Re: [TV orNotTV] Crazy Old Indiana Man

Yikes! Sorry, I thought I had also pasted in the link - it was one of the celebrity rags, forget which now. Thanks On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Bob Jersey wrote: > > PGage: >> >> As the article notes, we have seen this look in progress with recent >> photographs, but

Re: [TV orNotTV] JMS "Red Mars" series greenlighted on Spike

ke-puts-scripted-series-red-878457 > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:44 AM, PGage wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Kevin M. >> wrote: >> >>> Based on the Red Mars trilogy of novels about the colonization of the >>> red planet. It is an antholo

Re: [TV orNotTV] JMS "Red Mars" series greenlighted on Spike

for a producer credit only > > So now it is a series with no author or anybody at the helm... thinking it > ain't gonna make it > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, David Risner wrote: > >> That was my thought too. Maybe he doesn't have the time for it. >> &

Re: [TV orNotTV] Donald = popular effigy for Mexicans' ritual

If it makes anyone feel better, they also burned Obama's effigy... http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/27/politics/mexico-easter-burning-effigies-trump-obama/ On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Bob Jersey wrote: > > People unpop with the nation's populace get their likenesses burned in the > name of Juda

Re: [TV orNotTV] less-than-quickie review: Jeffrey Toobin vs. OJ Simpson...

required. Or, if they simply had not given a specific time line at all, rather than one that was full of holes and self-contradictions and simply could not possibly be correct. On Sunday, 14 February 2016, PGage wrote: > I do want to get into the entertainment and creative issues a bit. I will >

Re: [TV orNotTV] less-than-quickie review: Jeffrey Toobin vs. OJ Simpson...

the best way) like that in such a > high-powered cast (and, really, there were no weak links with the possible > exception of Gooding) was dazzling. Vance, Paulson, Brown, and Lane were > exceptional, but Travolta was right up there with them. > > Dave Sikula > > On Wednesday, A

Re: [TV orNotTV] re: The Artist Sometimes Known as Prince

I saw him live a couple of time - I doubt there are more than two other artists who consistently gave a better live performance (and I don't know who those might be). I don't think his eccentricities were really about ego - he was an idiosyncratic, very sensitive, very artistic person, who was mos

Re: [TV orNotTV] re: The Artist Sometimes Known as Prince

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Doug Eastick wrote: > I saw Prince only once, at Coachella 2008. He was amazing. I had no > idea how talented he was. > I have a friend who is a huge hockey fan and keeps trying to get me into it. Whenever I tell him how often I have tried and failed, he alwa

Re: [TV orNotTV] re: The Artist Sometimes Known as Prince

FOX hardly mentioned it? If only there > was a way they could pin it on Obama or Clinton. . . > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:18 PM, PGage wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Doug Eastick wrote: > >> > >> I saw Prince only once, at Coachella 2008. He was amazi

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Artist Sometimes Known as Prince

To be fair, while the After-Party performance may not have been Prince at his best, what makes it cool is the context, and people like Fallon, Rock and, at one point, JZ hopping up on stage to sing back-ups. It is amazingly cool in the way it might be if Prince suddenly appeared on stage to jam at

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Artist Sometimes Known as Prince

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Doug Eastick wrote: > I stuck around but there was nothing but a stage closing "good night". I > hate staying up until 1 am for nothing. I am going to disagree with this a little, and encourage anyone who recorded it to FF to the end, even if they can't take mu

Re: [TV orNotTV] Rest in Peace, Ed Dravecky

I am just seeing this after getting home later from work - Crap! I feel like I have been kicked in the stomach. Joe I hope you or someone else can pass on to his family what a valued member of this community Ed was for many years, and that we will miss him terribly. On Monday, 25 April 2016, Joe

Re: [TV orNotTV] Mike Tirico to NBC

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Joe Hass wrote: > Tirico will stay at The Mouse until his contract is up this summer. He'll > work the NBC/NFLN Thursday Night games, which opens up the MNF PxP spot > (which has had exactly four voices in the past 45 years: Keith Jackson, > Frank Gifford, Al Mich

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Artist Sometimes Known as Prince

Again, I don't think that is actually a contrast. Prince was idiosyncratic (one might say neurotic, or odd, or weird). By all accounts he was both painfully shy and very interested in and kind to people. His unusual demands mostly had to do with protecting his personal space and comfortable routine

