. If you would like to help us do that, please fix one of: http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/3998 http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/4345 http://twistedma

Re: [Twisted-Python] major changes, release engineering, and learning cost

2010-05-26 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On May 23, 2010, at 10:35 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > On 23 May, 12:26 am, gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: >> So: thoughts? Does this make sense as a policy change for facilitating >> the development of major new features or consolidating behavior- >> changing fixes into easier-to-un

Re: [Twisted-Python] major changes, release engineering, and learning cost

2010-05-26 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On May 24, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Jonathan Lange wrote: > FWIW, we've been doing this on Launchpad for some years and it works out well. Good to know. > As a rule, we don't have the final "sanity check" review, since we > have robot minions that check for conflicts and that the tests pass. This is

Re: [Twisted-Python] major changes, release engineering, and learning cost

2010-05-26 Thread Laurens Van Houtven
I've said something in #twisted but I hadn't read this reply yet, so for sake of saving this for posterity, I agree with jml here. I think we're mostly being bitten because of a lack of software tools, in the form of svn and trac. Disclaimer: I really dislike svn since I never figured out how Combi

Re: [Twisted-Python] major changes, release engineering, and learning cost

2010-05-26 Thread Konrads Smelkovs
It would already be a big step forward if the naming convention could be addressed. Unfortunately the web vs. web2 thing really puts code archeologists in a confusion if the incremental numbered module policy is applied, because it appears that web2 > web but it is actually not. code archeology cou

Re: [Twisted-Python] major changes, release engineering, and learning cost

2010-05-26 Thread exarkun
On 08:44 am, gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > >On May 24, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Jonathan Lange wrote: >>Also, +1 on the documentation. > >I think we should continue this discussion after somebody has done at >least one branch like this. Well, we did #886, right? Jean-Paul __

Re: [Twisted-Python] major changes, release engineering, and learning cost

2010-05-26 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On May 26, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > Major stuff could be a blueprint on Launchpad. Blueprints match a branch for > the "big feature". So, we have the Twisted blueprint > quantum-transmogrification and a branch > lp:~lvh/twisted/quantum-transmogrification. So, while I can

Re: [Twisted-Python] major changes, release engineering, and learning cost

2010-05-26 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On May 26, 2010, at 9:53 AM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > On 08:44 am, gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: >> >> On May 24, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Jonathan Lange wrote: >>> Also, +1 on the documentation. >> >> I think we should continue this discussion after somebody has done at >> least one branch