Re: [TV orNotTV] BriWi retracts an old tale of war helicopter

hemselves. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:47 AM, PGage wrote: > I guarantee you that there is at least one psychology professor at every > college and university in the college doing exactly what I am doing today, > which is grabbing video and images and text about this event to integrate &

Re: [TV orNotTV] More upheaval at ESPN for NFL

There are more problems than Skipper wants to admit - but a lot of these changes IMO are for the good. Ditka was way past his expiration date, Ray-Ray never really made a mark, Dilfer was a better QB than analyst (not a compliment ), Carter is the kind of guy who gets more expensive every 3 years b

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC Fall Schedule Annotated

We have been hearing for a while now that NBC is "Millionairing" The Voice and will pay the price when the bottom drops out. Last I looked Voice's ratings had faded, but were still pretty strong, even though it is on twice a week Fall and Spring. And it does seem to have done pretty well as a launc

Re: [TV orNotTV] Weather goil made to wear sweater

The video was pushed on my FB feed today, and in it, it sounds like the guy is saying that they have been getting email complaints (though maybe the complaints were about the chromakey issues and not the boobage). I don't disagree with Melissa about the appropriateness of her costume for giving th

[TV orNotTV] Amazing Race #28

I don't know if anyone here is still close-watching TAR - in case they are I have a question. It seemed like there was something different about the way they edited and presented the race this season. I know the racers were internet stars (I did not know any of them, or much like most of them), but

[TV orNotTV] Re: DVR-Worthy Fall 2015 TV?

ows I watched were all B-level at best, by network standards. Not a very good season for me. P.S. Oh wait, I did see a couple of episodes of that horrid, horrid NPH show - still paying off the psychotherapy for the PTSD from that one... On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:23 AM, PGage wrote: > *

Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL all-star contest quitting Hawai'i?

I count the day I became a man as the day in my 13th year that I decided not to watch the Pro Bowl anymore. Professional football just does not lend itself to an all-star game. Better to name real all-star teams and have them participate in skills challenges and maybe a Madden tournament or somethi

Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Thinking of Tom Heald

I also want to thank Celina for this memory; this list will always have a special place in our hearts for Tom Heald, and some of the reasons include the qualities Celina celebrates here. Tom was nice enough to send me private emails on occasion, following up on something I might have said on the li

Re: [TV orNotTV] deception

Well, I think we know that Dave really wanted it to go out as close to live to tape as possible, but my impression from the beginning has been that Colbert is much more open to inserting taped bits that superficially read as live to tape. Of course Dave himself would sometimes do a bit of that, but

Re: [TV orNotTV] Walt Whitman won't watch Colbert

All of this seems overblown to me. Colbert is second in the late night ratings to the Tonight Show, just like Dave was. He has a sharper and more narrow appeal than Leno/Fallon, just like Dave did. He makes a broadcast television show, not a series of clips for the internet - again like Dave. He is

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Walt Whitman won't watch Colbert

I agree with all of this (what JW has below) - but still find that I enjoy an hour with Colbert more than with any other late night host - that now includes the two CC shows, though I pretty much enjoy them too. On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 4:35 AM, JW wrote: > I'm painfully aware that I'm no longer

Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Raising funds for my nephew

As far as I am concerned, no apology needed. Will do what I can - sadly not much. Good wishes.. On Friday, June 10, 2016, Jay Lewis wrote: > (Sorry-not-sorry for posting this request for help.) > > tl;dr My 5YO nephew needs a wheelchair accessible van and we're trying to > raise money to buy him

Re: [TV orNotTV] Gawker exploring options, including sale

In terms of 1st Amendment interests I think Kevin is wrong, and Mark is right; Freedom of the Press is exactly as healthy as the well being of obnoxious and embarrassing publishers. But Kevin's point goes to the heart of the underlying matter: Does freedom of the press cover publishing somebody's p

Re: [TV orNotTV] Gawker exploring options, including sale

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 1:46 PM, PGage wrote: > >> In terms of 1st Amendment interests I think Kevin is wrong, and Mark is >> right; Freedom of the Press is exactly as healthy as the well being of >> obnoxious and embarrassing publishers. But Kevin's point goes to the h

Re: [TV orNotTV] Gawker exploring options, including sale

is out for revenge, and if he didn't find it through > Bollea's case, he'd likely have tried it again elsewhere. Bullying by > lawsuit is troublesome, whether or not the bullies would be violating the > 1st Amendment. > > David > > -- &

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Voice' Finalist Killed After Performance at 22

Tragic story - I remember her from the show. I don't know about this particular video, but I think we have been told she had a career as a YouTube cover singer even before The Voice... On Saturday, 11 June 2016, Mark Jeffries wrote: > > > There's a lot of videos of Ms. Grimmie out there on YouTu

Re: [TV orNotTV] Today's Winner In Beating The System...

Thanks so much for posting this - I am in Paris without easy access to CSPAN. That shot of John Lewis sitting on the floor actually brought tears to my eyes. The screen says the video is from Facebook - is that Periscope (which is how I watched Game 6 and 7 from the NBA Finals) or something else?

Re: [TV orNotTV] Today's Winner In Beating The System...

idebar: your tweet of the day (from Full Frontal w/ Sam Bee) > "@ScottPetersSD <https://twitter.com/ScottPetersSD> We love what you’re > doing. Could you please hand the phone to someone under thirty?" > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:38 PM PGage > wrote: > >> Tha

Re: [TV orNotTV] Today's Winner In Beating The System...

I so am enjoying it - this is my second trip and I don't think I feel as fully relaxed anywhere else. But I got home last night and heard about the sit-in and was wishing I could see some of it, but it was not running on any of the channels I checked on (there are a lot over here, n several languag

Re: [TV orNotTV] Clickbait on Colbert, But...

These kinds of articles are meaningless to me if they don't compare Colbert's ratings with Dave's at the same week of the year. Colbert is not really competing with Fallon, he is competing with Kimmel. If over an entire season Colbert begins to fall regularly and significantly to third place, that

Re: [TV orNotTV] Man Who Was At War With Media Hired By Same

I think the journalistic problem here (if that term still applies in any way to CNN) is that he almost certainly signed a draconian non-disparagement clause before he went to work for Trump, so he actually can't say anything negative about Trump, and even more obviously than what usually passes for

Re: [TV orNotTV] Man Who Was At War With Media Hired By Same

e news that hit the next day > that Trump had $1.2 million in the bank and had not been raising > money. > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:38 PM, PGage > > wrote: > > I think the journalistic problem here (if that term still applies in any > way > > to CNN) is that he

Re: [TV orNotTV] Clickbait on Colbert, But...

Yes, but... Dave brought as much of his stuff from NBC as he could, Evan as he was re-making himself for 11:35 and CBS. I understand that Stephen was tired of being limited to the cage of the Colbert character, but I think he could still transcend it while using components of it selectively. And n

Re: [TV orNotTV] Here's your Rio Olympics broadcaster lineup

I will get an early start on bitching about how much I detest Trautwig on Gymnastics and Collins on basketball. My questions, and this is mostly because I have not been paying attention to pre-Olympics and other sports as I usually do due to some personal distractions: 1. Why is NBC using so much

Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Life around here...

Rest up Bob... On Friday, July 8, 2016, Bob Jersey wrote: > > ...is starting to impact even a few hours of netting a day for me. > > It's easy to blame dad, tho the hot weather (expected to last to at least > Saturday) is a factor too. > > Better to rest whenever possible. > > I'll still check p

Re: [TV orNotTV] Takei hissed with "Beyond" director, writer

I agree with Pegg and the others here. But Takei's opposition is interesting. There is of course a long history of trying to get ST out in front on LGBT issues - as late as Next Gen promises (or at least indications) were made , and then backed away from. "The Outcast" was about as close as they g

Re: [TV orNotTV] Presidential town hall to air on some of the Mouse's houses

This is actually a good idea, and good use of the ABC/ESPN synergy. Hill is thoughtful and outspoken, and is no lightweight in this kind of discussion, and ESPN is a comfortable media space for lots of young black men. It may be nothing, or may be worse than nothing, but given the situation I think

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Who handles a special report if the main anchor isn't there?

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:41 AM, daniel anderson < > danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Why though, do people bombard the network switchboard though if they dare >> to interrupt the soap operas? >> > > When is the last time this happene

[TV orNotTV] RNC Provides Some Good TV

The last gasps of the Stop Trump Movement produced some theatrics at the Republican National Convention this afternoon. There is no real danger of Trump's nomination being stopped, but it did look like the Stop Trump movement had met the threshold to hold a roll call vote to change the convention r

Re: [TV orNotTV] Helen Thomas is annoying presidents in the great beyond now

After three years Helen Thomas is still dead... On Thursday, July 21, 2016, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Am I missing the point of a three-year-old obit? > > -- Dave Sikula > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 11:50:32 PM UTC-7, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: >> >> I s

Re: [TV orNotTV] Helen Thomas is annoying presidents in the great beyond now

I get caught with this occasionally too. Outlets like Daily Kos email a list of their "greatest hits" with old news stories and tidbits without clearly highlighting the date.People post things to FB all the time that are months and years old as if they just happened. It is very easy to respond unde

Re: [TV orNotTV] He IS Montel Williams. He IS Montel Williams.

Just liking this... On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Kevin M. wrote: > Bill O'Reilly's people lied to Montel Williams. You shouldn't lie to him > like he's Montel Williams. > > https://www.facebook.com/MontelWilliamsFan/videos/10154319458631873/ > > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > -- > -- > TV or Not TV ...

Re: [TV orNotTV] He IS Montel Williams. He IS Montel Williams.

he > was Montel Williams, and he was lied to. QED. > > https://youtu.be/BZ4mhaJIr7A > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:20 PM, PGage > wrote: > >> Just liking this... >> >> >> On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Kevin M. > > wrote: >> >>> Bill O'

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Stewart on Late Show at the desk

This is by far the best version of the "Colbert is in trouble" article that I have seen. It lays out some of the real problems (finding his voice, the overwork, and the still not quite right revisions after the entrance of a show runner) without the overheated hysterics (the show is profitable for

Re: [TV orNotTV] John Hinckley to be released from psych facility

I worked for several years as a forensic psychologist at a state hospital, and had to write numerous reports and letters evaluating murderers and rapists who had been found not guilty by reason of insanity for the potential for future violence. The first thing to know is that mental health professi

[TV orNotTV] Convention Sound Mixing

I have been thinking about the sound we get on the television coverage of conventions, both for the RNC and DNC. I think maybe somebody here (or was it somewhere else?) mentioned the idea of "sweetening" the sound at things like this, with added applause or laughter. I would not approve of that of

Re: [TV orNotTV] I tried watching the Olympics on NBC today

To give the devil its due, that is a 6 hour race; I time-shifted it (and all of my Olympics viewing) a bit, so I am not sure where the race was when you sampled the coverage, but it did get better towards the end, and I think we got a pretty good feel for what turned out to be a really interesting

Re: [TV orNotTV] I tried watching the Olympics on NBC today

A couple of adds on the day 1 coverage: I guess the prime time is actually live on the east coast (we still get treated like Donald Trump's pool boy out here on the west coast with a tape delay)? What made me notice that was when they broke into the Brokaw taped drone piece (I don't mean that it w

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: I tried watching the Olympics on NBC today

I resist the argument that ABC was better with the Olympics than NBC, but only when evaluated in context. I think ABC was more Ameri-centric in its coverage, and they invented the sappy, "Up Close and Personal" pieces that NBC has developed into a full-on fetish. But even Roone Arledge had not ful

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: I tried watching the Olympics on NBC today

s ABC did a lot more coverage(only pausing for the > evening news if I remember correctly. > > On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 3:48:57 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote: >> >> I resist the argument that ABC was better with the Olympics than NBC, but >> only when evaluated in context. I thi

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: I tried watching the Olympics on NBC today

Sorry - all stats in previous post from relevant wikipedia pages... On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 4:20 PM, PGage wrote: > The simple claim made by you (Daniel) that "ABC did a lot more coverage" > than NBC is false on its face. ABC last broadcast the Summer Games in 1984, > airing

Re: [TV orNotTV] I tried watching the Olympics on NBC today

I agree 100% that the most egregious failure in NBC's Olympic coverage the last 8 or 12 years has been their stubborn refusal to show the premier events in real time on one of their cable outlets. We understand they have to make back those outrageous rights fees, but they have never made a convinci

[TV orNotTV] #FireTrautwig

And here I thought I was the only one who hated Al Trautwig... http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/08/simone-biles-al-trautwig-parents-twitter/88397510/ I pay almost no attention to gymnastics between Olympics, and even I know the story of Simone Biles, the most accompl

Re: [TV orNotTV] #FireTrautwig

2:44 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:03 PM, PGage wrote: > >> And here I thought I was the only one who hated Al Trautwig... >> >> http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/ >> 08/08/simone-biles-al-trautwig-parents-twitter/88397

Re: [TV orNotTV] Melissa P sent you a video: "Hillary Clinton Trump Ad Featuring David Letterman"

Nor in California, but I believe this is a national ad buy on the Olympics. Very effective, On Monday, 8 August 2016, Melissa P wrote: > > > BTW presidential campaign ads are never run in the Washington, DC market. > > > > Melissa P >

[TV orNotTV] NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:35 PM, David Lynch wrote: > One interesting thing from tonight: the medal round for men's team > gymnastics, normally a marquee event, didn't start airing until well after > 11:00 ET and was partly pushed to late night. Of course, it was kind of > obvious from the way the

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

each apparatus, so you are comparing apples to apples. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:04 AM, PGage wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:35 PM, David Lynch wrote: > >> One interesting thing from tonight: the medal round for men's team >> gymnastics, normally a marquee event, didn&#x

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Joe Hass wrote: > The immediate thought that came to my mind as I read this: "What would ABC > have done had the Miracle On Ice been a 10-3 Russian blowout (which was the > score of the exhibition game played less than two weeks earlier)?" > I would not mind that

Re: [TV orNotTV] Killam and Pharoah Not Ready for SNL

I will register an argument for the other side; Uodate is regularly the strongest part of SNL under Jost & Che, On Tuesday, 9 August 2016, Jon Delfin wrote: > Strong has been very clear that she doesn't want the Update gig. No > argument here with your assessment of Jost and Che. > > On Tue, Aug

Re: [TV orNotTV] Killam and Pharoah Not Ready for SNL

True... On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 4:51 AM, wrote: > "I'll take 'Left-handed Compliments' for $600, Alex." > > Doug Fields > Tampa, FL > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:41 AM -0400,

Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN's John Saunders dies

Great guy, and one of the last, quickly diminishing reasons to watch ESPN. Condolences to family and friends. On Wednesday, 10 August 2016, Mark Jeffries wrote: > And as she did when Stuart Scott died, Hannah Storm had to break the news > to ESPN viewers this morning on "SportsCenter": > > http:

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

So after their shameful approach to broadcasting the men's team gymnastics events, NBC took a higher road for the men's all around. Even though it was clear early that no American would be threatening for a medal, they stayed with the entire event in prime time, and did a pretty good job of telling

Re: [TV orNotTV] New Trek will be a view from the proverbial gallery

I would like the idea of a non-Captain POV more if they were doing the anthology approach, and this was one of those. It is going to be hard to resist centering the show on the Captain (if whoever has that role is at all compelling) as the series progresses (see "The West Wing") On Thu, Aug 11, 20

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

The reports from Adam on UK and Chris on Canadian Olympic coverage are UCB appreciated. I think the key in comparing this to US coverage is distinguishing between NBC's prime time coverage and most other coverage on NBC outside of prime time and on cable channels. NBC prime time relies on either t

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

-speaking commentary and that's what the online event-feeds use? > > and I'm guessing that's what TSN4 or TSN5 fed me on TV that day? > > Wondering if PGage and others have similar observations on the NBC online > feed, or Adam on the BBC ifeed. > > > > On Fri

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Unforgivable Sin [Was: I tried watching the Olympics...]

Daniel... Right, but these are some of the best known announcers covering events for NBC. I believe, even though Doug mentions "the NBC online feed", he is referencing the online coverage that NBC is linking to on its web page (and, at least via Comcast, on its "On Demand" menu), which is for the m

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been canceled

I am disappointed to hear this, but I guess not surprised. I thought Wilmore's show has progressively improved since its debut and had hit its stride. Even so, while I DVR the hour of TDS/TNS, I probably only watch TNS half the time. But frankly, a lot of that is because I often do not really enjoy

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been canceled

st 15, 2016 12:55 PM > *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been > canceled > > Another vote for "disappointed." Lately, thanks to the DVR, I've been > watching TNS before TDS. Still, looking at the bright side, it's more time >

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been canceled

e > guy-gets-hit-in-the-nuts/viral video sort of programing choices lately. > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:11 AM, PGage > wrote: > >> So, Dave's Vulture note muddles the CC explanation (that they had to >> cancel the show now because the contracts were up) a bit. What V

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been canceled

I was happy to see them doing one last "Pardon the Integration", which is one of the best illustrations of how this show found itself over time, rather than over-relying on the panel. That kind of segment is a funny bit, as opposed to talking heads, but it is not just silly, it still raises real is

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been canceled

Show" lead-in. > Comedy Central announced its cancellation earlier this week. > Stewart told Wilmore Thursday that he "gave voice to underserved > voices in the media arena." > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Steve Timko wrote: > > Dean Obedallah calls for Netflix

Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been canceled

rvations on things are quite on. Ya just gotta get used to the > messenger. > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:32 PM, PGage > wrote: > >> I did recognize who the wise man was; I wondered if Wilmore did. Also, I >> really liked Stewart's benediction for Wilmore, whi

Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Mr Carlin

Also a huge fan of Riley's. Here is the Obit in THR: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jack-riley-dead-bob-newhart-921004 On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > Jack Riley appeared in a series of sketches on the Tonight Show when I was > a Page. He had a great dead-pan stare a

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'McLaughlin Group' Ends This Weekend

I was a regular viewer through the last third of the Clinton Administration, and I am sorry McLaughlin has died. That said, the show was a parody of itself before SNL got its hands on it, and has been a relic mostly for washed up political hacks for almost all of the 21st century. On Fri, Aug 19,

Re: [TV orNotTV] UNI Takes Over Gawker Media

The problem though is we can't really only protect popular or respectable journalism (hence the first amendment cases defending the National Enquirer). On Friday, August 19, 2016, David Risner wrote: > I disagree that what Gawker practiced was journalism. > > Outing people, acquiring and distrib

Re: [TV orNotTV] UNI Takes Over Gawker Media

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Melissa P wrote: > I dunno. It seems like a "checks and balances" event to me: Act REALLY > irresponsibly, and someone's gonna come after you. And, win. > Except - no. It is not only a responsible press that gets protected, In fact, it is the irresponsible pre

Re: [TV orNotTV] UNI Takes Over Gawker Media

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > > > It turns out that posting somebody's sex tape without their permission > doesn't qualify as journalism, for which Gawker was taken to court and > punished. The case was bankrolled by a guy they outed, which also doesn't > qualify as journalism

Re: [TV orNotTV] UNI Takes Over Gawker Media

20, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 20, 2016, PGage wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Kevin M. >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It turns out that posting somebody's sex tape without their permission >>

Re: [TV orNotTV] Today moves finally sorted out

This space cleared up for me a couple of weeks ago that Lauer and Guthrie are still the hosts of Today, but, she was not in Rio because she is pregnant and had Zikka worries. But it looks like Morales is no longer reading the news (I have seen her called the "West Coast Anchor" for Today (whatever

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'L&O''s First DA Dies at 94

Characteristically, Wolfe finds a way to turn his comments in the obit into a plug for L&O reruns. Hill was great in both TV roles. The lore is that he left MI because he was orthodox and would not work late on Fridays. Wikipedia confirms this with details, giving me more confidence in what was ac

Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick Amazon pilot reviews: "TheTick," "Jean-Claude Van Johnson," "I Love Dick"

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Steve Timko wrote: > (SNIP) Many of them are great. Like when he is in disguise and he has to > subdue someone who thinks “Time Cop” > (starring Van Damme) is better than “Looper” with Bruce Willis. (SNIP) For the record, "Time Cop" is absolutely better than "L

[TV orNotTV] Today Show Staff Reportedly Embarrased By Al For Telling Too Much Truth

WTF? I actually saw this segment live - after days of NBC soft-peddling Lochte's dishonesty (I thought Lauer's primetime report of a conversation he had with the swimmer was a disgrace) Al finally had enough when Billy Bush emphasized the over-exaggerating line again. I was impressed that such a p

Re: [TV orNotTV] Feds investigating hack of Leslie Jones' website

The internet is such a vast wasteland of racism and misogyny that I stopped taking it seriously a long time ago, and had assumed I had become immune to it. For some reason, the attacks on Jones this summer, culminating in this last outrage, is so mean-spirited and dehumanizing that it has really go

Re: [TV orNotTV] Wendell Pierce

"I'm a murder police. I work murders. I don't fuck with no make-believe. I don't jerk shit around. I catch a murder, and I work it." Although I will admit that I did not think of Bunk when I saw him on Grease. And I don't watch any Odd Couples without either Walter Matthau or Jack Klugman... On T

Re: [TV orNotTV] Feds investigating hack of Leslie Jones' website

True enough; my despair is less about the Internet than about the human race, who are the primary users of the Internet. Humans are horrible off the Internet as well of course, but it is easier to avoid most of the worst of them in the flesh. On Thursday, August 25, 2016, JW wrote: > > The inter

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Wilmore sits with Colbert next week

My heart wants to defend the show from your cynical barb, but my head agrees with it. I always thought that, even in character, Colbert was the best talk show interviewer I had ever seen, but he often seems uncomfortable and stilted on Late Show, and too often the comedy bits seem forced and contri

[TV orNotTV] Coulter Burned at Lowe Roast

I have ambivalent, but some warm, memories of watching the old Dean Martin roasts as a kid; I have had much more consistently unpleasant memories of the CC Roasts, and have not bothered with most of the recent ones. For me the idea works best when it at least seems like the people doing the jokes,

Re: [TV orNotTV] Coulter Burned at Lowe Roast

> get attention. So it's not that big of leap to go on a roast to get > attention. > The roasts can be hit or miss. A lot of it depends on the guests. > There may be one or two good guests and the rest of the panel is > awful. > Talke a look at Amy Schumer's appearances

Re: [TV orNotTV] Prez debate mods announced

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Bob Jersey wrote: > > Have not seen about veep debates. Is the Libertarian candidate (ex-NM gov > Gary Johnson, who is advertising heavily on Premiere/iHeart stations) in > enough of a poll standing to get in? > Politico had a pretty good article on this yesterday

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Wilmore sits with Colbert next week

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:27 AM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > As for the Wilmore interview, they talk a lot about their WHCD experiences > as well as The Nightly Show. I enjoyed it quite a bit. > Very much liked everything he did with Wilmore. I often

Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP the little Italian Salami-brain

So great in HLOTS, but Kevin if you have been avoiding Miller's Crossing for some reason, I encourage you to reconsider. The Big Lebowski is more a matter of taste I suppose (I enjoy it, but think it is overrated). I did not realize that Polito was a voice on the Last Airbender (a shared favorite o

Re: [TV orNotTV] Wilmore sits with Colbert next week

It clearly was not taped Friday - lots of Lettermanesqye comments about what a great Friday crowd, no taco truck jokes, but did reference Trump's trip to Mexico. Stephen days at one point that the debates are upcoming and they talk about Trump's prep, but nothing about who will moderate, presumably

Re: [TV orNotTV] Wilmore sits with Colbert next week

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/09/02/late-night-ratings-august-22-26-2016-jimmy-kimmel-live-scores-low/ In case the formatting from the chart below from tvbythenumbers is not preserved, I will briefly summarize: The relative rankings of the three network broadcast 11:35 shows is preserved

[TV orNotTV] Late Night Ratings and Costs [Was: Wilmore sits with Colbert...]

mean they were losing $55M a year (getting paid $30M, paying $85M a year). Maybe WWP also got a fraction of the ad revenue? Or do they make money in some other way from owning the show? Or, as I seem to vaguely remember, did they share the production costs in some way with CBS? *From:* PGag

Re: [TV orNotTV] Late Night Ratings and Costs [Was: Wilmore sits with Colbert...]

aning that, all else being equal, in the transition to Colbert, CBS added $15-$20M per year to their bottom line. On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 1:57 PM, PGage wrote: > >> >> This does not sound out of line for the annual cost of p

Re: [TV orNotTV] Wilmore sits with Colbert next week

I am not aware of reports that anyone other than Colbert was a first choice to replace Dave - Dave himself has seemed less than enthusiastic about Colbert, but what have you heard about CBS specifically? I am quite sure that your description of the ratings for the Katie-Cast are incorrect. It is h

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